Yearly Update on New Village Leadership Academy - derail

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by sosad, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. I'm not arguing the validity of study tech. I already stated my opinion earlier on the subject. I'm stating NVLA did NOT use study tech after 2010, and it's a lie for you to say otherwise.
  2. Anonymous Member

  3. I'm not saying you have to be all "kumbaya" about it, just stop perpetuating the lie here on WWP, and stop calling it a scn front group.

    I spoke my peace above. I've challenged anyone here to contradict what I one can.

    Here is someone else who actually went there and knows as well:
  4. ThatsFunny
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  5. OTeleventy Member

    What do you fucking want to prove to you that it was a clam front? And why do you care now? Even the article you linked to admitted that they couldn't get past the scientology connection, thus, they closed. Do you know WHY THEY couldn't get past it? That's right, because the cult lies. No one believed them. The cult never reveals its ulterior motive, which, frankly, is the same in every single instance: indoc. Obviously, they've succeeded with you.

    Oh. And you've said your "piece," not "peace."
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  6. RightOn Member

    FUNNY how you perceive my opinion as a lie
    and you perceive your opinion as the truth
    If after 2010, if children were sitting cross legged on the floor across from each other ( there is a NVLA pic in the wayback showing this) and staring at each other and doing a "routine", if they did clay demos, and if they looked up any words they didn't understand, they were doing study tech.
    So are you saying that NONE of the kids did any of these things after 2010?
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  7. RightOn Member

    As someone said earlier.
    You have been duped.
    Maybe even the Smiths didn't realize it.
    Like I said it is a very SLOW process.
    That is how brainwashing works.
    If people realized they were being brainwashed, then it wouldn't work, would it?
    Make sense?
    Don't beat yourself up for being duped or putting your kid in a school that taught the tech.
    Just keep them out of study tech and move on.
    Live and learn. Just thank your lucky stars that they are out.
    I am done.
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  9. Anonymous Member

    All they say is that Scientology wasn't mentioned. Study Tech tries to pretend it isn't Scientology so that is par for the course.

    You haven't provided any evidence so there isn't really anything to contradict.

    Also, would you recognize Study Tech if it were in use? If so, how would do you do so?
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  10. Why are these posts considered derails by the mod that put them here?
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  11. Anonymous Member

    Because we are derailing the derailer
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  12. Because the TRUTH isn't what is wanted here. They want the truth contained and they want to keep up the lie that NVLA was a scn front group and used study tech after Mrs. Oliver left the school.

    If you can find anyone else with firsthand knowledge of the school to negate anything I've said, I'd be glad to hear it. I have direct access to the form head of school, board members, teachers and parents that would also like to know as well. Otherwise, you're all just a bunch of internet blow-hards perpetuating a lie.

    Sadly, WWP's credibility is seriously suspect if this is how things are conducted here.
  13. The only problem with that is that what I'm saying is firsthand - I've been there, I've seen what's going on, and I KNOW. You are choosing not to believe me....and thus, your "opinion".

    Btw, how do you conclude from a fucking picture if kid are staring at one another? You're really reaching hard now.
  14. Kilia Member

    Hey Funny...give it up...we believe actual facts!
  15. Anonymous Member

    I don't know, if he keeps stating "I have first hand experience" a few dozen more times without anything to back it up I might start to treat it as evidence.
  16. Anonymous Member

    The evidence has been sited many times. Oliver the 1st principle left because she oppose the use of study tech and the influence of scientology. There is no other evidence or witness. At the end proponents of the school admit that the downfall of the school is the real or perceived connection to scientology. I didn't remember whether you claim that are not a scilon. You claim that you are a parent. What's your purpose here? School closed, end of story. You want to deny your stupid mistake of sending of your children to a school with no hope of survival? It's closed I remind you. It doesn't matter to your kid except that he/she wasted time. Or, you are something else not wanting any parents to sue, friends of Will or somebody hoping to get some brownie points for them. If you don't identify yourself then your words do not count at all. You can be anonymous but to have to provide verifiable dox.
  17. Umm, she LOST the lawsuit she filed against the school regarding this scn stuff. Or are court records not sufficient evidence too?
    WWP just wants to believe it's right regardless of facts and the truth. Kinda sounds like another group we all know....hmmmmmm.
  18. Anonymous Member

    May be I was on vacation and didn't know about her lawsuit. Any lawsuit must be about violation of her contract which is not relevant about what the Will school teaches. Of course you can tell us how to use the court records to support our claims. Just like I am not going to read the whole dianetics book to answer my own questions.

    Oliver left because NLVA pushed study tech against her will. Otherwise why she left?
  19. Kilia Member

    Weird how his experience is contradictory to evidence.
  20. Kilia Member

    No....Funny's only here to stir up trouble like the good troll he/she is.
  21. Anonymous Member

    But it's first-hand! If you can't believe unsourced statements on the internet what can you believe.
  22. OTeleventy Member

    You win. No study tech after 2010. Cause you say so. I believe you now. VWD.

    Slight problem. School's still closed. And you are on WWP arguing about the purported benefits of a clam school...that's STILL CLOSED.

    [Ermergerd. I need a feckin life. I am still arguing with this numpty. Kinda feel sorry for the kid.]
  23. Anonymous Member

    Without documentation/evidence of this claim, it is your credibility that is at stake here. So far, you have less than zero credibility ITT, except for perhaps, a butthurt scientologist and/or apologist. That is almost credible.
  24. RightOn Member

    I said I was done, but something bugged me and I fight Scientology to educate people on their abuses.
    You said a "consulting firm" came into NVLA some posts back and you said it was non Sci group.
    Why would a school need a consulting group?
    Do you remember the name of the group?
    Because I will bet dollars to donuts that it was a Sci group.
    Here are some other non Sci groups. *insert sarcasm* where you will never find the word Scientology.
    Go look at these groups yourself!
    Youth For Human Rights
    Citizens Commission on Human Rights aka the CCHR
    The Way To Happiness
    Applied Scholastics
    Sterling Management Systems
    Singer Consultants
    ABLE- Association for Better Living and Education
    Cry Out
    The Drug Free Marshals
    Effective Business Tools or Effect Management Centers aka EMC
    Ebony Awakening
    5MARTZ- in the UK
    Educating Children International
    Artists For Human Rights
    RazzLine Business Directory
    Second Chance
    Foundation For a Drug Free World
    There are many many more!

    Here is a List of WISE Training Courses:
    Any look familiar?
    Study Technology
    How to Achieve Effective LearningBasic Study ManualGrammar and CommunicationStudy Skills for LifeHow to Use a DictionaryLearning How to Learn
    Efficiency Courses
    Improving Business through Communication
    How to Effectively Handle Work
    How to Increase Efficiency in Your Company
    The Problems of Work
    Ethics and Integrity Courses
    How to Get Along with Others
    Personal Values and Integrity
    Ups and Downs in Life
    Ethics for Business Survival
    Formulas for Business Success
    Executive Courses
    How to Live Though an Executive
    Executive Basics
    How to Get Things Done
    Management by Statistics
    Effective Leadership
    Management by Statistics System (Windows®)
    Management Skills
    How to Increase Profits through Proper Financial Planning
    Basic Organization
    How to Expand Your Company by Making Planning Become Actuality
    How to Write Effective Company Policy
    OEC Volume Zero
    The Management Series Volume with CD
    How to Evaluate and Predict Human Behavior
    Special Course in Human Evaluation Lectures
    The Personnel Potential Analysis Testing System(Windows®)
    Public Relations and Marketing
    Public Relations

    Also get your butt over to the thread here that is discussing all the ads posted by members of Scientology on Craig's List.
    Scientology members post about 200 ads a day. They have many titles. Such as Martial Problems, Problems Concentrating, Depression, Study Problems etc.....
    You will never see the words SCIENTOLOGY in ANY of these ads.

    Scientology also infiltrates through the Boy Scouts in Fl. and other areas, Chiropractor, Dentist and Vet Offices.
    They have the chiros or dentists pay to print up pamphlets with their names on it and place them in their waiting rooms. They have their employees get on course and hopefully some of their patients. For every person they get on course they get a kick back. Sad but true.
    Here are a few lawsuits:
    Oregon dentist:
    Chicago Dentist:
    Chiro in Fla-

    Scientology is by far the sneakiest, most insidious disseminator out there.
    Know who you are dealing with!

    There are MANY MANY more front groups.
    Just Google Scientology Front Groups and see for yourself!

    I posted this to show you Scientology's ways of sneaking in EVERYWHERE they can.
    It is extremely easy to get duped by them because of the lack of the word Scientology.
    Mayors, town officials, police, firefighters, and more get duped by them every day. Hard to believe, but this goes on World Wide EVERY DAY.
    Disseminating Scientology is one of the things that the "church" will never and can't stop because it is following the commands of founder L. Ron Hubbard and the tech he wrote. To not follow it would be considered out ethics. The only way to stop them is to stop them with exposure.
    You can make a difference, please help to spread the word!
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  25. Anonymous Member

    "You shouldn't be scrubbing the floor on your hands and knees.
    Get yourself a nigger; that's what they're born for"

    Quote by founder of Scientology L. Ron Hubbard in a letter to his wife.
    Same person who wrote the study tech
    Look up some of his other wonderful quotes on the internet
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  26. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Heyyyy. Numpties need love, too, y'know. Don't be hatin'.
  27. Random guy Member

    Yes, and with no independent sources we only have your word for it. We don't know who you are, we don't know if you are lying or telling the truth as you see it, we simply has nothing to evaluate what you claim. Thus you have no dox, only your word, and as I am sure you will have realized by now, your word (or mine, or anyone else's) does not carry any weight.

    Dox, dox, dox. Unless you can back up your claims, you don't have a case. It really is that simple.
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  28. Anonymous Member

    So, there's no point to defend a closed scilon school and your own stupid mistake. But to get some compensation for being cheated, hell yes.
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  30. RightOn Member

    FINALLY proof that the Smiths are Scientologists
    and that YES STUDY TECH WAS TAUGHT AFTER 2010!!!
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  32. Anonymous Member

    And ^^^ that is too funny for a like! :)
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  33. I see the assclown mods have deleted most of my comments. Cowards.

    I'll say it again. "Where's the proof?" Or are you only excepting of verbal accounts when they align with your opinion?
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  34. White Tara Global Moderator

    Are you referring to the posts that have been downvoted into absentia ?
  35. I apologize, I forgot they got "moved" to the derailed thread. Which is a bit confusing seeing how I'm one of maybe 2 or 3 people here with actual first hand knowledge on the subject. Oh well, I guess the truff be damned.
  36. White Tara Global Moderator

    Its ok, is easy to lose track of stuff around here. carry on :)
  37. 594

    Your posts weren't derails and shouldn't have been moved.
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  38. Thank you. I didn't think so either. Apparently contrary facts to popular opinion = derail around here.
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  39. Random guy Member

    Actually, they were not facts, because you failed to provide any form of documentation for your claims. We repeatedly asked for it, and you failed to bring any. Since your voice has no more weight than mine, that leave your assertion an opinion, not a fact for the purpose of this discussion.

    Your first posts were not derail, but your numerous posts after we asked for DOX or GTFO were. Deal with it.

    Interestingly, Olivier now have spoken up, and her story does not at all match yours. Are you saying she is lying?
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