Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Highoverlord: According to the authorities, I have commited no legal crimes. That's not what you're asking me is it? I'm surly not going to go into all my stuff here, with an ongoing investigation that I'm apart of, but I will say, I live with alot of guilt. I feel bad I was away from my children so much to work to pay to study to work at the org etc, vicious cycle. I'm sorry I hurt my family mentally and financially. I'm sorry I gave people a bill of sale that was bullshit, but at the time i was buying it too. Other than that, I won't say anymore, to not compromise an on going investigation. I will and have appoligized to my older children for being what can only be described as neglectful when I worked so much to pay for services and donations, and being at the org when I should have been with them. I will appoligized to my two younger children at home for putting us in this BS financial situation for being in the cult, leaving the cult and becoming a victim of fair gaming! I will not apploigize to anyone for speaking to the authorities. I think that's the only way I can right the wrongs.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Some questions have come out of late, and I want to respond. First I didn't know until recently I could file suit against the CoS for a refund. I asked about that during my deposition ( probably not the best time) but they asked me not to until they conducted their investigation. I will comply with their request. I will file suit as soon as I get the go ahead. Some people were speculating about my local VS me using a CA atty. The crimes occoured in CA. I reported in my area, but it was handed over to CA. The only other atty I know in CA id a Scientologist, and I don't think I can use her. Some people are wondering if I'm overly paranoid. The answer is no. If anything, I didn't take fair gaming seriously enough. Remember it doesn't exhist according to the CoS. But none the less, it's happening. As for my finanacial state, which also has become a topic of discussion. I made a seriously good living for many years. Two years without health ins. and being disabled in a house fire kicked my ass! All the typos and such are a result of me teaching myself to type one handed. The CoS was going to "heal" me after my suit was over...yeah F'ing right! My PI suit should be over in Sept, and then I will figure out how I can work again with my limitations. I'm educated and hardworking, just messed up. Do I post for sympathy (also been speculated) no! I just talk too much. That's just me. Anyone who has met me IRL will tell you that. Fuck, for the last 11 yrs all my friends have been scio robots or coworkers. Why did I call out OSA?.....Because they fallow me, yes, I report it. I had to get a tap on my phone, yes finally the calls stopped. I get so much mail from them it doesn't fit in the box, the mailman has to bring it to the door. And today, they messed with me, while I was at a public place with my kids! As for my first husband, yeah he was an ass, but hell, I picked him as my mother used to say. My second hubby, I can't blame him for leaving. This is all alot to swallow. Do I know if I'm doing everything right, NO! I'm trying to. Nobodys perfect, and I'm alot less perfect than most, just trying to make ammends and right wrongs. I am what I am. I'm too old to change or too set in my ways.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Nor should you because you're exactly right FI. You're on target
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. FIN, I think you're are wise not to give out any more personal information - including how many $$ you gave the CoS (sorry Fredric). You owe nobody here any explanations. Ovaries of titanium, woman, you have.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. We have a new baby. My daughter had my first granddaughter 10 pds 2 oz!
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Congratulations on your first grandaughter FI! :cake: I promise not to call you grandma :wink:
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Length? (Only kidding - my wife got grief the other day for not asking when a co-worker called in that his wife had delivered their first...) Congratulations! Will you smack me if I call you 'grandma' at the August raid?
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. You may want to speak to the Postmaster General. You'd be surprised about what kind of things 'mail fraud' and 'tampering with the mail service' constitutes. Yes, federal crime perhaps.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Cugdel: Nah, I won't smack you. I don't hit...LOL...My daughter already called me Granny...that's a bit much...LMAO Baby was 21 1/2 in long! WindandGhost: With all that has happened since the deposition, the SA called me back today.I gave him Grahams contact (that I had previously left on VM), and the I already gave it to the other agent from the other agency, anyway, they want to set up a conference call with me, Graham, both agents and someone from local PD to get this under control now. I don't really want to have to move again. I'm tired of moving and the kids need stability. Hopefully, all the heads involved can figure something out. I'm a bit concerned that school is starting up.... and a side note, I know I need to grow thicker skin! Anons are not the enemy, just on edge with my ever move seemingly known to the scios! I don't like my personal space invaded and my kids are OFF LIMITS!
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Congrats on the new addition, FIN! Please enjoy this time. Relax and bask in the happiness!
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. It sucks we are in different states. I already got pics and she's beautiful, but I'm biased. I'm hoping she decides to move here. She's finished with university and there is a PERFECT job for her here, with her unusual skills and career choice. I would love nothing better than to have a grandbaby around all the time.:hooray:
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Welcome to the club, Grandma. My grandson is 2 and I have a granddaughter on the way. Angl
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Oh, this is good. My tip: don't tell us what they decide. Keep it secret so any naughty scilons get CAUGHT!
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Congrats FormerlyIn!!!!!!!!! Enjoy that new baby.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Excellent news FI. Multi-agency cooperation FTW!
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Many people have asked in forum and PM what is going on with my PI case. Well, today we had the phone mediation that the Judge allowed in his ruling. I was expecting to have to give up a bit, just to settle out of court but it went so far beyond reality, I’m so much more than frustrated! In mediation, both side say what they intend to present to the jury, and what the strengths are in the case. If you’ll remember they provoked a mistrial in June! That was right after the offered me a sum I thought was unfair. I turned it down. I expected today the number to be slightly more than the previous offer but it went down, drastically! During their presentation of the case (the insurance companies side) They stated that they already think they have grounds for an appeal (not telling me what it was) so I guess they are anticipating a loss. They went on to say, that an appeal would mean I wouldn’t see any money for a year or more…My atty says that wrong. Scientology came up… It came up in the context that I was not only involved but I have given testimony to two separate agencies and plan to testify against them. Yes, I did and I Am! This can be brought up to the jury because the Judge ruled that any previous and ongoing court cases can be brought into the mix. Now, I might be able to get Graham or I might have to get the authorities to get a FL atty involved, since it is an on going case, to keep this out. As it stands, We go to trial in mid-Sept! I was hoping it would be resolved today. I was willing to go much lower than the case is worth, but I’m not an idiot. That money would be eaten up in 3 years in medical bills, that’s after everyone gets paid who is already owed, IE a few Dr’s and attys + costs. I know some don’t want to read the drama, but I get so many questions in regards to it, it’s easier to post than to respond to each and every one. I’m one handed typing and it’s not easy.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. You shouldn't say online what you would or wouldn't settle for as they may be reading this. I wish you luck in your case. Remember the only thing you can depend upon from them is that they are always lying and intimidating. I wish you a speedy resolution.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Sweet Holy Jeebus YES! Go back and edit that out, although it's probably too late. But editing it will show some reconsideration of the statement which can show reasonable doubt as to your state of mind when you made the statement.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. I'll edit it, but doesn't matter, it's going to trial.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Doesn't matter. Cases can still be settled in the midst of a trial.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. FIN, the other side are reading this board. The information they have is too specific for them not to be. What they need to take into account is that you are a woman of integrity and courage: - you decided to speak to law enforcement and to give evidence not knowing whether or not you had done anything wrong - you decided to speak to law enforcement and to give evidence even though you knew it was going to make life a hell of a lot more difficult for you - because Scientology doesn't take these things lying down - you decided to speak to law enforcement and to give evidence because it is the right thing to do - you decided to speak to law enforcement and to give evidence - and you continue to honour that decision - because you are not easily pushed around - you decided to speak to law enforcement and to give evidence even though there is no monetary benefit in it for you, or no benefit at all IMO, you need not to fear the Scientology thing being brought up. You look pretty good in that regard, actually. Also, I think you need to apply the same righteous anger that you're applying to strengthen your resolve against Scientology and its henchman to your fight for justice and compensation. Compared to Scientology, these insurers and their lawyers and PI's are small fry. You are a very sympathetic woman, who has been badly injured and who is doing the best she can in hugely challenging circumstances. But your circumstances are changing for the positive already. (No further info provided, but nobody should assume you are desperate any longer.) Lady, your name came up in the Thunderdome and you were spoken of with kindness and respect. If you can get Anonymous on side, any jury, ANY JURY, will love you and want to help you. The lawyers for the other side need to understand that. So, get your mother-fighting righteous anger into gear and stand up for your rights. DEMAND A JURY TRIAL. (I am not your lawyer and do not know your personal circumstances nor the laws in effect in the relevant jurisdictions. This is not professional advice. You should submit any questions you have to your lawyers for advice. Don't trust me. I'm a pretend lawyer. My degrees came from the Disney College for Height-challenged Animated Characters. Srsly.)
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. ^^This! Well stated (as usual), Plups! And FIN: Anon IS on your side!! :flowers:
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. When you say Scientology, or hear the word, you think Tom Cruise, bat shit carzy a- hole. So Fl is a melting pot. I'm afraid the minute they hear Scientology they will go right to Tom Cruise. We are going to a jury trial like it or not. 9 days in Fl! I'm not carzy. I've workled hard even before I was old enough to work hard. The only crime I committed was being stupid.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. It's almost an insult that they want me to settle for peanuts, when I lost the use of my hand and basically my ability to owrk! My kids don't get the luxury of having a Mom that can go play outside wiht them for hours and play ball! They don't get the benifits the older kids had! At 30 something, I shouldn't be this old! My kids shouldn't have to deal with this! I don't lie, and I will tell 100% of the truth on the stand. An I happy were doing a mulligan on the trial, of course not! Will I settle for chump change, NO! That would not be fair to my kids, much less myself. I'll get by until trial, then get to Fl and fight this battle. They had their chance and blew it! I would like to see the atty's for the other side type one handed, take all the meds I take, have the limits I have! they's probably die if they couldn't play golf! Florida here we come.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. That's the FormerlyIn we know and love! :hooray:
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. congradulation, and there are a lot of x scn out there protesting I know of appox 10 in vancover b c
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. formerlyIN, I've been reading this post over the past few days and I want to thank you and praise you for the great work you are doing now. It's hard to believe what you have gone through and how tough nutz you are. You are truly an inspiration. Thank you.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. It’s no secret it’s been one heck of a month or two… A lot of people ask me what’s going on, so I figured I’d give an update. Nothing I’m posting isn’t a matter of public record, and the powers that think they are, already know all this… A new trial date has been firmly set by the Judge (today) for the middle of Sept, but the down side (insurance BS) I have to go 10 days early (per Judge) to get examined again by their docs, on the off chance I had some miraculous improvement in the last 2 ½ months. Really, it’s just a way to place an even further hardship on me, but hey, they have a job to do as my own atty’s do as well. There will be no mistrial this time, the Judge put some heavy rules and punishments in place! No surprise they waited until Sept for the trial, then I have to take the kiddies out of school for 2 ½ weeks… Lawyers! All and all, as stressful as it will be at trial again, and leading up to it, it will bring one thing to a close. I will also have more time to make myself totally available both physically and emotionally, for the authorities. It’s no secret I’ve had a bit too much on my plate of late. On that front, there is progress, but I just can’t say how much or what, just that there is…. I will just end it with those who think they are almighty, are their own worst enemy.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. And ours.:anon: Shredding those with unwarranted self-importance is what we do. It's fun, don't you agree? Good luck in court.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Today I called the school to see how hard it was going to be for me to take the kids out of school for 2 weeks, and they were not very receptive to the idea. Now, I remember when we were kids, being taken out of school for reasons that were much less important, like vacations. My parents used to get our work and take it with us. That’s they way I thought it would go here! I was told that I either have to go to the school board and get permission (I have only a few weeks and school is not in session officially yet!) or if they miss more than 7 days they will fail the quarter and I could be taken to court! What a mess! As if I really want to have to spend so much time so far from home! This all should have been dealt with the first time. Then the fact that I will have to be there for 2 weeks, with the kids, no money, and here find someone, who I don’t know, to care for the pets! The Judge has bent over backwards to pacify the other side! The fact that I have to see their DR’s AGAIN is just plain stupid, it’s only been since June. The fact that I have to go down 10 days prior to the trial and the trial is expected to last 5 days is BS. Sometimes I just want to say screw it, and get on with my life, but that’s not fair to the kids. That’s also exactly what the Insurance company and their attorneys want. This is my two days of ups and downs… I know it will be over in 6 weeks at the longest, but geesh, everything seems to be purposely made harder by the other side! I just hope when I have to testify for the “other case” that things aren’t such a bumbling mess! That one is also out of state!
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. I completely sympathize, imho the schools should work with you. Part of why I am still homeschooling my kids is due to possible absences caused by an out-of-state court case. I too just wish it was done and over with. I wish you the best of luck and truly hope you can get them to accommodate you, at least you're lucky enough to know exactly when you'll be going to court, I wish I did. Angl
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Angl: Thank you. This is round two on the same one. I just wish it was over. I wish I had thought about the home schooling route before this became an issue. Too late now, just going to have to try and talk sence into a system....tired just thinking about it! I also wish you the best with yours.
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. I just wanted to write a quick update. I had a few people worry that I haven't posted. I'm still here, and just fine, just very busy getting kiddies back to school, trying to get them to allow them out for case, handling a few things before hand (security and such), and went to Saturdays protest! It's very crazy right now, hopefully that will change soon. Trying to remove little things so I can tackle the big ones. Few thing going on that involve the deposition that I'm not able to talk about...crazy days ahead...
Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in.. Yay - the feds are still on it, and FormerlyIN is doing okay! Thanks for the update, FIN.
