If one must use vulgarity just to make a point, then most likely my comment I apologized for about moronically boasting from behind a podium for self glorification should stand openly lose to allow a few the definition, not including yourself in that grouping though.. Your "sane revelation" makes a person ponder...what purpose the willfully constant use of vulgarity serves other than to emphasize a point one is lost to making well. Using explicative language is usually a sign of intolerant failure. I guess if you can feel free to decide I am one guilty of squeamish modesty, then I should feel welcome to make that assessment, thank you. I just refuse to lower what low amount of intellect others propose I have to casting shitty words back and forth at each other in the guise of holding a sane conversation... I'm glad there are some here smart enough to realize that its worth answering some of my questions rather than to merely lolly gag around without anything better to do than compromise their standpoint by doing nothing other than being derogatory. Its such actions from the little ones that doesn't lend your forum much weight in scruples. If an outsider were to look in on the conversation, they may find "some" fault with my concepts or the way I might even handle thing, but I am sure they would find a "childishness" to allot of the people who replied foolishly here. I have learned some things, but definitely not from more than two thirds of the posters that chose lower levels of decorum to make their point or failed to make a viable point.... may we go on? Haklaf, Herro, Telsa are you thoroughly hopelessly exasperated as to educating me a bit more on the issues .