Discussion in 'Production Studio' started by Durga, May 26, 2011.
Someone has the original of this. Somewhere...
Haven't seen it before..
could try to make something similar to it
Well, I did my best to recreate it. It's not perfect, but as close as I could get in about 2 hours:
Old versions from May 27:
Fireworks Layered PNG: http://www.mediafire.com/?q1sn009yj3f30t9
Updated version with gradients + other fixes (both sources in rar): http://www.mediafire.com/file/hgpl5cqd7g8s5ce/anon-logo.rar
Comparison (using edited May 28 version of reproduction in rar download above):
License: No license, free for public domain. Use and distribute it as you wish. No credit needed, but if you want to give credit, just provide a link to WWP.
Not bad. Pretty spot on. If you put a gradient going across the gold, you'll have matched it pretty nicely. Also, weaken the intensity of the white bevel on the suit just a bit.
Awesome! My only other suggestion would be to thicken the circular lines.... I think the original makes them a little bolder.
Otherwise fucking awesome!
I tried making a rectangle the size of the image, putting a linear gradient on it, and pasting it as a mask on all the gold items grouped, but it wasn't coming out for some reason. I think it would have to have all the gold items grouped and then flattened to work, which I didn't want to do because it would destroy the vectors, so I'll leave that part up to the person using the source. I figured they can size it and edit it how they want and then flatten some of the layers and add the gradient easy enough.
Yeah it's really hard to tell, but I think you're right. It's a shame the original is so small, it was hard making out all the finer details perfectly. I can see the flora in the original has the bevel going all the way to the center of them as well, where mine is just around the edges, so the size of the bevel would need bumped up to maybe 20. As I said above, all the person using the source files has to do is edit any filters they want, group all the gold colored layers, flatten them, slap a diagonal gradient mask over them and it's done. That's IF they even care about it being exact.
I also don't think the font for the "ANONYMOUS" text at the bottom was actually Times New Roman, but I couldn't figure out what it was exactly, and Times matched the closest. You can see some of the serifs Times has are missing from the original. See the top left point of the 'N', their 'O' is wider, and there are no serifs on top of the 'M'.
EDIT: I think the font in the original is actually Book Antiqua.
Or you could just bring it into photoshop and use a layer blending on it, It's not that hard.
It's Times New Roman.
Please export a copy of it as SVG, then we can all mess with it directly in our browsers
I tried a bit of Photoshop with darkroom styles.
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Might be a tad too dark compared to the original, but good initiative.
Ok, yes, I lightened it up a bit.
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Are the stars beveled in the original?
It looks like there is a slight highlight on the stars outline.
Yea the stars are beveled. I think you're confusing them.
What are you wanting to do with it?
Might want to remove the gradient I already had on the blue background and the suit guy, that way whatever gradients you lay on top of the image don't darken or clash with the pre-existing ones. Nice edit though, I didn't think to try using the darkroom styles instead of a mask. Only other issue I see is that it's putting the gradient on the wireframe globe as well, which isn't supposed to be there. Also, the blue bg should have a vertical linear gradient, while the gold items have a diagonal gradient.
But again, it's all about how close you actually want to get it to the original. Personally, I don't think it has to be exactly perfect to the very last detail. It could probably even be edited and improved over the original with a little creativity.
Yeah if you look closely, the stars in the original are beveled all the way to where they meet in the center (just like in the reproduction). It's so hard to see though since the original is so damn small, and zooming in just reveals a bunch of pixelation and compression fractals, so it doesn't help much.
Open it in Photoshop or Fireworks and export the SVG then
You have the source files now, so do whatever you want!
Please igore the above two posts. Michael, good job mate! Takes a real artist to get it done right.
That was a pretty bad critique bro. My first year students can't be more wrong than you were on this.
I guess it all depends on what OP wants to use the thing for. I have done what I can, and so anyone else can shoop away.
BrakTalk did a hugely great job!
Where do we send the bill? LOL.
I bet FREAKE420 would do a great job on it too.
I agree, BrakTalk did some digital miracles here.
I'm not a real artist, so I'll leave it to the real artists like Michael to put the artistry into it. I just draw computer-assisted lines in a program; artists create art. Also, I told him "nice job", didn't mean the posts to sound offensive or belittling. If he took it that way, I apologize. If the rest of you took it that way, I honestly don't care lol.
Oh well. Your first year students could most likely do a better job with the reproduction too. Being 100% self-taught, I'll probably never advance beyond a first year student skill level. Doesn't matter to me, this isn't a competition. If it was, I'm sure I'd probably come in last place.
If you teach, a reproduction like this one might be a good exercise for your students. Maybe you could post the results here. It doesn't require much skill, so it would be a good first year student project. Anyone who can use the pen tool, some auto shapes, and knows a few filters could do it in about 2 hours. Someone with real skill could probably do it better than this in 45 minutes or less; an expert could do it in 30 minutes or less and make it 99.9% exact to the very last pixel.
Added gradients non-destructively, slight tweaks on colors, fixed highlights being too white, fixed floral bevels to match original more closely. Updated PSD and layered PNG files are included in the .rar file.
PSD + (Fireworks) PNG: http://www.mediafire.com/file/hgpl5cqd7g8s5ce/anon-logo.rar
This will be my last edit on this project, it is now final as far as I'm concerned. I followed the suggestions made by the posters here to get it to this point, but apparently when I make suggestions to collaborators, I'm considered an asshole, so I'm done with it.
Thank you to those who provided positive feedback and constructive criticism, as for the rest of you who think I'm an asshole for making suggestions, go DIAF. Also, if you think it sucks, do it yourself.
inb4umadbro; inb4butthurt; inb4faggot; inb4yousuck
I think it is gorgeous.
Huge thnx to both you and Michael.
It looks like a slight lighting effect on the original could be added. Please export it to .svg format (Pretty sure photoshop can export that) so people with no photoshop can work on it, only .png and .psd are in that rar archive.
It isn't an option in Photoshop or Fireworks CS5. Apparently you need plugins which I don't have. I'll see if I can get them. You can do it with Illustrator, but I can't get them to export out of PS or FW to .eps or .ai for Illustrator properly. They open in Illustrator as a blank canvas for some odd reason. I can't guarantee that any resulting SVG images will export properly with all layers and styles intact either.
Edit: "SVG Kit" plugin for Photoshop allows importing and exporting SVG files to and from PS CS5, however it costs $99 to buy. I just downloaded a 60-day trial of the plugin, so we'll see if it works without doing some stupid watermarking shit or something somehow.
Edit 2: Free trial of SVG Kit only works for Adobe InDesign. Sorry, I'm all out of options :/
Sigh. Thanks for trying though. I tend to start in Inkscape from the beginning when working on something myself. ArtWeaver can import .psd but also doesn't export to .svg
Got it in Illustrator, uploading to Mediafire and will have the link soon.
Here you go (725 kB): http://www.mediafire.com/file/3jjqyf1ij0pa796/anon.svg
Thank you! Here's the .svgz version (531.2 kB): http://imgh.us/anon.svgz
Oh wow, I didn't check the source of that svg before reuploading.
It's just a binary data:image/png embedded via <image> into the svg. No vectors to play with :/
The one I uploaded doesn't have any layers either as far as I could tell. I never could find a way to get the SVG to come out right
Probably the only way would be to buy a $99 plugin :/
this one should be a proper SVG:
using inkscape "trace raster" function
however I had to nuke the gradients to get it to vectorize properly
and I'm an utter n00b at inkscape, so wasn't able to add gradients back in.
Not totally satisfied with the outcome, but in case its any use:
Hey BrakTalk, I was not offended in any way at all. In fact I only give you props for your mad skillz and willingness. Awesome epic win results! I take my hat off 2 U.
My tiny attempt at filters was just a curiosity I wanted to try out. Great job, BrakTalk!
I wonder what OP wants it for?? LOL
Thanks! I'm glad you weren't offended, seeing how some others interpreted it as such. I also wonder what they want it for. I guess we shall (possibly) see.
Awesome work! I can't shake the feeling that the font in the new version is just slightly off, but it really doesn't matter anyway. Thanks for putting so much time into this.
SO, why do you need it?
Choose a color via Color picker or click the predefined style names!