Since the 1979 Iranian revolution and the downfall of the US Puppet Ruler the Shah, Iran has been an Islamic state. In that interval of time, 1979 to the present, Iran has not invaded anyone. Not once. People of all religions live in peace in Iran, even Jews, who find life so comfortable in Iran they refused an offer by the government of Israel to emigrate! In the same period of time, Israel, a self-declared Jewish state, attacked Iraq in 1981, bombing the power station at Osirik, claiming it was a clandestine weapons factory. Subsequent examination of the ruins following the 2003 invasion proved Israel had lied. In 1982, Israel invaded Lebanon. This led to the Massacres at Sabra and Shatilla. In February 2003 Israel stages incursions into Gaza and Nablus. In September 2007 Israel bombs Syria, again insisting they are destroying a clandestine weapons laboratory. Again there is no evidence to support Israel's claims. In 2006, Israel attacks Lebanon, killing 1200, mostly civilians, several UN observers, and littering the landscape with land mines on their way out.In February 2008 Israel again raids Gaza, killing over 100. HAMAS agrees to a cease fire and keeps it for 6 months until November 4, when Israel again attacks, killing 6 HAMAS members, launching operation CAST LEAD. 1300 Gazans, mostly civilians, are killed. Israel loses 13 soldiers. Violations of international law include the use of White Phosphorus incendiary bombs against civilians and non-military targets. The United Nations investigates, but Israel refuses to cooperate. In May 2010, Israel attacks an international aid flotilla bring food and medical supplies to Gaza in international waters. 9 people are murdered including an American from New York. Add to it the numerous assassinations such as last year's embarrassment in Dubai, and you get the picture, even without the overtly racist and apartheid statements coming from Israel's rabbis. In the same period of time, the United States, officially a secular nation but predominantly Christian, attacked El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004), Georgia/Djibouti/Kenya/Ethiopia/Yemen/Eritrea War on Terror (2004), Pakistan drone attacks (2004 to present), Somalia (2007), South Ossetia/Georgia (2008), Syria (2008), Yemen (2009),etc. etc. etc. etc. 1. Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused. 2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused. 3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused. 4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed. 5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities. 6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat. 7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons. 8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona. 9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble. 10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact. 11. Recently revealed documents prove not only that Israel has nuclear weapos, but actually tried to sell some to Apartheid South Africa. Who else Israel approached to sell nuclear weapons remains an unasked question. 12. In 1965, Israel stole over 200-600 pounds of weapons-grade uranium from the United States. 13. Declassified documents from the former South African regime prove not only that Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades, but has tried to sell them to other countries! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_presidential_election,_2009#Polling The polls do not say Ahmadinejad will definatly lose infact most of them say he will win http://www.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-06-08-voa60-68691447.html Clashes broke out between police and groups protesting the election results from early morning on Saturday onward. Initially, the protests were largely peaceful. However, as time passed, they became increasingly violent. Some protesters began to get violent after the results of the election were announced. Angry crowds in Tehran broke into shops, tore down signs, and smashed windows. Civil unrest took place as protesters set fire to tyres outside the Interior Ministry building and others formed a human chain of around 300 people to close off a major Tehran street. The demonstrations grew bigger and more heated than the 1999 student protests. Al Jazeera English described the 13 June situation as the "biggest unrest since the 1979 revolution." It also reported that protests seemed spontaneous without any formal organization.
Because they were the ones backed by the Soviets and we couldnt puppet them. Personally I dont hate Iran. I think its wonderful that they accept a height handicapped person as their president.
Hate is a strong word to use against the people of a country. People might and do Hate the "Government of Iran" but I dont think anybody hate a country for that matter.
Perhaps now we all can understand the nature of contents being regarded as a wish to continiue the negotiations, which Catherine Ashton has recently expressed not to have had anything new after a three months of delay by the regime of Terror in Iran. No Iranian friends of mine have felt themselves to be hated on the contrary they know how international community differentiates between a Iran as a regime of terror and a Iran as beutiful as other peolple. Now as for the question in the title, requires a very very long answer to cover the exact nature of crimes being comited by the criminal nature of the terror regime of Iran, I suggest you first read some of the content in this forum and if you find some thing missing, Please do add it here to be fair.
Iran instigates a guerrilla war against Israel by funding and arming radical terrorists who attack civilians. Israel defends itself against such attacks. OP fails to mention this. OP fails to convince.
Both Israel and Palestine are trying to commit themselves to their words spoken lately. If you search for the news you can see that there has been some igniting attempts to promote ignitions to test the power of commitment to the words spoken. It is therefore important that people whom are affected by those spoken words which is to bring peace through mutual understandings, support their leaders to prevent such ignitions to harm peace in favour of fagots like the one we see here.
yes, OP... who is this "we" you talk about? You may hate Iran, I don't. And just to throw a little sand in your lube: IRAN HANGS AND BEHEADS GAY TEENAGERS IN PUBLIC. They (Iranian security) also BEAT WOMEN IN THE STREETS of Tehran for showing 2centimeters too much of their hair. I don't hate Iran. But I sure as fuck don't want to live there until they start respecting human rights.
But the middle east does believe that until Israel is wiped of the map there can't be peace? And they claim they've been there for centuries when Israel has be proved to be there before Iran etc? Just wondering for a point of view on these statements. Thanks
God, we're so fucking badass it hurts sometimes. EDIT: Where the fuck is Eritrea, I must have missed that one.
It is not at all true that middle east believes in that. It is the belive of those following the path of Khomeini. That is to say Khameni, Ahmadinejad, Hezbollah,.....and any other who is following the path of khomeini known as "khat_e Imam". You are historically refering to "Persians" now regarded as Iranians. In this conflict, Iran has no place but only as Hezbollah. Hezballah is as defied among Iranians fighting tyrani as is defied by the rest of Arab world and Israil.
Most of no-Iranians who are lacking contact with Iranians have not been given time to differentiate between Iran as a regime of terror and Iran as a nation. It seemes you have some information about some difficulties Iranians as a nation are facing by the tyrani of the Iran regime, but still have not been able to distinguish the fact despite the fact that you as once expressed are active in some events, my advice is in addition to what I previously did is to intgrate yourself in the community to enjoy more.
Where the hell are you getting your info from? Straight from Ayatollah Khamenai press office? It's not just imprecise, it's so incorrect that it laughable. Libya was a terrorist state that bombed an air plane full of innocent people over Lockerbie. When Qaddafi refused to extradite the perpetrators, Lybia was bombed. And rightfully so. Lebanon 1982-1983: there was a civil war in Lebanon at this time, in which your country Iran played quite a role in supporting the shia militants. Egypt 1983 - I'm not aware of anything happening in Egypt 1983. 1984 Persian Gulf - you Iranian geniuses were fighting Saddam Hussein back then over the very important subject of how the Persian Gulf would be named; The US did not invade Saudi Arabia in 1990, but was rather allowed to use the Saudi territory against the Saddam Hussein; Iraq 1991- do we need to remind you why the US invaded Iraq? Because Iraq invaded Kuwait and just for the laughs for shooting skad rockets over Israel; Bosnia-Herzegovina - was not invaded by the US and is not ruled by the US. First of all- get your facts straight - the Bosnian war began on 6 April 1992. Second of all - the international community, UN peace keepers and peace enforcers helped the Bosnian Muslims to stabilise the country and end the bloody 4 year long war. Your country did nothing to help your Muslim brothers in Bosnia, who were being slaughtered. All you did is built some mosque that nobody uses in Sarajevo. Money well spent. Nothing happened in Macedonia 1993. However, if you're referring to the NATO campaign to save the Kosovo Albanians, it was in 1999, had nothing to with Macedonia and the campaign was conducted to save, once again, your Muslim brothers the Muslim Kosovo Albanians. Again - nothing happened in Macedonia 1994. Iraq 1998 - Saddam was being a bad boy again. East Timor - 1999 and 2000 was not attacked by the US, you're delusional. In fact, the Muslim regime of Indonesia was persecuting the Christians of East Timor. Indonesia finally ceded this territory under the international pressure. Georgia was never attacked by the US. Look it up on the map. It's nowhere near Djibuti and in fact Georgia was attacked by Russia, however not in 2003, but later. South Osetia/Georgia - again, not the US, Russia was the aggressor. Syria 2008 - Israeli bombed the nuclear reactor that Syrians were building. Now back to why people dislike Iran - it's a theocracy, it limits people's freedoms, it makes women wear ridiculous outfits, it sentences people to stoning, it regularly sends weapons to Hizballah and Hamas in order to destabilise the region, Ahmedinajad repeatedly said that Holocaust never happened, the regime routinely publicly executes people it suspects of being gay, it sentences people to being blinded by acid, it tortures people, it arrests lawyers, it denies freedom of speech and is generally a rogue regime.
The US supported all the actions to overthrough the governments South Osetia/Georgia - again, not the US, Russia was the aggressor. Georgia attacked South Osetia so russia responded to help the people of south osetia and trhe majority of the population are russian And i think you will find that currently there are major protests against the government there which is the government that was in power at the time. L2 South Osetia war Geogia was the aggressor Syria 2008 - Israeli bombed the nuclear reactor that Syrians were building. Israel bombed reactors in Iraq because they where apparently weapons of mass destruction there and we all know how that turned out. L2 non-poliferation treaty theres nothing wrong with building nulear power acording to the UN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclea...#Third_pillar:_peaceful_use_of_nuclear_energy
As I see you have found good resons to hate the regime of terror in Iran, not even naming Iran. It is so obvious All is about peace and you hate Iran for preventing it, as the title of this thread suggests.
And how did you come to that conclusion the information quite clearly is saying that america and israel are sturing up trouble not iran
Iran is not potentially dangerous to anyone but themselves. If, after seeing what happened in Japan, they still want nuclear power, let 'em have it. The US should really fix its own internal problems, and never mind the rest.
Sorry, but I do hate the regime in Iran. A regime does not need to invade other countrie to be rogue. Look at North Korea. The regime is abussive of its own people. The regime in Iran is extremely brutal on its own citizens. Where else in the world [apart from in Afghanistan] do people get stoned to death? Where else is there a modesty police, brutally manhandling women while arresting them for showing too much hair? Where else gays are being hanged in public squares? Where else citizens are forced to watch those hangings? Where else girls are allowed to get married at the age of 12? And if we're talking about stirring up shit - Iran totally does it. They keep in stirring up the shit in Syria/Lebanon/Israel/Palestine/Iraq by constantly sending ships with weapons, by financing Hizballah that distabilizes and threatens the Lebanese government. Iran also destabilizes Iraq by supporting the militant Muqtada al-Sadr. Iranian regim is backwards, delusional, rogue, militant and aggressive.
Sorry but you sound like a typical Muslim....you hate America......(not you but.....tell me you dont see this with your own people)....including "Americans" "Americans" are not their government but you seem to draw the same conclusions to even have a post like this. This is hypocritical. Americans do not hate Iran. We all pretty much think your leader is a flat out nutjob and your political system is worse than, well, pretty much anyone.....but we dont hate Iran or Iranian people. This is the type of thread just asking for trouble.
I think the use of the gun was neither necessary nor appropriate. How should it have been do you think to serve the purpose?
your fucking lost. If you choose nonviolence than do it. I dont think violence is the answer but look at what you want. You tell me the best way to address it. I dont live there and Im not living it but to address something to the world under " Why do you hate Iran?" Is just fucking stupid. Its like saying may 21st is the rapture. Its a stupid post used to draw ridiculous attention and its worthless. Also look at what the OP put.....it doesnt mean anything to well frankly anyone....honestly....think about it. Decisions made before a good majority of us were born...probably even yourself and then they say why do you hate. I dont hate Iran, nor Muslims, nor the middle east and frankly I think whats going on there, although exciting for the people, is tragic. The turmoil and constant living in fear is something I dont know and hopefully will never know. But again. You pose this as a question that its the US doing this. Seriously read the OP. You dont want the US invovled ever and now the region asks for help. Again to resent us later? Just to have this hatred fueled at a later date? I mean seriously wtf. This has nothign to do with hatred. Has nothing to do with the American or European people or frankly anyone. It has to do with you and Iran. You people figure it out. This thread is nothing more than to fuel more bullshit and label the american people. Its like me being labelled as a slave driver cause im white and my family didnt get to the US till the early 1900s Stop whining and labeling and living in the past. You people figure your own shit out. We dont live in the past like the most of the middle east.
Another thing Iran atleast has an established government. Iraq is pretty much up in the air. Afghan is up in the air and even N. Korea is under the most ridiculous sort of tryantance the world has seen yet. Even their school books say if you throw a gernade at 5 americans and kill 3......etc. Your established government may be crap, you may have been shit on as a country for ages, you may have been oppressed for ages.....we ALL understand this. None of this is acceptable. The wrongs of our past though for people who see this forum and are the active youth among us should not have to continually be wronged for our forefathers transgretions. <sp>
You don't know what youre talking about,nor do you know what or have some thing to do at all. In fact your behaviour here is as if you have just opened your book to do your home work and suddenly you are disturbed by hunger.... to close your book and open the refrigerator.... Just grow up and try to understand who is who, who says what rather than making it a habit of eating too much..... just because you have concentration problem sticking to your book open and at least try to understand what it is about.
lolwut? Don't bother explaining, I really don't care. What SOJOA is pretty accurate. I don't care about the problems of every country. Yes, America - World Police and all, but yeah. Iranian people will look after themselves. I never read any of the Iran threads unless there is an inappropriate title for the thread that caused me to look. Yeah, this thread sucks.
