Yeah, it could be simple insulation. Phase 2: disconnection. Phase 3: Now you're ready to pre-pay your next course.
I may be a day late and five dollahs short, but anyone got links to this footage? This would be delicious sauce with my nighty-time dessert.
Do you really think he married her because he loves that pie-faced fatass, or because he was ordered to?
When's Tommy gonna release his routing out, blackmailing, hush contract video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeAvUzQFsG4
Of course remember, IF Tommy blows, everyone will insist he was a liar and degenerate, and not to be trusted.
Miscavige is between a rock and a hard place. Someone has to be PTS in this situation. To be true to form in his controlling all things he really should be disconnecting someone from someone else. No matter which way it goes he risks losing influential and moneyed scientologists, either now or in the longer term. I have great sympathy for Jessica and those who care for her. I hope she survives this medical crisis and one way or the other finds her way out of the cult as a result of it, and brings family with her.
Yeah, I've wondered about that too. As far as I can tell, the whole SP/PTS thing came in as more and more people departed the cult and it became more and more important that those remaining were kept isolated from the truth for fear that it might spread. Running parallel to the SP/PTS public policy development was also Fair Game and the increasingly draconian Guardian's Office Orders which were kept highly confidential. The "you pulled it in" idea may well have come from some of the Theosophical/Anthroposophical teachings in regard to reincarnation. Those two groups have it that the spiritual being (if there is such a thing) chooses what lessons it needs in the next life time and so, to some extent, its physical illnesses ailments (especially those of a chonic nature) are "chosen". And that'll be 2 cents, thanks.
Sweet Xenu, I do miss Tommy Davis's facts about Scientology...... Reporter: "But you hear so much about spaceships and volcanoes and things like that..." And once again Tommy denies LRH's sacred scriptures on Xenu.... Tommy Davis: "Yah, well ya can read just about anything on the internet." (ummm....... before the cock crows twice, thou shalt deny me thrice ring a bell, Tommy?) Reporter on the LRH office in every church: "So this is in case he comes back?" Tommy Davis: "No" What a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive........ L. Ron Hubbard's death did not prevent Tommy Davis from throwing the old abusive fraud under the Thunderbird bus he lived on in his final days before his last injection of the psychotropic drug vistaril helped launch his sorry ass into outer space to conduct further research on the upper OT levels. Please come back, Tommy.......
Tommy, can you see me? Can you feel me near you? Tommy, can you hear me? Can we speak of Xenu? Ohhhh, Tommy? Tommy? Tommy? Tommy........?
Davis said, 'Of course, if it's true that Mr. Hubbard was never injured during ... then Dianetics is based on a lie, and then Scientology is based on a lie. ... I think this is hitting him hard. Poor Tommy
It's all well and good Tommy's getting sympathy online but I guaranfuckingtee he isn't getting any in the SO. If they are truly still in the mind fuck, like good SO zombies, they are asking how they pulled it in and wondering who is PTS - and all the Sciobots around them are harboring the same suspicions. I also think the SO/cult kept her tied up in auditing for as long as possible because she's not a threat to them dead, but she sure is if she survives thanks to wog science and wakes up to the con. Can't have Katie holmes handler going rouge, now can we? The only wild card in this equation is the powerful high ranking cult parents watching their children suffer. Watching a child die slowly due to SO stupidity and neglect - and Scio BS not being able to do a damn thing about it even when it's a highly trained SO member - might just trigger something in these sad excuses for mothers. Maybe they might actually have the courage to do the right thing for their, now grown, kids. Better late than never I guess. If they were normal SO members DM would kick them to the curb, call them out ethics DBs, who pulled in the cancer, and shit on them for being off post and causing him an inconvenience. But they aren't normal SO members and could cause a shit storm of a flap, the PR flap to end all flaps. I bet DM will try to convince all parties involved that Jess got sick due to exposure to all that entheta as a PR operative, she is PTS to anons and Martybots, but fingers crossed they will finally stop buying the lame bullshit excuses the cult spoon feeds them.
Scilon or not, I wish her the best. Thought and prayers to her and her family. I have seen first hand how devastating cancer can be. If any family members, OSA or anyone trying to prove what assmunches we can be, let it be said, many of us will pray for her and her family. Cancer sucks balls, folks. Ain't no joke (sic).
Separate issues, man. You have no idea what cancer can do to a family until you live through it. Fucking sucks balls. Now Jan Eastgate and the molester she obfuscated.....Cancer, sure.
Buddy, I wasn't impugning you. Perhaps, I was not very artful in my response. I'm dragging with the flu. I read it and applauded.
I'm in SE Tennessee, it's an epidemic here. Get well, Smurf....Drinking my anti-oxidant tea as well speak.
In the various PTS/SP HCOBs, Hubbard talks about charging dearly for PTS/SP rundowns. My impression was the whole PTS thing was just a money making scheme by LRH. Anyone declared PTS by HCO must do the PTS rundown, and Type 2 and other Types of PTS must addressed in very expensive auding sessions.
Yep - there's all that too, and all Scilons are encouraged to take the PTS/SP run down *before* they themselves become PTS. Just looking at the dates at which the material appeared it was around about the time that L Ron Hubbard's purported biography was starting to unravel, alongside increasing media and government scrutiny. As mentioned, this coincides with the development of the confidential GO/OSA "fair game" policies which is why I think its also about control of members and silencing critics. Making money is, of course, the raison d'ètre of Scientology and the PTS/SP material has certainly proved to be profitable. But, IMNSHO, the PTS/SP materials is not "just a money making scheme" but also about protecting the wider, long con.
This is so tragic. I mean Jessica was a little cra cra. (I'm remembering the Larry Anderson tapes) But seriously, this makes her another victim of Scientology. No one deserves to die like this. May her passing bring her peace. Scientology certainly never did.
I dunno smurf, If they were able to convince her, by what ever means, that auditing could cure her cancer, I feel sorry for her. As a spiritual being looking for answers, truth, and solace and to get it so wrong is a singular tragedy. She must live and die by her choices but I wonder a bit about her capacity for making truly informed choices about her health care. addendum: I generall defer to your understanding of the cult's dynamics...so this is just my gut feeling.
If she had listened to Elron and smoked more, she wouldn't have cancer now. Squirrel the tech at your own ri$k.