WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO INVESTIGATE THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

I think it means that the entire thing is set up to get your e-mail address so they can ask for donations, they already asked me.

Outfuckingstanding.

This is my shocked face.

***EDIT***

Hmmm... maybe this is vaguely hidden win? I mean, the fact that DOJ is involved could mean either that the petition was questioning federal LE bodies or it could mean that DOJ is currently involved.

Preferably the latter.

Who is "they" and how much money did they want?

"The Department also has mechanisms in place to investigate allegations of prosecutorial misconduct, including through its Office of Professional Responsibility. With respect to judicial ethics matters, the Judicial Conduct and Disability Act of 1980 vests primary responsibility for investigating and adjudicating claims of judicial misconduct with the Judicial Branch." (From the "How We are Assholes" response to the Rubashkin petition.)

Maybe if we forward the petition, or link to thousands of pages with text and video testimony detailing the criminality of the Co$, to a carefully vetted individual in the Office of Professional Responsibility?

At least someone looked at it. Maybe they forwarded it.

Sorry my bad, I went to look for what I got it was not what I was thinking it was, it was another response from the white house on another topic, that ticked me off. - I have spent to long in the world of no-dox. (fail)

All in favor of Tony O writing an article of this (non)response.

So it was a false alarm? That would explain why I have no response at all. So we do not need to go to Phase Two yet? I had just prepared an initial suggestion on that.

It does not seem to be a false alarm as several over at OCMB have received emails declining to respond. I have not recieved one yet.

We need to discuss, deliberate and debate our next moves. My own initial reaction is that we move on to lobbying the House Ways and Means Committee and the Senate Finance Committee (regarding the IRS fraud and enurement issues), and the House and Senate Judiciary Committees (regarding the DoJ and FBI issues). We could also try an immediate email campaign to the White House, DoJ and certain Senators and Representatives.

Full text of the email I received:

Had I known we would have gotten this non-response, makes me think the better question asked would have been "Revoke the tax-exemption of the Church of Scientology" or "Disclose the IRS details as to why Scientology receives tax benefits greater than any other religion". It's much harder to do a "no comment" on these questions than demanding an explanation/investigation into the cult's abuses.

Yep. Like 'frequent flier miles' that go from a reasonable number to an absurdity to avoid having to dish out free rides. Too many people's petitions were pooting out hueg numbers like the cannabis petition. This one, and other smaller issues, are fucked. It would have been impossible for us to disgorge that many signatures in the time allowed, but that's the point.

I was just coming here to post my non-response email. Beat me to it.

Okay... what's our next move?

immolation?

At least they have officially done nothing at last.

If it is not the official response, we wait. If it is the official response, we run with it to the press.

it's the official response. posted on the We The People website here:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitio...&utm_medium=response&utm_campaign=scientology

It is official. Received an email from WH.

Essentially, the terms of the WH petition site make it virtually impossible to construct a petition that can't be avoided by branding the issue as a "matter properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government." How many powers are expressly under the jurisdiction of the executive branch *alone*? Precious few.

My personal opinion is that this petition was a nice awareness-raising tool and our efforts would be best channeled in other directions at this point. I think it would be wasted effort to rally against the WH response. Under their stated terms, they have a right to respond as they have. Rather than get our panties in a bunch over this, I would like to see energy concentrated on other avenues. Graham suggested some possible legislative routes above. If the Congress is willing to waste time voting on whether or not pizza is a vegetable, I can't imagine this issue would fall outside the realm of their potential consideration. Lol.

Why the sad face? This was a win-win situation regardless. If the White House hadn't replied, the petition would have essentially remained dead. But it did.

A cult with allegations of crimes up to the equivalent of RICO statutes and the White House can't comment? Interesting response.

The word can't says a lot. It carries with it a serious context, and a reason behind it. We can only guess why, but its also juicy press material.

Lobbying is an expensive pursuit, GB. That will require tons of donations to offer anything worthwhile to a senator for this. I can help with a press release but if we lobby, we gotta have a good monetary offer for it.

Well that was a waste of our time, but I'm not surprised. The government doesn't do jack shit unless the moneyz are involved.

GB, what about the Inspector General of the DoJ? http://www.justice.gov/oig/ <<< Sense we got a response from White House, I think contacting Cynthia Schnedar would be the next best step.

What are your thoughts on this non response?

Any luck with Xenu?

I once met a man who put forth the proposition that you can petition the galactic overlord with prayer.
Petition the galactic overlord with prayer.
Petition the galactic overlord with prayer.
PETITION the galactic overlord with prayer.

YOU CANNOT PETITION THE GALACTIC OVERLORD WITH PRAYER.

No, luckily GB got the petition in before they upped the threshold. So that wasn't the issue.

Here's what Tony Ortega did say (and thank you to Karen#1 over at OCMB for the alert!):

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/11/white_house_rej.php

Tomorrow’s editorial in the St. Petersburg Times may be the perfect supporting vehicle for an email campaign directed at the IRS, the House Ways and Means Committee and the Senate Finance Committee. It could be accompanied by a reference sheet of other related hyper-links and demand for immediate action by the IRS and committee hearings in the House and Senate. Any thoughts?

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/article1202497.ece

IRS fraud reporting:

http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html

House Ways & Means Oversight Subcommitee:

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/Subcommittees/Subcommittee/?IssueID=4773

Senate Finance Committee:

http://finance.senate.gov/contact/

Contact the department of justice as well?

Surely, askdoj@usdoj.gov , Dear Mr. Attorney General: ....

"We are critics of the Church of Scientology, who were referred directly to you by the White House to inquire why the fuck the U.S. justice system fails hard against the Church of Scientology. Please get back to us or we will bribe you with cake."

-Anonymous

When does the Special Prosecutor start?

whenever you're ready sweetheart

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When does the Super Power building open? You know, the one that cost 6 times more and took 15 times longer to build than any other similar building in the history of mankind.

You mean in the history of the universe. In this sector of the galaxy that is.

Yeah that too.

It's been thirteen years to the day sine work started on the super power building, and over $50 million has been spent.

Still it remains closed.

And $cientologists really believe that they are the most capable beings on the planet??

We need a petition to address the lying of the White House in saying it does not have the authority to take action in to matters that it legally does. We should demand that the White House inform the public that it at least forwarded the concerns to the (White House) appointed department heads. The Obama administration is responsible for the Justice Department and those they appoint.

We need to add the causes they have refused to address and get those groups to sign on. There are five or six petitions the white house has done this on and there are a combined 75 thousand votes we could pull.

Right now, the White House couldn't care a whit about Scientology. They have to deal with the Occupiers.

Badgering the White House again and again won't work. Its probable it cannot issue executive orders or investigations into these matters until other measures are exhausted first.

(i want to add direct testimony as examples to this to emphasize the seriousness of the allegations in the petition, gotta give it weight, and I need examples with internet links pls)