Consider the case of Melissa Wattman, who claims to have gone through horrendous medical care to treat her leukemia, but was later cured by Dianetics. Warning: Scilon site: http://www.scientologynews.org/press-releases/meet-a-scientologist-melissa-wattman.html "Compare these living hells to the experience of another leukemia patient, Melissa P. Wattman, of 2374 Flintlock Drive, Clearwater, FL 33765, who was also threatened with the “bubble” treatment. In the spring of 1998, she wrote to the Baton Rouge judge who sentenced her holistic health care provider (Scilon James. G. Keller) to a three-year jail term." http://www.karlloren.com/Jimmy_Keller/page10.htm http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/clears/auditor_161.html Tumorex's chief proponent, James G. ("Jimmy") Keller, operated cancer clinics in the United States and Mexico. http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/tumorex.html
Tommy, get out while you can. In spite of what the OP said, most exes and wogs will welcome you. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. We're all human beings, and we don't want to see people suffer--especially someone so young.
You are so right! Cancer is an equal opportunity disease. I agree about the OP. Spewing moonbat shit everywhere. It is meaningless drivel, all of it.
It's sad to see anyone become stricken with Leukemia. The real moonbat shit was spread by L. Ron Hubbard with his absurd, blatantly false claims of the cause and cures for many diseases. It's unconscionable to make such claims about this and other diseases being cured through Hubbard's auditing processes. It's even sadder that so many Scientologists, especially Sea-Org members have not gotten routine, proper medical care over the years that may have detected cancers early on.
It's just plain sad when Scilons accept, without question, what's handed to them on a platter, hence the "mindfuck" that is the rope that binds the cult together. Sea Orgers with cancer and terminal diseases live with the false cognition that they will die, but be reborn in a new, healthy body in their next lifetime. This is why some Sea Orgers & publics have sought authorization to end their cycles, i.e., cult-sanctioned suicide. There has also been executive decisions handed down ordering members to "end their cycle".. http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/prince19990820.html#24 It's so convenient for Scilons who are suffering from terminal illnesses...just kill the meat body.. and come back clean as a whistle in a new body.
Welcome to my world. And I was never in scientology. Just made the mistake of having pre-existing conditions making private insurance too expensive to get (and being born in the U.S.)
So the attitude from the most ethical people on the planet is: Let 'em die - as long as they sign over all their worldly cash to the cult, fuck 'em, it's not like Miscavige cares.
I'm really sorry to hear this news. It's a tragedy for Jessica, TD and family. I really hope that the prognosis is not as bad as indicated. I'll be praying for both Jessica and Tommy. One reason this would be a very bad deal for DM is because Jessica was so high profile - Katie's minder, remember?
geez another case gone untreated. this is why Wonder what Monster inlaw Anne Archer has to say about her son's wife having leukemia? So is the reason why Tommy has been MIA? or is it because he is cutting a deal with DM? Didn't Marty mention this or something? Or maybe its both. At any rate, I hope she isn't suffering, and I hope Tommy gets out and sings like a bird. And I also hope his idiot mother follows suit
I'm very sorry to hear that and I'm certainly not saying that Scientologists are the only ones who don't get proper medical care including many non-scientologists who do have the coverage and don't get screened for a variety of reasons. I do have very serious problems with L. Ron Hubbard's claims of curing disease with his mental processing alone that staff and slave Sea-org. members not only believe in but sell relentlessly for profit that gets laundered through the dizzying channels of corporate Scientology and their endless front groups for untold millions. The consequences for many deluded members is many undiagnosed physical ills. Imho, Sea-Org. and staff should have proper medical coverage for their efforts working 80 to 100 hours a week for 50 bux while abusers at the top like David Miscavige live in luxury. There is a huge price to pay for believing in the pathological liar and convicted fraud L. Ron Hubbard and so many of his bogus, unproven claims. Cancer is a horrible disease and having coverage is no panacea but it does help. It has impacted my family personally, my comments were related to Scientology employees and members who have been deluded and taken advantage of for far too long. I wish you well.
If this is true about Jessica, I extend my sympathies to her mother who recently suffered the loss of Jessica's father, Joe Feshbach. I hope that she is waking up to the fraud that is the Cof$ and speaks out about how her family has been fleeced and scammed by this criminal organisation. Millions of dollars in donations later, her husband is dead and her daughter (if the info in this thread is true) is dying.
I know this is off topic, but if you live in California there is affordable pre-existing coverage provided by the state. http://www.pcip.ca.gov/Home/default.aspx If you are already in California, I would hurry up and enroll. They will soon have to cap new enrollment because money is running out and they cannot cover the 25,000 they thought they could a year ago. They have to cap it around 6,500. If you are not in California, there may be PCIP like options for you: https://www.pcip.gov/StatePlans.html
so the question that should be on the lips of every deluded clam.. "will DM choose auditing or expensive medical care when he becomes ill?"
Perhaps it should be made widely known that the cult of scamology is practicing medicine without a license, a serious offense. Advising or offering to cure cancer with auditing is the crime. To give her hope of cure by doing auditing instead of receiving medical treatment is the crime. Where's the AMA in all of this? Or, the DA?
Apparently he hasn't been auditing for decades, so my guess is the best medical care that parishioner's money can buy. (And organ "donations" shouldn't be a problem.)
This is absolutely horrible news to hear. Despite all the dirty deeds Jess & TommyD have done in the name of the malignant church - my heart & prayers go out to them during this time of utterly unnecessary suffering. I hope they see the way out is the way out, and somehow manage to come thru with some ties somewhere being severed with the vicious cult that does this to people lives.
Sad news. I know her but have not seen her in a few years. She has a twin sister and a few close cousins. Can't they do a marrow transplant? Edit: Did research and answered my own question. Once it spreads it becomes too late. So sad. She's way too young.
This is so sad. But one story among many in scientology, and with other of woo. I lost a dear friend to breast cancer because she believed it could be cured with sweetgrass and sweat lodges. She lived long enough to warn her niece, facing the same disease, to pursue contemporary medical treatment instead. So that good from her death, at least. I'm still mad she's gone.
This is a load of BS. If an adult makes an informed decision to rely on religious faith or practice to resolve a medical problem, even if it is terminal, the adult is well within their rights to do so.. it doesn't matter if it's Scientology, Christian Science, or a fundamentalist church. The exception would be if the member sought medical care, but was physically restrained from doing so. Many people die relying on prayer & homeopathic methods to cure them. Jessica is 35 years old. If anyone tried to prosecute the cult for her current condition, they'd have to prove negligence and that Jessica was coerced or forced to do auditing versus seek medical treatment. That was not the case according to my sources.
Where's Cindy Feshbach? Last I knew she is running the Palo Alto mission. She was my auditor thru the Grades, and just a really cool person. I remember the twins when working on their house. This is terrible to lose Joe and now have Jess messed up. The arrogance of Scientologist to treat illness with auditing is killing them. Wake Up!
Words are not the things. "Coerced" has many meanings, and they change, even in Black's Law Dictionary. And interestingly enough, the definition of "compel" has undergone some evolution, so that some editions of Black's equate it to "urge forcefully" and other editions "urge forcefully under extreme pressure". (inb4aliceinwonderland) I have come to the understanding that one under mind control/hypnosis/coercive persuasion is not exercising free will. Someone/thing else is directing their actions. Until society comes to grips with mind control, cults will use the old "free will" defense. The law, and words, have not kept up with this "tech". IIRC Europe has some laws that recognize this issue.
Yeah. My uncle and a good friend both died of complications from adult onset leukemia. My uncle went in the early 90s. My friend died last year, but he participated in some experimental treatment involving stem cells, that had shown promise. Didn't work for him, but dammit, these people did everything they could do. They didn't sit around getting petted by magic massage or auditing, they tried science. Fucking scientologists and their bullshit beliefs. In a way I feel some sympathy, but at the same time I feel like maybe these stupid mutts should have done more. Now it's too late and Katie will lose her BFF, F.
Cindy lives in Austin. Several people have called & email her and have received no response. Likewise, in visits to her condo. OSA may have her in seclusion.
Smurf usually knows what he's talking about. While it's tempting to say that she asked for it, I do not wish leukemia on anyone, not even the cults "pointy end" operatives. I really hope she pulls through and finds time to enjoy an actual life (not the Sea Org version of life).
Part of me agrees with that, but the other more Anony part wishes to laugh at her asking her why auditing and Hubbard drivel didn't save her. People that ignore their body like that and don't seek medical help from people who have studied SCIENCE really get no sympathy from me. Choosing not get help for whatever reason causes me to withdraw my sympathy. She's just going to become another statistic of Scientologists that Die younger than normal wogs.
Being OT bazillion or some shit, not only should she be able to cure herself, she shouldn't have gotten sick in the first place. But then there's always an answer for that. Its her fault or there's a PTS around. Kinda like insurance. You're completely covered, until you have a claim.
If it weren't in bad taste, I'd be tempted to leak this to some interested gossip sources. But I'm better than that. Yup....I'm better than that.
