Discussion in 'Protest Advice' started by Unregistered, Jun 16, 2009.
Really? I would think someone who was a press attache... could spell attache.
A bit bummed
Sigh, I'm a bit disappointed: I read this thread, I read all over the Internet, I've lurked on IRC for days... and after looking and looking, there's really nothing TO do from inside the USA. Maybe letter writing campaigns and changing logos does something for some folks, but it doesn't do much for me (I'm by no means bashing it, but it's just not concrete enough for me). You can set up a proxy, but there are, like ten kabillion of those and they're not being used AFAIK, or you can load up Tor and have who knows what running through your network, which I'm personally very leery of (pls no offense TBP dudes, I highly respect your work here - Tor is just not something I can support).
The folks at Anonymous and TBP along with a select handful of individuals are doing the real work. There's no way to crowdsource it, I guess. (Plus, you've always got very real issues with security and who to trust)
I'm a pretty technical guy (though not a dev) and I deal with *nix servers and network every day, so I could be of some use, but in looking at some of the conversations here, I'm not familiar with any of the anonymizing features like Tor, onion routers and the like. I could learn these specific technologies w/o too much hassle, but that takes time.
Blah, ANYWAY, somewhat disappointed.. that's all I'm saying...
If anyone has any ideas for specific actions of a technical nature (hell, I'll do some gruntwork), post it here. I can't be the only one thinking this.
You're right in a lot of ways. The people who are needed the most are people with a skill set that a lot in the general public don't have -- even with open source software and guides, doing it RIGHT still requires a certain level of expertise. However, the layperson can still be valuable in spreading around the information that does make it out of Iran, making sure it stays on the radar of MSM, and keeping a history of events.
The regime in Iran can't keep the Internet blackout going forever. They are not China. They have a highly literate population that is accustomed to Internet access, to being able to exchange information with a fair amount of freedom. The longer the blackout goes on, the more that's going to allow dissent to ferment; and once the Internet is opened up again -- perhaps not 100%, but to some degree -- the people of Iran who may not have experienced the unrest first hand will be able to see what happened this week. They will be able to see the weakness of their regime in handling the demonstrators, that the state TV was feeding them lies and disinformation.
So while it may not seem like you're having as immediate an impact as those who have put their skills and security on the line to get information out of Iran, you're contributing to the long-term success of the demonstrations.
Support from USA
I just wanted to let all the people from Iran to know that I am praying hard for all of you and hope you will get your democracy!!! America is standing by your side protesters
I do believe that the letter-writing campaigns among other signs of the people's will are making a difference in how our government and our media respond to this. It will push them to represent their very best effort.
It is a crapshoot. There is very little we can do. Yes, it takes literally years to have the kind of training through which people make a larger social difference in the world. The helplessness we feel does not have to control us. I am in favor of having a realistic view that we can make but little difference and pushing that aside to take action. These things will cause attention and let the government in Iran know: we are watching. We can always mourn our helplessness later.
But don't listen to me. I am not an idealist. Idealists have the energy to do the impossible. I'm all about the possible.
Hmm, maybe the technical non dev types, new on the scene, wanting to help could do some kind of support with folks in Iran trying to use and install Tor, or point to a proxy? Maybe you can't learn enough abou the technology to help implementation, but could learn the UI and install procedures quick enough to help.
Eh, grandiose idea - there won't be the structure available in this revolution... but maybe folks could prepare for the next one?
T-Shirts to Show Solidarity, Proceeds to be Donated
I got some great ideas for where to send any proceeds I make from some "Her Name Was Neda" designs I posted on Zazzle earlier today. Depending on the design you pick, somewhere between $4-$5 will be donated (Zazzle takes a sizeable chunk, but I just don't have the resources to make these on my own).
People of the world are just people, whether they be Iranians or Americans. We're all human and deserving of freedom and control of our destiny. I've got a Tor relay running and I've been talking to everyone I know about the Iranian protests. I wish I could do more for you guys. Us Americans will stay glued to this site and help in any way we can.
I wonder if someone could upload this video on youtube : Login | Facebook
What does the video show?
God's speed to the people of Iran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from Canada with love
Dos attacks no effect on Irans backbone
The Regime websites the resistance has taken down and kept down
has had no effect on Iranian WWW traffic.
I can't get google blog photos to post here,
( it worked , yahooooo. )
So I am providing a link to the post also.
Internet Anthropologist Think Tank: Tehran Internet connectivity:
If the world were to join in the Iranian WWW could be brough down.
If the resistance so chooses.
How can I help outside of Iran?
What can I do to help outside of Iran?
می توانم چه چیزی انجام بدهم که بیرون ایران کمک بکنم ؟
لطفاپست الکترونیک به من "
Email me at email@example.com
Amen to that
FaceBook profile pictures
Hello- let's change our profile pictures to the color green in solidarity with the Iranians who are dying for their cause. If you have the ability to tint your existing profile picture or add an element of green to it, do it. Take a picture of something green or a picture of a green ribbon. Let the world know that elections should not be stolen. If only we had taken a strong stand like the Iranians after our election of 2000 was stolen from us, the world would be different today.
Secret police systems only work if the plain-clothes officers can remain unknown. Real terrible abuses, like shooting civilians in a crowd, can only remain feasible if there is no concern about retribution. By creating a resource for Iranians to identify secret police members, you reduce the feasibility of violence on the part of the secret police. That's something that you can do from America and would reduce violence and save lives in Iran.
All you're doing is providing the same resources for the protesters as already exist for the security apparatus. You can damn sure guarantee that the secret police are compiling a database of protester images, return the favor and help people to identify infiltrators and killers.
I just don't like the colors in that picture. Its got the right color scheme, but it doesn't work for me. A graphic designer could do wonders.
im iranian of decent, living in the US. my dad was born there and exiled shortly after the revolution. a freind of his still living in iran, who is now a reporter, contacted him a few days ago asking for his help with getting vidoes and pictures to the media. we have direct contact with her as well as many family members and freinds in iran if thats any help.
How Americans Can Help Iran
Those who are technically inclined can set up a proxy for the Iranian people. Instructions are available here: Why We Protest - IRAN - Help Iran Online. My thoughts are with Iran during this struggle, and I hope to build new friendships once the crisis is over.
Friends, Im writing from Rio de Janeiro, and Ive just watched Nedas video, what left me deeply shocked. I would like to know, how can I help u guys from here.
Another fellow anon from Rio de Janeiro here. How can we help you?
(Also I think I'll have nightmares forever with that Neda pic... Worse than smile.dog, specially because it really happened...)
I believe the people of Iran are very brave and smart. It is amazing how they are using technology for their advantage. God bless you, the world is on your side.
Women of Iran need to come out in force.
It would be a very great thing for the world to see a sea of black clad women leading peaceful protests in Iran.
Let the world see if the government dares to strike defenseless women!!!
Change your tactics and emulate the civil rights activists in the USA in the 1960's. It worked and brought change!!!
As much as we in the outside are galvanized to see all people together marching for dignity you need to be smarter than the government.
Shame them and bring them to the table on your terms not theirs.
Women have a different way of negotiating and doing things in general. I think it is time for the women in Iran to stand up and take back the country and let it be led by the mothers who rule the home. Change has to start with the ones at the bottom who have the least rights.
This message tells us what Iranians could use from us
A Message To The International Community From Inside Iran
I'm an American.
Jemand spricht Deutsch?
I can speak English, German, Dutch, Russian and Ukrainian [native]. last two are most important, i guess, since it's lots of misinformation in Russian media and so little of truth. trying to fix it....
Count me in for Spanish.
can i take it to translate in russian and distribute in russian media/resourses?
Helping our Iranian friend, relatives in Iran
One thing we can do is to translate pages about first aid and methods of protecting themselves in their protest to Farsi. If you know farsi, it shouldn't be difficult.
If you don't have access to a farsi font, type it in Fenglish (Farsi words in english letter)
and post it here and in all other websites ( facebook, tweeter, etc.).
And Also, be their voices, talk about the situation with whoever you can. Post it on websites. Carry their messages to all the communities you are part of.
Peace for the world...
As you guys probably know, several websites disclosed photos of protestors and are asking for informations about them. A quick WhoIs and GeoIP brings up interesting data :
Hosting location Amsterdam, Netherlands
Programming language PHP
GeoIP result (geographic localisation by IP) :
Country Code NL
Country Name Netherlands
Region Name Noord-Holland
ISP LeaseWeb B.V.
Being hosted in Holland means several things :
First, lobbying it's ISP/host could be useful : bultanews seems to have been took down that way (it was hosted in the USA). An emailing campaign protesting again hosting khodkar, threats of boycott and/or divulging it's involvement may be the easy way to get rid of it.
It also means DDoS attacks wouldn't have any negative impact on the Iranian network. Not to mention a legal action would probably be ruled put as it would be a commerecial suicide (who wants to be the famous pro-ahmadinejad, pro-delation occidental ISP/host ?).
Just my 2 cents. Spamming the shit out of firstname.lastname@example.org is not gonna satisfy me, and the fact that those sites are still up after several days is kinda disappointing, I think it's time for a more offensive stance.
Suggestion, comments and volunteers are welcome.
Let's go into zionist uber-haxorz mode
There are maybe some things we can do. Americans and Canadians can contact every elected official to put pressure on our governments to protest and ask that they will do all they can to get Iran expelled from the United Nations.
Also everyone can pray for the safety of these brave people who may never get another chance to free themselves from an abusive government.
Third, does anyone know of a source to purchase T-shirts with the "Free Iran...Neda" on them. If thousands of people wore these it might get back to the Iranians and be a source of encouragement.
National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC)
It it worth it to start messing with the NIOC? Any thoughts?
I am more and more disgusted with the Iraninan govt & am keep toying with the idea of moving beyond simple reformer support (for the lulz!) to something else.
Contact info below:
National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC)
National Iranian Oil Company Building
P.O. Box 1863
Tel"+98 21-615-2929 Fax:+98 21-615-3886 Email:email@example.com
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PETROLEUM ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT CO.,PEDEC,Petroleum,Explorer,Appraise,Develop,Produce,Oil,Gas,NIOC,Iran
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north Drilling Company ::Equipment Page
Petroiran Development Company Home Page
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Welcome to Manufacturing Support & Procurement Kala Naft Company
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Welcome to Pars Oil & Gas Company
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به شما چه اتفاقی می افتد هنگامی که رژیم می افتد؟ ما عکس شما را. میبینیم ضرب و شتم و به شما تیراندازی غیر مسلح و دانشجویان ، زنان و مردان قدیمی. وضع کردن اسلحه خود را. آزادی را انتخاب کنید به جای قتل مردم خود.
و حتی برخی از ژنرالها شما امتناع سفارشات. سوال من دوباره ، چه رخ می دهد تا زمانی که شما بیش از Rafsani طول می کشد؟ ما عکس شما را به شما خواهد شد و تقاضا برای قتل و ضرب و شتم مردم حساب شما. آزادی را انتخاب کنید.
MESSAGE TO BASIJI, REVOLUTIONARY GUARD, ARMY
What happens to you when the regime falls? We have your photos. We see you shooting and beating unarmed students, women and old men. Lay down your arms. Choose freedom instead of murdering your own people.
Even some of your Generals are refusing orders. I ask again, what happens to you when Rafsani takes over? We have your photos and will demand you account for killing and beating your people. CHOOSE FREEDOM.
Similar/same request in News & Events forum?
See the news & events section
The msg is similar but the points are differing.
Please advise. Thank you!
To all Iranians who may Read this
I am an American who has been totally inspired and amazed by your courage and sacrifice. I know full well that we have different religious beliefs, and I hope it doesn't offend you, but I pray for the safety of all of those of you who protest and bravely get information to the rest of the world every day. I also know that my ideas of democracy and freedom may be very different from what you have in your hearts and minds while you are struggling every day in the streets and alleys for the ideals that you call freedom and democracy and that is fine. Everybody in this world has a different view of these ideals, and as long as the people - not the state - choose what these ideals mean then there is no wrong definition. So please do not listen to the fools in my country who claim to know everything and say that you must do this or do that. Fight for what YOU want - fight for the freedoms and rights that your society wants. Don't let your state dictate to you, and don't let other nations dictate to you. The people of my country - overwhelming want one thing for you - that you get what you want - whatever that is.
Please be safe, please have courage, and know that what you are doing has shown the world once again the true definition of "fighting for freedom"
We are Here to "TARJOMEH"
We are here to help!!
If there is anything you need to find in Internet any file and "how to do " let us know.
We all know English/ farsi very well so if you need "TRAJOME" just put it in here and less than 2 min you will have it in farsi!!!!!
Who is down to help in other languages!!!!!
if you need to learn how to make bombs at home I will tell you
We will win
I understand Obama's reluctance to get too deeply involved. We (I am an American) have a spotty history of getting involved in Iran's politics for our own interests, and Iran's government is already trying to claim we're behind the unrest over the election. More involvement by the US, at least right now, would probably hurt the cause more than help it.
Are there any organised DDos attacks people can partcipate in that aren't hosted in Iran? If there is a thread dedicated to this subject please point me in the right direction.
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