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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tachanka, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. Bozhkov Denis Member

    Photos. Last journey of tankman

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  2. Bozhkov Denis Member

    Defenders of Donetsk Airport

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    Ride Mustang in Donetsk Airport



    Trailer of the documentary of the zone ATO

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    Fatalities among in Ilovaisky boiler

    Destruction of Russian armored car
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    And some music


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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...r-europe-or-just-testing-nato-s-defenses.html
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    Are Russian Bombers Flying Nuclear Drills Near Europe—Or Just Testing NATO’s Defenses?
    Nuclear-capable Russian bombers are flying over the North Sea and the Atlantic. And U.S. Air Force officers are very concerned at what could be a rehearsal of a deadly mission.
    Russian bombers may be flying nuclear strike drills over the Atlantic Ocean and North Sea, current and former U.S. Air Force officers believe. At the very least, these officers tell The Daily Beast, the Russian Air Force is aggressively probing what NATO calls European airspace in an effort to gauge the reaction times of the western alliance’s defenses.
    Since Oct. 28, NATO air defenses have detected and monitored four groups of Russian combat aircraft over the Baltic Sea, North Sea, Atlantic Ocean, and Black Sea. Norwegian F-16 fighters intercepted one particular group of Russian aircraft on Oct. 29 that included four, nuclear-capable Tupolev Tu-95 Bear H strategic bombers and four Ilyushin Il-78 aerial refueling tankers. Once intercepted, six of the Russian aircraft headed for home while the two remaining Tu-95 bombers continued southwest, parallel to the Norwegian coast, before eventually turning back towards Russia.
    The giant, propeller-driven Tu-95 is a launch platform for the 1,600 nautical mile range Raduga Kh-55 nuclear-tipped cruise missile. The weapon carries a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead; by comparison, the bomb that destroyed Nagasaki was a mere 21 kilotons. Some active-duty and retired U.S. Air Force officials told The Daily Beast that the Tu-95s might have been flying to certain predetermined launch points for their nuclear missiles.
    “That could certainly be the case,” said retired Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deptula, the service’s influential former intelligence chief. “It is not farfetched that at some point within the next two years [Russian President Vladimir] Putin makes a more aggressive move in Eastern Europe and uses a nuclear threat to deter a NATO response.”
    Of course, every nuclear capable air force runs exercises to practice its so-called “strategic deterrence.” It’s the pace and scale of these current flights that have military observers concerned.
    “Our bomber crews regularly fly training sorties for their full range of potential missions, including strategic deterrence practice missions,” Mark Gunzinger, a former B-52 pilot and current air power analyst the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, said. “[The Russian Air Force] has never stopped flying training sorties, but it’s apparent that the scope of this one is catching people’s attention.”
    Asked if at least some of these flights were nuclear drills, Gunzinger responded, “that is probably the case.”
    The giant, propeller-driven Tu-95 is a launch platform for the Raduga Kh-55 nuclear-tipped cruise missile, which carries a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead. By comparison, the bomb that destroyed Nagasaki was a mere 21 kilotons.
    Another former Air Force officer—one with extensive experience with Russian tactics—cautioned not to interpret either the European or Alaskan flights too darkly. “A probe to test western responses, yes,” the former officer wrote in an email. “More activity than in the recent past, yes. Nuclear strike rehearsal, unlikely. Capabilities are easy to measure. Intent is not.”
    Analyst Rebecca Grant, president of IRIS Independent Research, said that the recent display of Russian air power was just another provocation in a long line of similar antagonistic moves by Russia. The Russian strategic bomber foray into the Atlantic is also reminiscent of a September incident where two nuclear-capable Tu-95s bombers, two Il-78 tankers and two MiG-31 Foxhound fighters were intercepted near Alaska.
    “This reminds me of the exercises Russia has been flying in the Pacific for a few years now, just transferred to the European theater,” Grant said. “I don’t read this as a specific nuclear or conventional scenario practice, rather an exercise in long-range navigation and provocation. It’s clearly designed to annoy NATO but from a purely tactical perspective, this was still a pretty small display of airpower.”
    Another former Air Force F-4G and F-15E electronic warfare officer said that there simply is not enough information to be certain of what the Russians’ intentions are. “It could be anything,” said Michael Pietrucha. “There’s nothing wrong with long range training sorties because they allow you to work out the kinks for a variety of missions.”
    Nonetheless, the foray into European airspace by the Tu-95 Bear bombers is cause for concern. That’s not just because of the Bear bomber’s long-range nuclear weapons capability, but also because of the Russian’s general disregard for international air traffic norms. Not only did the Russians not file a proper flight plan, they also did not have active transponders—which would allow civilian air traffic controllers to see them. The situation could lead to a serious accident where an airliner might collide with a Russian bomber.

    “It’s alarming, especially, that they would fly without their transponder on particularly when they’re certain to fly on or cross an a multitude of international air routes,” one Air Force bomber pilot told the Daily Beast. “The interrogative capability of most modern airline and transport carrier transponders rely on the transmission of other transponders to ensure positive deconfliction.”
    The airspace over the Atlantic is especially busy with a lot of airliner traffic. The U.S. bomber pilot acknowledged that the U.S. Air Force also conducts long-range bomber patrols, but American aircraft always follow proper flight procedures and other regulations.
    “I’ve flown on the west of Portugal, it was a busy place to fly because a lot of air routes funnel into the Med [Mediterranean] there,” the bomber pilot said. “The U.S. does what are called ‘global power’ missions on occasion, but never without squawking, or talking, or filing flight plans, and we rarely seek to draw an escort.”
    In addition to the strategic bomber patrols in the Atlantic, the Russian Air Force also flew another bomber mission over the Black Sea on Oct. 29 with two Tu-95 Bears, which were escorted by two Sukhoi Su-27 air superiority fighters.
    The Russian Air Force also flew additional sorties over the Baltic Sea with tactical strike fighters on Oct. 29. Portuguese F-16 fighters assigned to protect the Baltic states—which belong to NATO—intercepted a group of two MiG-31 interceptors, one Su-27 fighter and two pairs of Su-34 and Su-24 fighter bombers. The same group of Russian jets was intercepted on the previous day.
    No matter what the intent of the specific flight, the larger goal—a re-introduction of Russian military might into Europe—is clearly working, a senior U.S. military officer told The Daily Beast.
    “It certainly demonstrates their effort to re-assert themselves in the region and regain their past form,” this official added. “It appears to be successful, certainly from the standpoint that Russian airpower has re-entered the conversation and our NATO allies have had to respond to their incursions. It strikes me as destabilizing.”
    The U.S. Air Force would not officially comment on the matter and deferred all queries to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. The Pentagon did not return calls for comment.
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  11. Bozhkov Denis Member

    http://www.latimes.com/world/great-reads/la-fg-c1-ukraine-airport-20141028-story.html#page=1
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    UKRAINE FIGHTERS, SURROUNDED AT WRECKED AIRPORT, REFUSE TO GIVE UP

    Only three floors remain in the blackened skeleton of the seven-story, glass-walled airport terminal, opened with a burst of national pride two years ago for the Euro 2012 soccer championship.

    Ukrainian commandos control two of them: the ground and second floors.

    The pro-Russia separatists they're fighting have infiltrated the third floor despite entrances barricaded with debris and booby traps. The separatists have also found a way into the basement, with its system of narrow passageways leading beyond the airport grounds.

    They are enemies sharing the same building, playing a claustrophobic game of cat and mouse in shadowy rooms and burned-out boarding jetways.

    Just after midnight on a recent night, a separatist fighter suddenly appeared on a balcony of the third floor and shot a Mukha grenade down at the onetime departure lounge where the Ukrainian troops were trying to sleep on cold concrete floors.

    The grenade hit a wall and exploded. Shrapnel and debris flew everywhere. Without thinking, a commando nicknamed Batman threw a hand grenade toward the balcony. But it exploded short of its target and sent more shrapnel showering over his comrades.

    The shouting had barely subsided when a commander announced that government Grad missiles were on the way to hit enemy positions surrounding the terminal.

    "You know how they do it!" the commander shouted. "They'll certainly miss. So run for cover."

    A few seconds later, the building shook from the explosion right outside, and for a moment it seemed that the structure would finally collapse. But it withstood the blast, and no one was hurt in any of the attacks.

    After five months of fighting, the battle between government forces and pro-Moscow separatists in eastern Ukraine has reached what may be its last stand in this shattered commercial airport that once held families waiting for holiday flights.

    It has little strategic value, but it has become a symbol of the struggle over Ukraine's future.

    "Today for us the future of our country depends on whether we will be able to hold on to this airport or not," said Alexei Varitsky, 20, a former construction worker who recently joined the Ukrainian militia that's helping to defend the airport. "That is why I am here."

    The name once shone in white above the gleaming new terminal: Donetsk Sergey Prokofiev International Airport, named after the 20th century composer who was born in the region.

    At the opening ceremony in May 2012, then-President Viktor Yanukovich paid tribute to its modern accouterments, as if it were proof of Ukraine's growing international status.

    "At the beginning of the 1930s, the constructors of this airport had no idea what a high-technology site it would grow into," he said.

    Today, the pro-Russia Yanukovich is no longer president. He was ousted this year in a revolution that led to Russia's annexation of the Crimean peninsula and armed revolts in eastern Ukraine, also reportedly sponsored by the Kremlin.

    On the airport's English-language website, a bulletin reads: "Notice for passengers: Donetsk airport has been temporarily suspended. An up-to-date information regarding the status of flights is available on the official website Online Timetable." Would-be passengers clicking on "All Flights Today" are met with a blank space.

    The airport's runway is littered with the carcasses of tanks and armored personnel carriers. In the new terminal, every pane of glass has shattered; every door, wall and ceiling has been pierced with bullets and shrapnel.

    The separatist forces surrounding the airport shell it with mortar and artillery fire day and night; at least once a day, infantry forces move in for an attack. The defenders said that in the previous two weeks, 12 soldiers were killed and scores were wounded at the airport.

    Some government forces say they're digging in to prevent Russians from using the runways to land transport planes loaded with armaments. Some say they need to defend the airport as a sign of resolve against Russian aggression.

    "I volunteered to come here because if I hadn't, some soldier might not have been replaced and that would have prolonged his misery or could have even killed him," said Sergei Halan, 20, a journalism student from Cherkasy. "I just did it to save a comrade I may not know, as he will do for someone else, or even for me."

    Halan's estranged father is a colonel in the Russian army. When they last spoke on the phone, Halan said, his father asked him, "'Don't you know you will be killing your brothers?' To which I said, 'I didn't invite these brothers to come to my homeland with arms.' "

    They are hunters and prey at the same time.

    Because of their perseverance and ability to survive despite being surrounded, the government forces' enemies call them cyborgs.

    Some of the terminal's defenders call themselves terminators.

    "The whole scene very much reminds me of a computer shooting game, with the exception that you don't kill goblins so easily and that you don't have an extra life or two," said Varitsky, the former construction worker, a wiry man in a U.S.-style uniform and NATO-like helmet. "I'm kind of OK with what we do here, although I could never for the life of me imagine before that I can kill other people."

    In April, when the army told him it didn't have time to train him, Varitsky joined the nationalist Right Sector organization. He went through a rushed training session, was issued a Kalashnikov and a week ago arrived at the airport with a ragtag group of 15 Right Sector men who are supporting an army unit consisting mostly of airborne troops who volunteered for the high-risk mission.

    Every newcomer is told that the airport is not a besieged fortress — not because it is not besieged, but because it is not a fortress, "as holes in the walls account for more space than the rest of the structure," said Maj. Valery Rud, who is in charge of mining and de-mining the building.

    "There is not a single place where bullets or shrapnel cannot reach you at any given time of the day. The terminals we are holding on to are weaker than the Three Little Pigs' houses, and it is a miracle that they are still standing."

    The defenders are armed with an assortment of Soviet-era small arms, mostly Kalashnikov machine and submachine guns, and are dressed in all kinds of uniforms, helmets and jackets supplied by volunteers or issued by the army.

    During the day, generators feed small laptops and charge telephones. At night, radios and flashlights are switched off, and it's forbidden to use even cigarette lighters lest it draw sniper fire.

    At night the temperatures inside fall below zero and constant, merciless drafts chase coughing and sneezing soldiers. A paramedic sits in front of a small hill of medicines looking for the right cold drug for the suffering men.

    "Well, why don't you unfasten your helmet strap?" he told the coughing young soldier in front of him. "If a sniper sends a bullet into your helmet, [the strap] will break your neck and you won't need any medicines anymore, sonny."

    The soldier undid the strap.

    The Ukrainian troops may lack proper training, but at times they display courageous initiative.

    As troops were getting ready to unload an armored convoy bringing drinking water and ammunition — an operation that always draws intense fire from the separatists — two soldiers decided it was time to send "the tank man" home.

    The tank man had died in a fierce battle a week earlier outside the terminal. Although they had retrieved the bodies of his two comrades, they hadn't been able to reach him. It bothered them that he was still there.

    Risking their lives in the crossfire that ensued when the transport convoy arrived, the two young men ran out onto the tarmac and retrieved the charred remains.

    "We had to do it for this tank man," said one of the men, who identified himself only as Slavik, after he had reached the relative safety of the terminal. "The guy was a hero. He deserves to be identified and buried properly."

    One morning, gunfire rattled inside the terminal. Bullets whizzed by, hitting walls and the floor around the defenders. It was coming from a disabled jetway.

    A moment later, it was over. A commander nicknamed Rakhman stood outside the terminal near the jetway. He looked at the smoking gun in his hand.

    "I loaded a whole clip into him," he said. "Instead of falling down, he shot back at me and was gone as if he is a cyborg and not me."

    "We need to do something to smoke them out of there," one soldier said.

    But how?

    "The best we could do is blow up what's left of the airport," another said. "Blow up the f— runway and go home."

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  12. Bozhkov Denis Member

    http://en.censor.net.ua/news/309784...s_simulated_countrys_territory_missile_strike
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    Danish Intelligence: Russian Planes Simulated Country’s Territory Missile Strike

    The Military Intelligence of Denmark stated that the Russian planes simulated missile attack on its territory this summer.

    "The Danish military intelligence said that the Russian military aircrafts with full ammo simulated missile attack on the island of Bornholm this summer, hosting at that time a major political festival, attended by more than 90,000 politicians, public figures and journalists," Danyliuk states.
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  13. Bozhkov Denis Member

    Russian convoy entered the Donetsk
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  14. Bozhkov Denis Member

    P.S. In the near future, probably will begin full-scale hostilities.
  15. Bozhkov Denis Member

    The public appeal of Donetsk airport defender, callsign "Marshal", on the OSCE representatives inactivity during the monitoring of ceasefire violation by the DPR (DNR) and LPR (LNR) illegal military groups.

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    Putin walks out of G20 summit early | Al Jazeera

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has left the G20 summit in Australia early, live footage showed, after he came under intense pressure from the West over Moscow's alleged support for separatist fights in eastern Ukraine.

    In unusually frank language between two leaders, Stephen Harper, the Canadian prime minister, was reported to have told Putin as they shook hands to "get out of Ukraine".

    According to Jason MacDonald, Harper's spokesman, the prime minister told the Russian leader: "I guess I will shake your hand but I have only one thing to say to you: You need to get out of Ukraine."

    British Prime Minister David Cameron was among other leaders who publicly criticised Russia, accusing it of "bullying a smaller state in Europe" and warning that Moscow would face further sanctions if it continues "destabilising Ukraine".

    Putin left on Sunday before the final communique from the weekend talks was issued, but attended the annual forum's wrap-up lunch and praised the "constructive discussions".

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    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-...-out-g20-summit-early-201411164322920220.html
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  18. Bozhkov Denis Member

    Exactly one year from the beginning of the maidan.
    It seems only yesterday that everything happened.

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    Ukrainian tank and Russian goblins.

    Ukrainian soldiers under Debaltseve repel the attacks of terrorists.
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  20. Bozhkov Denis Member

    And traditionally a bit of music



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  21. From the good:
    Trying to attack Russian troops once again failed. If you attempt to assault the Donetsk airport were ambushed Russian commandos - 299 killed, 190 wounded Russians (96 with severe injuries). (Information from the Russian group 'Cargo 200')

    Russian special forces 'Vympel' lost 30% of its members.

    Personally came to collect the corpses of Russian Lieutenant-General Alexander Lentsov.

    The total losses of Russian troops - 7232 people without taking into account mercenaries.

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  22. Shadow Theatre Fireflies and Teulis - story of Maidan and story of war.


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  23. And a few photos

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  24. And as always, music


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  25. martajagoda89 Member

    Hi brothers and sister from Ukraine.

    In Poland most of us follow news from Ukraine.
    I would like to ask you how Polish anonymous can help you.
    if there is any way, please contact me direct or on this thread.

    Peace.

    PS. You can use my public key to encrypt your messages (e-mail address in my public key is out of date):
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  26. A.O.T.F Member

    You all do realize, that with every weapon you fire, every round you reload, some fuckwit $$$$billionaire$$$$ arms manufacturer on the other side of the world is rubbing his hands with glee... Right!????


    WAR! Really fucking smart :rolleyes:
  27. The Wrong Guy Member

    Moscow Round Canceled, 13 World Superbike Rounds for 2015

    The World Superbike calendar has been reduced to 13 events. The Russian round of World Superbike, scheduled to be held at the Moscow Raceway on July 5th has been canceled, after the event organizer, YMS Promotion, failed to provide the contract guarantees required by the contract.

    As a further consequence, the Yakhnich Motorsport Team have also lost their slot on the 2015 World Supersport grid, which was tied in with the Russian round.

    The cancellation of the Russian round did not come as a surprise. The Russian World Superbike round is a legacy of the last years of Infront running the series.

    Infront and YMS signed a ten-year deal to organize a World Superbike round in Russia, but continuing political instability in Russia, tensions between Europe and Russia over Ukraine, and murky regional politics have made it impossible to stage a race there.

    The round was placed on the calendar automatically, because of the existing contract, but it was never expected to actually take place.

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    http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wsbk/moscow-round-cancelled-world-superbike-2015/
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  28. meep meep Member

    Gah the pictures look like WW11. I'd like to think we were past that.
  29. The Wrong Guy Member

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  30. Thanks for your help, your People have done a lot for our victory, ask for something more would be effrontery.


    Today's video - probably most accurately reflects the mood today
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  31. Jeff Jacobsen Member

    http://uatoday.tv/politics/presiden...-in-killing-euromaidan-protesters-410787.html

    Petro Poroshenko, President of Ukraine: "The General Prosecutor's Office and Ukraine's Security Services have found a direct link to Russia's part in the shooting of Maidan protesters. Now investigators have access to the records of phone conversations between former President Yanukovych and Russia's Federal Security Service. Together they planned the shootings."
    Poroshenko's comments came on Friday during a ceremony to commemorate the demonstrators who lost their lives. He also said that foreign snipers operating on the square were supervised by Vladislav Surkov, an advisor to Russian president Vladimir Putin.
    Poroshenko's comments came a day after the head of the Ukrainian Security Service said the crimes during Euromaidan last year were not commited by Ukraine's former government alone. Nalyvaichenko said three groups of Russian Federal Security Service generals were invovled.
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  32. A.O.T.F Member


    Politicians. I don't like them, I don't fucking trust them. And I most definitely don't believe a single fucking word that comes from their mouths. Ukrainian or Russian! They're all the fucking same.
  33. The Wrong Guy Member

    Two suspects held over murder of Kremlin critic Nemtsov | Reuters

    Two suspects have been detained over the killing of Boris Nemtsov, Russian officials said, a week after he was shot dead near the Kremlin in the most high-profile killing of an opposition figure in years.

    The Investigative Committee, the state body leading the investigation, named the two men as Anzor Gubashev and Zaur Dadayev. Russian President Vladimir Putin had been informed of the detentions, officials said.

    "The individuals detained are, according to our investigation, involved in the organization and execution of the killing of Boris Nemtsov," the committee said in a statement.

    Russian state-controlled media reported the two were from the Caucasus, a violent and impoverished region on Russia's southern flank. They were expected to be formally arrested at a court hearing in Moscow on Sunday, the reports said.

    Since Nemtsov was shot dead on the night of Feb. 27 as he walked home near Red Square, his friends have said they suspect the Kremlin of involvement. Russian officials deny it.

    Associates of the 55-year-old Nemtsov said they would only be satisfied when whoever masterminded the killing was behind bars, not just the people who carried it out.

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    Many in the liberal opposition believe the Kremlin stood to gain from Nemtsov's killing because it will act as a warning to other Kremlin critics that they should stay silent.

    Some of Nemtsov's friends have asked why the police took so long to arrive at the scene of the crime and how someone could fire six shots at him and get away in an area monitored by closed-circuit television footage.

    Nemtsov's closest aide told Reuters that the day before his death he clandestinely scribbled a note to her about how he was investigating the involvement of Russia's military in fighting in east Ukraine.

    No one has produced any direct evidence the Kremlin had anything to do with Nemtsov's killing.

    More here:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/07/us-russia-crisis-nemtsov-idUSKBN0M30AQ20150307
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  34. The Wrong Guy Member

    US National Guard Troops Are Being Sent To Ukraine

    According to Colonel Michael Foster at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, DC, the US National Guard will be deployed to Ukraine to protect the interests of NATO and the US government.

    “Before this week is up, we’ll be deploying a battalion minus… to the Ukraine to train Ukrainian forces for the fight that’s taking place. What we’ve got laid out is six United States companies that will be training six Ukrainian companies throughout the summer,” Foster said in a statement this week.

    Foster says that US forces intend to stay in the region for at least six months, and that they will be assisting the Ukrainian military.

    http://theantimedia.org/us-national-guard-troops-are-being-deployed-to-ukraine/
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  35. Boris Korczak Member

    As usual we try to establish new colonies and bring "democracy" to the fascist government of Ukraine. (Google "Svoboda Party".
    BK
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  36. So you belive that 7 of 450 seats in the rada is enough to make the whole country "fascist"? ;)

    "Political scientist Andreas Umland predicted the party would continue to become more moderate over time, and that "there's a belief that Svoboda will change, once in the Verkhovna Rada, and that they may become proper national democrats."[ Since then, the party has gained seats in parliament and has net over 10% of the national vote in the 2012 parliamentary elections. The US ambassador in Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, said in 2014 that he had been "positively impressed" by Svoboda's evolution in opposition and by its behavior in parliament. "They have demonstrated their democratic bona fides," the ambassador asserted.[99] Alexander J. Motyl argues that Svoboda's brand of nationalism "has significantly diminished during, and possibly as a result of, the Euro Revolution."
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  38. Boris Korczak Member

    It was Germany and France that brokered the fragile peace in Ukraine without US, and I can't understaand why US is trying so hard to escalete the conflict, sending troops and weapons. How soon will we have in DC a monument for Stepan Bandera and invite members of Svoboda party to visit the White House?
    BK
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  39. Boris Korczak Member

    If someone has 2% of syphilis- he is definately syphilitic.
    BK
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