Her family has shit-loads of money. If she is not getting any treatment it's because she probably chose not to.
The Feshbechs are some of those people with more money than sense, obviously. So money can buy great medical care, unless you're a fucking idiot who thinks a half-assed fiction hack's words hold the keys to life, the universe and everything. All the money in the world can't save a brainwashed fool. Happily, they've got this delusion that they come back, so it's not so bad, is it? Unless you don't come back, of course. Then you've blown the one life you had.
By the way - I really don't think that Tommy has been absent from the public scene because of his wife's illness. I think it was more of a strategic choice not to have a live spokesperson. Otherwise we would have seen somebody replace him by now.
Bozuri, I gave that information for the poster I quoted. Not in relation to the Feshbachs or Tommy Davis. That's why I said it was 'off topic'.
Doh! Silly me. Sorry. By the way- remember there was this young guy who appeared in We Stand Tall Video staring with admiration at the Scientology cross or S sign in the sky? I remembered that in real life he was some sort of anti-cancer medication freak. Anybody remembers his name?
He has an article on his website called Exposing the fraud and mythology of conventional cancer treatments Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033847_chemotherapy_cancer_treatments.html#ixzz1fdqjbSJq I wonder if Jessica was taking advice from him in re her illness.
Yup.. the "Health Ranger"... Mike & I have had several conversations in the past explaining how he's convinced that fresh fruit, vegetables, and vitamins could cure HIV. http://www.healthranger.org/bio.html
Well, all Mike Adams has to do is provide the dox - the statistical evidence - for his claims, submit it for peer review, get others to repeat his 'findings', and there's no problem. But we all all appreciate it's hard, with all those rap vids to make.
Nutritional facts #37: CLAMS Good points Very low in saturated fat No sugar Very high in iron Very high in manganese High in niacin Very high in phosphorus High in potassium High in riboflavin Very high in selenium Very high in vitamin B12 Very high in vitamin C High in zinc Bad points High in cholesterol High in LRH
Mike is a tool for the CCHR. He made a documentary in 2008 with financial backing of CCHR. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1354556/
Comprehensive list of well known alternative therapies/people within scientology circles. http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/scientology-alternative-medicine.60683/ There are many reasons scientology inc. does not want members to regularly see an M.D., especially in this century. Medical doctors are becoming more and more trained to look for mental illness signs as well as signs of Abuse. They are also becoming savvy to Ask a patient what alternative therapies they use and especially any and all supplements, as well as their diet and sleep patterns. Besides Hubbard's mental illness including paranoia about medical care, and his other Obsessive compulsion disorders, guess what? Health insurance premiums, out of pocket costs, deductibles are very expensive, as well as medical treatments that you still have to pay for. Anything a scientology spends cash on that is Not scientology or doesn't indirectly benefit another sci or sci company (which the corporation eventually gets) somehow ends up being bad if not outright forbidden. Sci chiropractors are expensive, of course, and little insurance covers them for all visits, and definitely none of the very expensive supplements scilons sell. Scientology has become a multiple-level marketing scam beyond any that I have ever come across. You can see why any one person that has any asset, any money left, whatsoever, is kept from leaving at any cost. Live in a house owned by a sci, food at a sci "natural, organic" market. Toothpaste and laundry cleaner at a sci owned "no odor, no artificial, etc" boutique market, cars traded with other scientologists, income jobs with other sci companies, everything but perhaps utilities, electric, sewer, etc. on the average household expenses is $ that goes to sci Inc.
Give him a hot beef high colonic and let's find out if his theory is true. Theories are always cheap unless your life's on the line. If he tested positive for HIV, I wonder if his tune would change?
Like all licensed health professionals, physicians are mandated to report signs of physical or mental abuse. If they fail to do so, they face discipline from their licensing board.
Dude, OP, uncool... If it hadnt been for Tommy Davis, I wouldnt have found WWP, and i reckon i´m not the only one. (Thanks Sweeney.) May his family heal so he can return to the ring for the final round. Watching Scientology implode without Tommy "Chemical Ali" Davis, footbulleting his way through the final hour, would be like HBO killing Tony Soprano in the middle of the penultimate episode...
Hey - so only some people get to troll around here? The OP was for Tommy Davis & Dave Miscavige, not all the moralfags on here. Tommy needs to be talked to in terms that he understands. Scilons are mostly hip to the Karma concept. Giving him sympathy will not connect to his Scilon mindset. Antagonism is way above sympathy on their tone scale. When the parts of the puzzle are presented to him in such a way that he will connect the dots, he will gets the hell outta there and THEN we can get him the help he needs. As a former Scilon, I know of what I speak. So there.
Steven Jobs handled his pancreatic cancer with auditing? I didn't know he was a Scientologist. There is no survival rate for pancreatic cancer using western treatments, not that I've ever heard about. There IS a survival rates using indigenous medicines, but that is not widely known and I doubt Steven Jobs used those treatments. He probably tried some dietary/vitamin/herb thing..there was no harm in that, the cancer was always going to kill him. Jessica? Sounds like a different case altogether.
Technically, she did "pull it in" with Scientology's help. There is strong evidence that mental and emotional stress contribute to the development of cancers. I cannot imagine how much stress this woman has been living under these past 4 years. It caught up to her, and it will catch up to Tommy too...losing this woman that he likely loves due to the cult he's been supporting his whole life...well, I wonder...is he like Moxin who lost his daughter to "accidental" electrocution, but didn't bat an emotional eye and kept attacking for the cult...or is he like some other ex's who had to lose it all to gain their own life back? I feel sorry for Tommy. Usually karma does not catch up to you so...quickly...but perhaps this will be the straw...and if Tommy starts talking...who needs rathbun and rinder?
I don't think Tommy Davis is as useful or as potentially damaging to the cult as Rathbun/Rinder. He's a spoiled little rich kid on the fringe of celebrity thanks to his mom, Anne Archer, so he won't have been subjected to the same kind of shit R&R were doing in the 90's.
Actually, Moxon was rather upset by the mysterious death of his daughter Stacy Moxon Meyer. He dealt with it by going to Flag for some scientology brainwashing auditing and after that, did not give a shit how she died. Scientology works and helps people.
Oh, I do and here's why...Tommy has been Rpf'd and was up DM's ass sideways. If he blows on account of his loved one's death, I fully expect much more of a shit storm than either Rathbun or Rinder have provided. I think Tommy knows where many bodies are buried and hey, can't get them from one direction, get them from another. I think Tommy would be ON more, speaking out more, and spilling the beans much more than R&R who have WAY more ass to cover and are still so far up LRon's ass that we can't see their feet. No, if Tommy blows, he is not going to the zone...oh no he's not....BRB popcorn!
Since you put it like that, yeah I guess he could have an impact if he turned that "angry, real angry" stuff on the cult, and in particular David Miscavige. He's already said (paraphrasing) "if LRH lied about his military background then the whole of scientology is based on a lie". His mom would never be allowed to speak to him again though.
Well.. there is always a positive side somewhere. And Personally, I like Tommy Davis for the lies he's perpetrated just in his routine business. Who can forget the CNN / Nathan Baca interviews that proved that he just pretends OT3 doesn't exist, of that clearly it is offensive for a non sci to ask a sci about those beliefs. That's why I love Dear Leader.
Ridiculous. survival rate with cancers is always couched in percentage-of-survivors after a given length of time. For the more common forms of the disease, median survival is around 6mo-2 years. For the variant that Jobs had, early and aggressive "western" treatment gives a median survival of ~ 10 years or longer. The longer that treatment is delayed, the more time it has to spread. The "full" treatment of surgery, radiation, chemotherapy gives longer survival results, and generally better quality of life. Jobs only did surgery (and ignored the other two), and the cancer spread to his liver, and he had to have THAT replaced too. Steve Jobs screwed up. His doctors said so, and he (belatedly) agreed. Yeah. Jobs had access to the best medical advice and expertise on Earth, which he ignored in favor of pet theories of his own. Jessica Davis had access to Scientology, and she followed it very well indeed. result = same
There's plenty of speculation in here on the significance of Mr. Davis blowing and then there is this reality: First Karma and now secret indigenous cancer cures. We don't have enough buckets to hold all the woo.
That whole SP/PTS thing always struck me as a parallel to black magic - like some other wizard was casting a spell which messed up your spells. I have wondered if that's where Ronnie took that from. It may be simple paranoia or insulation from outsiders, but it's so close to his fantasy mentor, it makes me wonder. In any case, the cult has a cornucopia of woo-woo.
OMX, you mean auditing doesn't cure cancer??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Jett Jessica JRH coincidence?
I always thought it was just convenient woo to scare victims away from anyone who might be telling the truth. Those two words together THE TRUTH - one of many word combo's clams hear and understand 'differently'
