Re: French Convictions: Media Deluge BBC - Scientologists convicted of fraud A French court has convicted the Church of Scientology of fraud, but stopped short of banning the group from operating in France. Two branches of the group's French operations and its leader in France have been fined, reports say. The case centred on a complaint by a woman who says she was pressured into paying large sums of money after being offered a free personality test. The Church denied that any mental manipulation took place. France regards Scientology as a sect, not a religion and prosecutors had asked for the group's French operations to be dissolved. Instead, a judge ordered the Church's Celebrity Centre and a bookshop to pay a 600,000 euro (£544,000) fine, AFP news agency reported. Alain Rosenberg, the group's head in France, was handed a two-year suspended jail sentence and fined 30,000 euros, the report said.
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in IANAL, but usually the sentence is applied if the person is sentenced another time. So the final count is old sentence + new sentence.
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in Another victim needs to come forth, would that count if the victimization took place before this ruling?
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in There is another verdict to watch for today (Oct. 27): the "Angolagate" case (aka the "Mitterrand-Pasqua affair"), in which Georges Fenech, chairman of MIVILUDES, is one of the defendants, charged with having received 15,200 euros in 1997 from Brenco. The verdict is not in yet. Sentences due in 'Angolagate' trial | France 24
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in I like the BBC report: BBC NEWS | Europe | Scientologists convicted of fraud - links to xenu.net Suggest anyone who can ring their local Org today, and ask if they've heard about the story. pwned by the French... can it get any worse for Scientology?
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in BBC commentator and press articles are making the point that the cult was not banned because of a legal loophole....from the BBC BBC
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in Bravo France! Who says the French hate Americans? They've just given us tremendous inspiration to get on with our own prosecutions of the criminal cult. Merci, French Courts. [/SIZE]
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in In the side bar the "opposition to scientology" link goes to xenu-directory.net , which is great because it is a far better resource than the stale xenu.net main site. The BBC for the last few articles on scientology have used that link for their standard balance of external source. Nice report. The AP, AFP, Reuters feeds are spreading well too.
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in Everyone call your local orgs, pretend to be a concerned citizen and tell them you were interested in checking out $cientology but now you are worried because you heard that $cientology has been convicted of organized fraud.
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in Journailst and author of Infinite Complaceny blog, Jonny Jabosen, gives us details on the convictions...... Infinite Complacency: The Court's Ruling More later. My tl;dr summary: 1. GUILTY Alain Rosenberg - 2 years prison (suspended) 30,000E fine *+ 2. GUILTY Didier Michaux - 18 months Prison (suspended) 20,000E fine * 3. GUILTY Jean-François Valli - 18 months Prison (suspended) 10,000E fine * 4. GUILTY Sabine Jacquart - 10 months Prison (suspended) 5,000E fine *+ 5. GUILTY Aline Fabre - 2,000E fine ~ 6. GUILTY Marie Anne Pasturel - 1,000E fine ~ 7. GUILTY Celebrity Centre - 400,000E fine *. Ordered to publish judgment. 8. GUILTY Scientology Bookstore - 200,000E fine *. Ordered to publish judgment. * = organized fraud + = complicity in the illegal exercise of pharmacy ~ = illegal exercise of pharmacy
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in JohnnyRUClear is the first loser of this thread! Congratulations Johnny, if anyone here could find a silver lining of tinfoil it would be you.
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in So the French courts will just keep prosecuting and fining them for new crimes of fraud? If so, then Scientology is going to be loosing tons of cash in France as long as they continue to operate there assuming new complaints of their activities arise.
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in Pulling together from various sources: Celeb Centre - 400,000 SEL Library - 200,000 Rosenberg - 30,000 ?? - 20,000 ?? - 5,000+ ?? - 5,000 ?? - 2,000 ?? - 1,000 = 663k Euros = 986K USD (The 5,5,20 comes from a 'three others were given fines ranging from 20k to 5k - but I can't find it again now.)
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in This is lovely. scientology is having the worst week ever. lol
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in ^Look up a little^ http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-...ty-french-trial-verdicts-55238/7/#post1043743
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in my heart won't stand another 5 day run like this one! btw the fines total >1,000,000 CAN$..
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS BIT ".....and ordered to pay for the details of the conviction to be published in the major French and English-language news outlets including Le Monde, Le Figaro, Libération, the Herald Tribune and Time Magazine." Lets see how they deny this happened when confirmation will have been issued by the Cult itself ...
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in I go away for a few months and look what happens. This made my morning. (That and the whole Paul Haggis story.) a
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in It is actually the top two stories (above the main story) on Drudge right now. They both link to two different articles on Yahoon world news. the lower article has a GF mask in the background French court fines Scientologists, allows operations - Yahoo! News In case anyone missed it because it looks like they are both the same article. Church of Scientology convicted of fraud in France - Yahoo! News
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in FUCK YEAH on the Illegal Pharma verdicts. If that doesn't go on every Anti-Purif page on the Net, I shall be most disappointed. French courts - Doin' it for the LULZ
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in I have stalagtites on the ceiling above my bed after all this win
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in This just in: Riverside Board of Supervisors have passed a resolution unanimously condemning the court for its religious bigotry and have made it illegal for a French Judge to be within 50 feet of Riverside County.
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in Looking at Church of Scientology convicted of fraud in France - Yahoo! News it lists the story as the #2 (French court fines Scientologists, allows operations - Yahoo! News) and #4 (itself) read stories in the world at the moment. Also just popped up as the #5 most read story in the world on the BBC News website. Win. I predict an imminent shortage of French flags in the vicinity of all Orgs worldwide over the next day or so.
Re: Verdict: GUILTY! French trial verdicts are in muahahahahahaha "Spokeswoman for the Church of Scientology Danielle Gounord speaks to the media after a hearing at Paris court October 27, 2009. A Paris court on Tuesday fined the French branch of the Church of Scientology a total of 600,000 euros ($902,200) after finding it guilty of fraud but allowed the group to continue operating in France. REUTERS/Jacky Naegelen"
