What Scientology will probably do about the tragic death of Jett Travolta.

What Scientology will probably do about the tragic death of Jett Travolta.

Scientology and the death of Jett Travolta.

The news of the tragic death of Jett Travolta today is a sad event indeed.
My sincere condolences go to the whole family and I hope they can somehow eventually turn this situation into something positive in the medium-long term. Life has ways of bringing the sunshine back after dark clouds have lifted.

For those fans and media who will be trying to come to a real understanding of what will happen with the John Travolta, Kelly Preston and Scientology with regard to this, I can offer some educated guesses based on a very long term (24 years) devoted experience and membership in Scientology. [NOTE: I left Scientology in 1997 after severe "irreconcilable differences" prevented me from wanting to continue, so I am not a proponent of Hubbard or of Scientology now. Indeed, I sued Scientology for fraud and other matters in 1998, but my extensive experiences of how things work in the cult are still intact and I doubt that Scientologists will be very open to providing such information to the media or public].

The vast majority of people will have no idea what this kind of thing will probably entail as far as Scientology style "follow up" is concerned.

Firstly, information about what the family is doing will most likely be curtailed or cut.
Scientology spokespeople will very likely give out generalized "press releases" through lawyers or PR personnel that will give no real substance for informing the public.

Secondly, the questions that have arisen about whether the anti-drug/anti-pharmaceutical tenets of Scientology might possibly have actually prevented Jett from receiving proper medical treatment or preventative assistance will be downplayed, denied, ridiculed and/or harshly criticized to try to get attention off the issue as fast as possible. This aspect, however, may not just "go away". It is a question of life or death, after all...

Thirdly, the family will very likely go to Clearwater, Florida (or maybe have Scientology professionals come to their Florida home, but this is far less likely) to the Oak Cove building and/or Sandcastle Hotel for what Scientology calls "handlings". These handlings will very likely entail the following;

0. Meeting with the staff member who deals with grieving people to cover physical details of a funeral and/or a memorial. Then those arrangements would be planned and carried out. The liaison would probably be done the current celebrity handler who would be a high ranking Sea Organization member.

1.Ethics interviews and associated procedures. (Scientology's "Division 1" services.)

This aspect of services would look into the unfortunate and tragic event of Jett's death being a possible result of some kind of personal ethics breach or lack of integrity by the parents. In particular the individual parents would have separate interviews about their own role in the tragedy or how come they "pulled in" (a Scientology ethics jargon term) such an awful situation by something in their own behavior.

The Scientology celebrity ethics officer would also actively look for one or more people in the Travoltas' circle of friends, acquaintances who might be antagonistic to or even anti-Scientology and who could have had sufficient negative influence to "cause" such a tragedy. That person would then be the target of possible disconnection (shunning), firing or lawsuit/fair game. There would be many steps possible for John and Kelly coming out of the "Ethics" handlings, and these could not be predicted here.

***It is worthy of note that the potential question of NOT giving proper or adequate medication would not be considered a Scientology ethics violation due to L.Ron Hubbard's indoctrination to avoid such medical or psychological types of treatment. In fact, the failure to give doctor-recommended drugs or medications to Jett might factually be considered to be a laudable Scientology ethics matter.***


2.Correction interviews and procedural steps (Scientology's "Division 5" services).

These steps, sometimes called "Review" would be services designed to address any failures of John or Kelly (and/or Jett's caretaker, as I believe he is a Scientologist) to have properly applied relevant Scientology technologies to their son or his living situation within the family. Any strictly Scientology-dictated ways of living that are detected as to having been omitted or misapplied would have to be re-studied and drilled till they become second nature.


3.Technical sessions ("auditing") (Scientology's "Division 4" services.

This would be some very expensive counseling sessions and personal programs designed to remove, if possible, all the negative emotions from this awful tragedy. This can cost up to $1000 an hour. The outcome of this step is varied in its success and can take weeks or months to complete.

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A more cynical prediction: I would also comfortably estimate that Scientology, as an organization, would attempt to get the maximum financial and public relations benefit from this horrible tragedy. It will be interesting to watch how they go about doing this. In any case the organization through its spokespeople will tend to avoid truth, responsibility and facts. It will also use the media without being of any real service to the media. Hubbard hated journalists almost as much as he hated psychologists, doctors and psychiatrists.

Michael Pattinson

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Thank you for this insiders perspective you suppressive person.

I think we need to see how the purification rundown effected him. Taking too much vitamin A can cause seizures and brain swelling right?

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not to mention that a poor diet during rundown can cause malnutrition and psychological effects...

thank you mike, your posts are always informative, well constructed, thought provoking and tldr

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I liked it

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I guess they never fail to take the opportunity to make a hard sell.

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One can only hope that being subjected to such an absurdly cruel "ethics" regiment, will surely push the Travolta family into finally leaving their cult. What greiving family would tolerate that during what must be a period of sheer agony. Scientology is disgusting and its adherants need to wake the fuck up and its heirarchy needs to be criminally prosecuted. Politicians need to grow a pair and protect their constiuents!! Anonymous did all the hard work and now people can safely speak out against this bullshit. It's time to pull the plug on the tax exemption and let this bag of shit atrophy.

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my guess,

help us help john travolta in his time of crisis! Evil psychs can strike at any moment! come in for [name of course here] before it happens to you!

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The scientology "process" sounds like emotional abuse and torture. This is awful.

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this event is proof that the most tragic victims of this cult is not the willing participants but those that are brought up without any say like jett. when in doubt get the fuck out.

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John Travolta got into the cult in a time of desperate loss and mourning. I believe he "joined" Scientology around the same time that he was seeing Diana Hyland, who subsequently lost her battle with breast cancer.

Michael - would any Scientologist go through these steps, or does it matter where you are on the bridge?

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I was under the impression that celebrities, especially one of John Travolta's stature within the cult, received a very toned down version of the abusive 'tech'.....This sounds like adding gasoline and a lit cigarette to a 3rd degree burn.

I just don't understand how anyone could properly grieve through this expensive and pain inducing process. Michael, please comment more as to whether this whole process would or would not be toned down because of the celebrity aspect.

I don't see how any parent in that much pain could withstand this type of treatment.

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Scientology's "Purification Rundown" ritual contains toxic levels of niacine which is far more dangerous and deadly than Vitamin A.

What a nightmare for the parents. I hope they sue their cult leaders eventually -- for this and for all the money they were rooked and swindled out of.

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Michael, do you think this can be related in any way with DM no being at the New Years Event?

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Also I have been away for a few hours do we know if Jett was being treated by scientologists in FL recently ?

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Thanks for the responses so far.
The process would not be toned down for a celebrity but they would be monitored several times daily for progress or upsets by the celebrity handler assigned to them.

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I doubt it.

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Michael - you missed mine!

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yes, I know about the high doses. I did the Purification thing back in 1979 when it first came out. It was touted as the solution to World War 3 at teh time (yes, seriously).
The radiation was supposed to be flushed out with niacin.

I had some temporary sickness and real physical paralysis while doing it due to the vitamins etc.
I had to take 10g (40 x 250mg tablets) of vitami B1 per day!! Stupidity was rampant as anything Hubbard told us to do was gospel, and we were told we could not survive WW3 without it.

Duhhhhhhhh.

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Any Scientologist would do the same steps but rich celebrities get the velvet glove treatment between sessions and handlings that ordinary members don't get.

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tl;dr lol.

I cut it down b4 posting. I want to give the maximum facts and not skimp.

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Simple, they blame it on Jett (for failing the tech) and tell John to stfu about it and keep paying them money.

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Right now it's looking like the Travoltas stopped in at Clearwater on their way to the hotel where Jett was found dead. No telling whether he was subjected to Scientology's "Puriofication Rundown" while there -- doubt it since that insane quack midical fraud takes days to get subjected to acording to the schedule for the scam.

Bet you they denied him seizure medication.

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The Travolta's do live in Florida.

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It's absolutely fucking incredible that Scientology's body count isn't much higher than it already is. Absolutely amazing. I'm really glad you survived that shit.

Too bad Jett did not!

I MP, you could have been just another name on Scientology's dead customer list.

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If they try to sue that their cult leaders, the cult will be in a so high state of denial. Like Michaels say, they will brainwash him to believe that it was the caregivers fault and want to sue her. There is something very wrong here, and they are going to try to brush the ashes under the rug.

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Mikey, you forgot to include the part where the church acts as an unsuspected and unseen third party to "enturbulate" the "second dynamic" of JT and KP, so as to gain maximal financial return on the "handling" of said enturbulation...

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I was deliberately leaving that part for you, hehe.
You are right, too.

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Hey OSA! Let me do your job for you!

I met, me, an Anonymous SP, with John Travolta's florist. Shes a scilon. Nice lady. Probably never hurt anyone. Lovely flowers. But I met her about 2 months ago at a function.


THATS YOUR PTS SCILONS! SHE HAD CONTACT WITH AN SP.


hehehe, fuck yourselves OSA.

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Oooh, translate please!

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Thank you Michael. You are truly an inspiration and your wealth of knowledge helps us more than you know.

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Michael,
People need to aim torps. What will the low ranking OSA on the forums and comment threads say?
What would any press releases say?

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I think it has to do with "Marital Relations" (and exploiting certain "issues" within for maximum advantage).

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Michael can correct me, but I think it means that they will likely try to play John and Kelly off each other (and drive wedges between them) in order to cause each of them to rely on the CoS instead of each other or others outside the CoS.

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Aaaawww [blush] thx.
I just don't want others to get sucked into the cult's ruinous vortex.
I hope the Travoltas wake up soon too.
I actually enjoy helping Anonymous and you guys/gals have my respect in getting truth out there so brazenly yet with dignity for the victims.

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not to be a douche can we somehow send the travolta family our condolences with one of our masks it might get him ti like anonymous more (MACHIAVALIAN POLITICS FTW)

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No. They will spin it as a threat. This is Scientology we are talking about.

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Translation;
Hmmmm...

Scientologists believe (because Hubbard said so) that it takes a hidden third person to foment a quarrel or war.
WTF anon suggested that Scientology could be doing things to create a rift between a couple for the purposes of getting each one to need more expensive services than they would normally need.
Second dynamic is Scilon speak for sex/family/couple.
Enturbulation is creating upsets (like LE did, lol)

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Thanks, Michael, as always. Isn't it a tribute to the hive that we now know all this and can make some sense of the situation even in the face of a news blackout and whatever else Scientology does to handle it? If we can now get this into the media so much the better. Sooner or later they must realise we know more (collectively) than they do.

Another thread also had air traffic information suggesting handlers left Clearwater for the Bahamas (in one of JT's planes) within an hour of Jett being found; so presumably JT sent for them. This might be why they seem to have done nothing for several hours - but maybe I picked that up wrong from the original newspaper report.

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So...John and Kelly were not in the Bahamas when Jett died??
I'm confused on this one.

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Here's his Gulfstream Jet: FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > N492JT