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WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

Discussion in 'Wikileaks' started by functionunknown, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Good examples of falsely accused men behaving like Assange, although unlike Assange, these guys weren't assholes with a long history of being a lothario, are Reade Seligmann, Colin Finnerty, and David Evans. You also see some strong parallels between the behavior of Crystal Gail Mangum and the two accusers in this case, Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilen. One went back to being a drug addicted stripper the next night. Assange's accusers held a party in his honor the next day (one) and had a lovely breakfast and paid for his train ticket the following morning (the other). I won't claim to have any sort of expertise in this field, but severe emotional trauma and an intense desire to be away from one's attacker would seem to be a normal response to a legitimate rape, barring something truly odd circumstances.

    I wouldn't trust Assange not to break the heart of any female relatives or any woman I cared about. For that matter, I'd barely trust him to open his mouth without sounding creepy or self-righteous. However, I would trust him to keep it in his pants without consent.
  2. Rockyj Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Society NEEDS TO KNOW this rarely happens & that most rape victims will NOT report it because of this F-N stigma is placed upon them! THAT women will falsely accuse men of rape! NADDA!
    The majority of rapes ARE NOT STRANGER RAPES but are acquaintance rapes and/or by someone they know (date rape), which is one of the most heinous crimes & about violence, power & control!
    From my research re: Assange he may be guilty of being a player & perhaps over indulgence in regard to his fame but I believe by his reactions, he's genuinely insulted by these allegations as any innocent person would be!

    BTW: I would not be saying this if I didn't believe it!
  3. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    what weirds me out more about those two women more than even the raep stuff is their involvement in something that endorses a weird form of Aryan white supremacy type of dogma.

    this is just from memory, and i will correct myself if i have this wrong.
    unfortunately, i cannot come up with the specifics at this exact moment.


    /cocks.
    it just all comes down to cocks, doesn't it?
  4. TinyDancer Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Interesting. I take from what you're saying that his behaviour indicates that he believes he did not rape the women.

    It's conceivable to me that Assange would think himself innocent, yet be found guilty due to the breadth of the Swedish laws. We don't know the precise allegations, of course. But it's clear that this isn't the usual case of violent rape. it seems to be a case where the Swedish laws (possibly) catch a broader range of conduct than rape laws in other countries and there are some who want the law to catch even more conduct (such as where even the "victim" didn't think she was raped). In that scenario, one can imagine a man being caught out.
  5. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Rocky ...very good points.

    i teeter back and forth with this.
    to play devils advocate for a moment, maybe the two chicks were fan tards of his, who were afraid that if they spoke out, they would get the shaft from others in that circle of hero worship..... that when the two chicks spoke to each other and had had common experiences, that it gave them a little courage to say something?

    the hell if i know.
    it will work itself out in court.
  6. grebe Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Rockyj, your rape crisis center experience isn't going to help you with this situation.

    My advice is to stay the fuck out of it. Sweden is apparently a strange place with extra laws about "Oh shit I was gonna get up and get a condom but then I just came on your ass."
  7. Rockyj Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    From the reports I've read & researched re: Julian Assange he basically had consensual sex with two women in a few days. The first woman stated the condom broke & and other had morning sex w/o a condom who state's she was sleeping. This must be the SURPRISED SEX! I don't know of any woman who would NOT be awoken by this action. SURPRISE! She would either have to be passed out/& or too loaded on drugs & YES that would be considered rape if she did not consent to it! However, from what I've research this scenario doesn't seem to be the case.
  8. WillyWonkanon Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    shit, is this what happened?

  9. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    and yet sex with animals is legal in Sweden (apparently since the 1940s, so my pet roslag sheep, Henrika, tells me).
  10. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    i always liked morning sex.
    i loved to wake up to purring in my ear and my lover's dong.

    there is my expert input.
    don't tell mom i said that.
  11. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    sweeeeden is fucked up.
  12. Rockyj Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    PLEAZ Moijto (once again) SPRAYED SCREEN!
  13. grebe Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Just remember that "meow!" means "no!"
  14. CarltonBANKS Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    the women all agree that the sex was consensual. It was not rape, by definition. Seriously, Glenn Beck understands it, you can too!
  15. Rockyj Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Please note: If you think Glenn Beck has any understanding of reality is a joke on you!
  16. Major Boyle Member

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    They don't need the Swedish rape allegations to nail Assange. By outing the CIA's Kabul station chief, Assange committed a US federal felony punishable by 25 years in prison. Remember the Valerie Plame affair when it was claimed Scooter Libby outed her? Well, in Assange's case, he really did out a covert agent. Big no-no.
  17. Major Boyle Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    You are confusing Treason with the Espionage act. Strictly according to the constitution, there is NOTHING in it that says traitors can only be US citizens, merely that they give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States during time of war.

    Now, the Espionage Act says if you disburse government secrets, particularly for money (as Wikileaks has apparently done), then you go to Club Fed for an all-expenses vacation for a long time.

    If the US wants to fuck Assange, they will. Already there's calls on ABC for greater net security to "fight cyber terrorism". It's just beginning, guys.
  18. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Also, I read that you can now buy female sex toys in swedish pharmacies without having to go to the effort of finding a specialist purveyor of plastic plonkers. That'll turn out to be handy for them won't it, especially since a vocal minority are intent on de-penising the male population through legislated fear of ever wanting to stick their dicks in swedish girls ever.
  19. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Something is fucked up with Sweden laws.
  20. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    All I can say is don't FUCK swedish girls!
  21. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Its been a while buddy, I really can't remember exactly where your sarcasm stops and where it switches gears.

    I was saying it LOOKED strange that he didn't defend himself, and stopped an interview and stormed out calling the reporter names when he was asking a very basic question. My post would be info for people for and against him, walking out of an interview can be spun either way.

    But having read what sponge linked to it is becoming more and more clear to me what this guy is like, he does what he wants and justifies it later. That seems to be the feeling of his co-workers at wiki leaks, these women who accuse him and imo what he has done with the leaks and his framing, editing and editorializing of them.
  22. Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    10 Days in Sweden: The Full Allegations Against Julian Assange - Guardian (UK)


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  23. Sponge Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    .
  24. Anonymous Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    Think REAL HARD Julian. If you can't remember women you stayed with, and had sex with, and sponged off of on a trip to Sweden, you are probably not in a mental state to blame the Pentagon for conspiring against you.
  25. Anonymous Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    nah, he's just being gentleman.
  26. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    One thing strikes me about this - Swedes typically have a rather relaxed attitude (in comparison to, say, the UK) when it comes to 'one night stands'. It is quite normal for men and women to have sex with whomever they fancy, whenever they fancy, without expecting anything more, and certainly not with the sort of jealousy that might arise after such activities in some other cultures. Amen to that.

    Women, especially (from my perspective as a non-Swede), are more assertive and down-to-earth about sexual matters.

    My reading of the linked Guardian article leads me to believe that, at best, this is a case of a clash of cultures more than anything. Anyone from outside the Nordic area who visits cannot fail to be a little taken aback by eg, attitudes to public nudity. They really do do things differently over there!

    Those people labelling Assange a playa seem to be unaware of that difference. It really jumps out at me in the article, how misunderstandings based on differing cultural norms are the reason behind these allegations, which a close reading of what was reportedly said and done certainly do not, to my mind, add up to any crime having been committed.

    We shall see, no doubt.
  27. Anonymous Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    He had unprotected sex with Anonymous!?
  28. Anonymous Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    "Harold" is Wikileaks' Swedish coordinator. How long now do you think he keeps that post?

  29. Anonymous Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    I'll bet it was nothing compared to the raep'n we are gona be getting from him over the next few weeks.
  30. Anonymous Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    is it wrong that i am already tired of this story?

    NEXT.
  31. Anonymous Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    Julian should just meet up with UN representatives and Interpol at a
    super seekrit Titty Bar and call it a day.
  32. SomeRandGuy Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    QFT
  33. Anonymous Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    how sad that a chick sayz that it was the worst sex evar.
    sometimes a dood who spends most of his time fapping to pron forgets how to handle a real pussay.
  34. Anonymous Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    don't kill me, i am just trying to find something. something to laugh about in this sloppy international fap fest mess.
    what a total fucking mess.
  35. Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    Perhaps we should use the slogan, "Justice for Assange" more. For the moment I don't know what to believe.

    I've read the whole article and considered the matter for a few hours. Unless the Swedish prosecution service can come up with something more convincing than what's in that article there's reasonable doubt whether or not Julius Assange is guilty.
  36. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    But then we also have him trying to drag the pentagon into these one nite stands which make the claims of the Swedish government all the less crazy sounding, and him much more crazy sounding.

    Then there is the e-mail from the girl he stalked in Australia in addition to the reports of him being extremely self centered, his being manipulative combined with ego, and his ability to create his own fantasist reality makes me think he probably did coerce the one woman into having unprotected sex and possibly did break his condom on purpose. I don't know if that is a crime in Sweden, but I think he could be trying to deflect attention and gain support by embarrassing governments who he has personal hatred for. - but you are right we will have to see.
  37. undertheradar Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    If I had of known there was that much anonymous sex I would have signed up long ago lmfao:D
  38. Anonymous Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    Heaven forbid we get the facts before starting a movement.

    (not our style)
  39. ninmah Member

    Re: Detail of rape and sexual assault allegations against Julian Assange of Wikileaks

    Indeed.
  40. Anonymous Member

    Re: WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas

    Big fuzz about nothing.

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