Really sad. Many leukemias are now curable. Yes, chemo is toxic and secondary cancers are possible, but you can live a normal life. This is why I want the moonbats out of healthcare.
http://www.shaolin.org/chikung/cancure.html http://www.shaolin.org/answers/sp-issues/casting-pearls.html http://www.shaolin.org/general/healers-list.html http://www.shaolin.org/ did anyone see my can of worms? no really, this is my personal cult that affected me and still affects others, i like to call it scientology lite. it was wbm and anon that helped get my critical think muscle working again (with a little help from alexander pope and the stoics to name a few) anyway have fun exploring "Sifu's" paradigm if your bored. Sad to hear about Tommy and his wife. Xeno of Citium
FUCK SCIENTOLOGY AND THEIR SHEEPLE! The more they smoke and die the better for the world... THERE I FUCKIN SAID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Too fucking funny... Amy Scobee's husband, Mat Pesch, in on ESMB claiming to have heard rumor that Shelly Miscavige is in a Southern California hospital being treated for cancer (it wouldn't surprise me.. she was a longtime chain smoker). There are no dox to confirm this. Independent Scilon Mike Laws (and Marty's financier) piped in that both rumors about Shelly & Jessica having cancer are unconfirmed, but the rumor about Shelly can be relied on as "probably true" moreso than about Jessica, because the rumor about Shelly comes from one of Marty's close pals. After all, he's more theta than the rest of us. Marty also acknowledged that he is equipped to help Jessica with her cancer. http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?25655-Shelly-Miscavige-being-treated-for-cancer
Problem is, most of them are very nice people, if deluded and harmful while in. Remember, wanting to help others is a big hook for raw meat.
maybe some of them are nice people but to be complicit when you know of crimes, especially against children, is reprehensible! I remember seeing all the assholes staring at me and doing nothing as I was assaulted by one of their asshole "parishoners" FUCK THEM! Expect us bitches!!!!
I think that "very nice people" and scientologist are oxymoronic. How nice are people who support totalitarian organisations? How nice are people who give criminal organisations money? How nice are people who refuse to look at the facts that describe the organisation they have membership in? How nice are people who are complicit with or commit crimes? How nice are people who will betray you in a heartbeat if the organisation labels you as a "suppressive person"? I left scientology after finding out what it was really about. Nice people do not exist in scientology. They can be nice after they get out and recover.
Down, boy! Misinformed and brainwashed people are not "themselves." They've been told that Scientology is this great thing worthy of devoting your life and money to. They don't believe the negative stories because the whole system is set up that way. You know those crazy agreements they have to sign when they join? I know why they sign them. Because they think, "Oh, this would NEVER be me!" Then they get sent to Ethics for the first time...
Yeah, and when they first see things going bad do they leave? NO, they continue down a path, they know internally, is bad. That is called a "Fuckin' Moron"
And they are surrounded by others harboring the same doubts, yet unable to articulate them. The amazing thing about going to a party of mostly ex-members, is listening to them talk about stuff. I heard "OH, YOU THOUGHT THAT TOO?" so many times at Magoo's. All these folks with the same doubts, each clutching them privately and afraid to share because of draconian Scientology "ethics." Of course, as they get drawn in deeper, their entire lives become entwined with Scientology. Then they can't leave because they'd lose business, family, friends, etc. Them that blows be the lucky ones!
I disagree. I heard negative stories and I did not disbelieve them. Some I minimized, others I justified, and some changed the way I viewed and dealt with scientology. I never joined scientology, I was recruited, and at that time, there were no crazy agreements to sign. But, when the Introspection Rundown and legal release contract came out, that was the tipping point for me. I began my gradual exit. I never thought that I could remain in scientology with impunity because I had seen decent people mistreated and the effects of Hubbard's destructive policies.
mother & son stuck in clamhood each unable to voice their doubts to each other in case the brainwashing/fear causes a KR
This is an interesting paradox (you did at some point accept the recruitment), and the crux of some of the issues here.
I'm not quite sure. Amy Scobee 's husband claim this someone is a "decent source". The story of Tommy Davis' wife we have from Smurf, I'll put my trust in it a bit higher than some unknown source. Having said that, Shelly Miscavige having cancer kind of do fit the general picture quite well. Very well actually. Now, that is repulsive!
some forms of leukemia have very low survival rates, even with standard medicine. i know someone who survived a bone marrow transplant. he's well now, but he was incredibly lucky. he told me of the 12 patients he started out with only him and another person survived. About Ms. Feshbach's situation: I don't know her personally, so I can't feel anything for her. The fact that she was actively involved in destroying people's lives and the harm that she has caused doesn't make it better. Anyone who says that she's off the hook because she was "brainwashed" is using the same logic as a soldier justifying committing war crimes: I was ordered to do it!
Being willfully deprived of information is recognised as being bad for you - and an excuse for stupid behaviour - in other circumstances (time-share selling and its reguations, warning labels on tobacco products; two favourite examples). I think that this applies to victims of the mind-fuck perpetrated by the criminal organisation known as the "church" <spit> of $cientology. But, your milage may vary. Best Regards Jens
* calling Scientologists "nice people" * expressing empathy for "how they feel" and their miserable state of existence somethin funny goin on around here
I've met lots of exes whom I thought were nice people. Many of them are totally ashamed of how they behaved while in the cult. Just because I haz empathy for these sorry mutts doesn't mean I won't treat the stupid little brainwashed assholes as they deserve. I feel empathy for fish, too, but that doesn't stop me from killing and eating them.
What she said (except for the part about fish: I'll cook 'em but I don't eat them unless I actually had a hand in their demise).
really, you care about the fish before you eat it? don't worry, I talked to the fish god and he told me they don't know what the fuck is going on...
