Village Voice under attack from NY Times, facts falsified

Discussion in 'Media' started by Anonymous, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. Anonymous Member

    Agreed. Smart move. Backpage has nothing to do with the papers anyways, so separation made sense. And if the owner wants to keep it - good for him. Freedom of speech and all.
  2. Anonymous Member

    Thank you, the poster's inference- I now understand.
    I thought my memory was seriously failing me.
  3. Anonymous Member

    Where did Phil go? I'm disappoint. Come back Phil. Talk to us. We will be nice[r than usual].
  4. Anonymous Member

  5. Anonymous Member

    Phil's off making a blog post about how wwp supports human trafficking?
  6. Anonymous Member

    Yeah, we're bad. Some [cough...Scientology] even say that we are terrorists.
  7. Anonymous Member

    <shatner>You. have. no clue. who the. founders of the. Village Voice. were, do you?</shatner>

    You probably mean the founder of the company that eventually bought the Village Voice, which was founded by completely different people years before?

    Are you just repeating something that some other sloppy piece-of-crap writer wrote elsewhere?
  8. Anonymous Member

    You prostitution abolitionist can never get the facts straight.

    Michael Lacey founded Phoenix New Times, went on to become the founding paper of the New Times Media group. NTM brought Village Voice Media and assumed this name. Lacey is the founder of VVM, whichever way you twist it. It also doesn't matter. Lacey's the boss, who's keeping BP and dropping all the struggling newspapers. How can Kristof in a soon to be obselete newspaper compete with leggy good looking intellectual women in RT on youtube?
  9. Anonymous Member

    Phil Cendella, would regularly post Bruce McMahan Daily Cannibal Black PR. with disregard of the source.
  10. The Wrong Guy Member

    Jim Lynch has surfaced again, as mentioned at the end of Tony Ortega's latest article:


    And finally, we have some news from Los Angeles. Earlier today, this man, Jim Lynch, showed up at the house of former Scientologist Karen de la Carriere.

    Lynch is an ex-journalist who now works for Scientology’s propaganda magazine, Freedom. He’s a blunt instrument that the church sends out when it wants to bludgeon people with inane questions.

    There's more at
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  11. DeathHamster Member

  12. Anonymous Member

    Pisses me off.

    I think Karen is a bit of a moonbat, but I respect her tell-all thread on Clambake verrrry much. that they would pull this after she sacrificed her son to the folly...RAEG!!!
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  13. anon walker Moderator

    I would answer the door with
    1. A DM head cutout on a stick (for photo ops)
    2. Airhorn-in-a-can. Every time he opens his yap on your porch, blast him.
    3. Record everything
    4. ?????
    5. PROFIT!!!1!!!
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  14. Anonymous Member

    Jim Lynch is such a clown. Is that a serious question he is asking? "What is your comment on Tony Ortega calling Marty's house a half-house"? I mean what had Karen go to do with what Tony says? Should Lynch be seeking a comment from Marty himself or Tony? Plus, in such a time of crisis for Scientology, that's the question that CoS finds so crucial that they needed to send Lynch and two thugs to protect him?
  15. muldrake Member

    The difference between Jim Lynch and a two-bit whore is there are some things a two-bit whore won't do.
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  16. Anonymous Member

  17. Anonymous Member

    So how much do you think Lynch is getting from Scientology? I mean he is not a Scientologist himself. Although, I bet they did ask him to be sec-checked on e-meter. Damn, I wish they'd sec check me. I'm always up for new experiences. I know how to make a lie detector go crazy. I wonder if I can do the same with e-meter.
  18. Anonymous Member

    If you can fool a polygraph, Scientology's 25 experiments in 1 kit shouldn't present a problem.
  19. Anonymous Member

    Fooling a polygraph is easy. You just can't let the needle show that anything you say is true, i.e. you gotta come out a liar on all the control questions. For example, when they ask you your name or age, you gotta have disturbing enough images in your head [such as XXX porn, dead puppies, BattleField Earth] so that when you state your name correctly, the needle will show that you're lying. If you come out as a liar on all of the control questions, they can't establish what is true and what is not on a more serious topics.
    They say that inflicting pain on yourself also works. Like biting your tongue for example. So when answering the question the needle will be going crazy, but not because you're lying, but because you're in pain.
  20. The Wrong Guy Member

    This press release is somewhat related to this thread:

    Whose RedBook? Why Everyone Should be Concerned By the Seizure of MyRedBook.Com

    By Nadia Kayyali, Electronic Frontier Foundation

    Last week, an online community for sex workers disappeared from the Internet. Visit,, or right now, and you’ll only find the seals of the law enforcement agencies — the FBI, the DOJ, and the IRS — that seized the sites as part of a prostitution and money laundering investigation.

    The seizure is part of a disturbing trend of targeting sex workers, but more than that, it is an attack on the rights to free speech and free association exercised by a diverse group of people, many of whom have nothing to do with the alleged crimes.

    MyRedBook and its companion sites served a large and diverse community of sex workers. The sites functioned as social media platforms, with discussion boards for users in topics from politics to financial tips. It also served as a resource guide with information ranging from explanations of the law as it pertains to sex work to health information. For archived versions of the forums sex workers no longer have access to, click here.

    These sites were essential tools for First Amendment protected speech and association—especially important for a community that values its privacy for a variety of legitimate reasons. This platform has been pulled out from under the feet of this community. As the Bay Area Sex Worker Outreach Project (SWOP) said in a statement:

    Today we also lost extensive online forums for a community of sex workers to keep each other safe, screen clients, and blacklist predators. Myredbook also hosted resource guides for sex workers who were struggling and created a venue for community counseling for those in need. Many local outreach organizations used this forum to connect with vulnerable sex workers.

    To compound the destruction of this indispensible forum, the users of these sites now have cause to worry that their private information, such as IP addresses, phone numbers, and email addresses, may be in the hands of the FBI. In fact, news reports specifically note: “[FBI]Agents seized several boxes of evidence … including business documents and computer hardware.”

    SWOP spokesperson Kristina Dolgin put it mildly when she said, “It’s a very scary thing.”

    EFF has always supported freedom of association and free speech, no matter who is doing the talking. In fact, these rights are especially important for controversial groups. That’s why we are so concerned to see these sites shut down — especially on the heels of the bank account closures of sex workers nationwide.

    It’s true that in many states, some forms of sex work are illegal. But sex workers have First Amendment rights to speak out about the issues that concern them, to advocate for changes in the law, to counsel each other, to discuss the issues that are important to them, and to advertise legally permissible services. And sex workers have First Amendment rights to associate with each other on Internet forums and elsewhere.

    As society changes, its values and laws change as well. But the oppression of disfavored groups uses the same tactics. Today, sex workers are being oppressed, but it will be a different group tomorrow. When we allow any group to be silenced and targeted, we are paving the way for it to happen again.

    EFF is keeping an eye on what happens in the case, and the ripple effect in the sex worker community as the criminal charges associated with this seizure move forward. In the meantime, we’ve compiled a list of resources and strategies sex workers can use to protect their anonymity.

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  21. rickybobby Member

    Don't they have bigger fish to fry, ffs?
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  22. The Wrong Guy Member

    After more than 60 years, The Village Voice folds

    The Village Voice, the country's first alternative newsweekly which offered New Yorkers local news and classified ads for decades, will cease production and lay off approximately half its staff, the newspaper's owner announced Friday.

    By Oliver Darcy, CNN, August 31, 2018


    "This is a sad day for The Village Voice and for millions of readers. The Voice has been a key element of New York City journalism and is read around the world," owner Peter Barbey said in a statement. "As the first modern alternative newspaper, it literally defined a new genre of publishing."

    "Although the Voice will not continue publishing, we are dedicated to ensuring that its legacy will endure to inspire more generations of readers and writers to give even more speed to those same goals," Barbey added. "We have begun working to ensure that the enormous print archive of The Village Voice is made digitally accessible.

    The Village Voice was founded in 1955 and became a staple in local New York City journalism. It was awarded three Pulitzer Prizes and recognized with other journalism awards.

    The paper leaves behind a long history of publishing the works of legends in the journalism and literary world, including one of its co-founders, Norman Mailer. The publication also served as the primary hub for the work of Wayne Barrett, the late New York City muckraker whose early reporting on Donald Trump took on new life during the 2016 election.

    The Village Voice struggled in recent years. The climate for local newspapers has grown hostile as revenue from print advertisements dwindled. The Village Voice, which also relied on its classified ads section for revenue, faced increased competition.

    In April 2017, the Village Voice halted its print production and went entirely online. The move was aimed at reinvigorating the more than half-century old publication.

    But it wasn't enough. On Friday, readers and employees lamented the newspaper's ultimate fate.

    Friend just turned in his news piece, was told by his editor there was good news: He's the journalist with the last news story to appear in the Voice," tweeted Valerie Vande Panne, a freelance journalist who has written for The Village Voice. "That's also, the editor said, the bad news."


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