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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tachanka, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. A.O.T.F Member

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    I want to see a lot more of this.

    Russia, needs to back the fuck off. USA, Needs to back the fuck off. Too much interference is going to worsen the process. Not make it better.
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  2. Watcher Member

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  3. White Tara Global Moderator

    Outsider awareness/scrutiny, and outside interference are two distinctly different things. The former I am all for, the latter, hell no.
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  4. Den Eternal Member

    Ukrainian Red Cross refused to aid the Maidan.

    Thirty dead bodies found in morgues in Kiev
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  5. Den Eternal Member

    Painter Valery Brezdenyuk - yesterday killed in the storming Maidan
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  7. White Tara Global Moderator

    RIP Valery Brezdenyuk

    Every name of every individual is important.
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  8. Anonylemmi Member

    Freedom is never free. It is bought at a very heavy price. I hope everyone knows what price they may pay for going into the Maidan. I hope you win.
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  9. Watcher Member

    I used the word "interference" because that was the word used in the post I responded to and I used quotation marks to show this. Being aware of, or scrutinizing a situation isn't going to change it. If we see a wrong, be it an assault, or kidnapping, or political cause, would we scrutinize it or get involved aka interfere? Getting involved is interference. It's not enough to simply care anymore. People have to get involved and interfere in righting the wrongs we see. Isn't that why we are all here? An activist acts. And they are usually on the outside looking in.
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  10. White Tara Global Moderator

    You are correct of course, I was more hinting at political self interested interference of outsiders
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  11. Watcher Member

    Ahh, I agree with you there Tara. Russia's "interference" is definitely self serving :)
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  12. Watcher Member

    Not to change the subject here ;) but is anyone else watching the mediaite site? It almost looks like the protestors are cleaning up? The fires are gone, barricades and most tents look taken down. The people seem to be walking around in a very calm manner. Or am I just imagining this? And hoping.
  13. Den Eternal Member

    The offensive began. Police flees in panic. Some military (internal troops) took the side of the people
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  14. Den Eternal Member

    Is confirmed another death
  15. White Tara Global Moderator

    Its a very significant thing, the Military beginning to side with the people.
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  16. Den Eternal Member

    Titushki forwarded to the center of Kiev.
  17. Den Eternal Member

    Parliament evacuated.
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  18. Den Eternal Member

    Activists approach the Parliament
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  19. Den Eternal Member

    Snipers opened fire - killed five people
  20. Den Eternal Member

    Police give weapons - will slaughter
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  22. Watcher Member

    Looks like they showed about 6 dead, what I assume were police officers.

    Is the military with the people approaching the parliament? I don't understand what the people on the mediaite site are saying. :(
  23. Den Eternal Member

    Shoot SVD (Dragunov sniper vinotovka) - four confirmed murders
  24. Anonylemmi Member

    I do not know if people are listening to you, but tell them not to waste lives. Resist, but do it as wisely as possible. Live to fight tomorrow. My frustration is painful. I am half a world away and can only watch. I don't even have money to donate. I have never felt so useless.
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  25. Den Eternal Member

    Lish part of military gone over to the the people. Among those killed only protesters. Represent a threat to the police and titushki. (sorry my english)
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  26. Watcher Member

    Don't apologize for your English Den. It's a million times better than my Ukrainian or Russian which is none at all :p

    Glad to see you are ok Den
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  27. Den Eternal Member

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  28. Den Eternal Member

    First captive police
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  29. Den Eternal Member

    Three killed outside the hotel Cossack
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  30. Den Eternal Member

    Military sent in the center of Kiev (hopefully to them, unlike the police, be wise enough not to shoot people)
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  31. Watcher Member

    Den, will the captured police be allowed to live? Killing them now will only hurt your cause.
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  36. mip Member


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  37. Den Eternal Member

    –°onfirmed 11 deaths
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  38. Den Eternal Member

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  39. Den Eternal Member

    Nobody is going to kill police, we are not animals.
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  40. Den Eternal Member

    Only part of the military over to the side people
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