The Main Scilon PR Man in UK Thinks That Dealing With Anons is Like Swatting Flies

The Main Scilon PR Man in UK Thinks That Dealing With Anons is Like Swatting Flies

UK Anons listen up! To defeat the Scifag PR in UK you need to understand some things about how it operates and WHO does the operating. I am going to give you some info that we can apply to our July 12th protests and beyond.

First thing to know is that the most senior PR person in UK is Bob Keenan. He has an assistant whose name is Marianne Rowell.

Keenan’s real post title is “LRH Personal Public Relations Officer.” That means he is totally responsible for Hubbard’s PR in UK. Part of his job description also includes the fact that PR-wise he is senior over the OSA PRs and any other Scifag PRs in UK.

Hubbard’s PR is crap, and Keenan knows it. So he gets around this by calling himself the “L. Ron Hubbard Foundation Director”. This foundation is totally made up. Get it? Now the fact that he is Hubbard’s failed PR man is hidden. Now he can meet VIPs and look them in the eye.

Keenan is a first class charmer. He has quite a varied background from being a former London fireman, a Royal Marine as well as other professions. With his varied past, and his personal charm, he is able to woo VIPs and ensnare them in his web.

For example – and this is a key example – he is the man behind making Kevin Hurley of the City of London PD so friendly towards the scienos. Keenan is the one who got him to speak at the Ldn grand opening. It is not a stretch of the imagination to see that Keenan could have easily taken advantage of the draconian UK terror laws and asked Hurley to get Anons nailed for using the word “cult”. Keenan has been overheard stating that dealing with Anonymous is like swatting flies. Now you see why he believes that. It is possible that with his tentacles so deeply established in the London PD, he may have expanded this to other UK cities where Anons are getting nailed.

If Keenan weren’t there, doing his one-on-one PR thing, it is possible that Anons wouldn’t be getting targeted by the police.

But Keenan does this wooing on many fronts, not just with the police. He doesn’t give a shit about these people “getting into Scientology” or “going up the bridge” – he just wants them as a connection so he can use their power. And he’s bloody good at it.

What he is really crap at is the media. He doesn’t do TV and has done very little radio. He makes the OSA people (like Janet Laveau) do that stuff then complains about how crap they were. If you forcibly draw him into this arena, you will be getting him OUT of his comfort zone. The key to getting rid of him is to get him in a LOT of trouble with the media. Get someone like John Sweeney to draw him into a debate on LRH, for example. Ever wonder why Cof$ never released the Hubbard Bio? Because THEY CAN’T. They can’t document the official church fairy tales about LRH. Sweeney (or whoever) using actual evidence can trash Hubbard’s PR man in front of the entire UK. That will humiliate him to Miscavige, who Keenan allegedly has a good relationship with. That relationship will turn sour fast and the same thing that happened to Mike Rinder will happen to Keenan.

Keenan has a base in London and this is where he does his one-on-one PR thing with tours, meetings, dinners etc. It is about time this place started getting picketed too. It is located at 35/37 Fitzroy in Camden, which is where Hubbard’s first UK “org” was located in the 50s. It is just a 5 minute walk from the TCR test centre. This is where Keenan works from. The place is open to the public so if you go knock on the door without your mask and ask for a tour, they will give it to you. Be courteous and don’t let on that you are an Anon. Just go scope it out if you want to and get a better idea of the enemy’s mindset.

Let’s get creative on how to get Keenan out of action. Minimally, target him by name in picket signs at our protests. He is well-known in each Scifag "church" in UK, so his name should be used in all UK protests.

But primarily, somehow or another he needs to be drawn out of his little hidden world and into public view in the media. This is where he can be broadly exposed as Hubbard’s fake, failed PR man and made into an embarrassment for Miscavige. If you take him out, you’ve taken out the UK Scifag PR for all intents and purposes.

Oh, and by the way, here’s Keenan’s mobile number so you can text him and tell him what a great job he’s doing: [removed by mod]. Commit no hate crimes with this number, please. Just have some fun with it.

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In my experience "swatting flies" is ineffective.
There always seems to be ten moar flies that rise up where that one fell.
You'd think a person with his CV would know that...
Oh well, I guess not.

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"its like swatting flies" is a phrase used to represent futility. They need to learn more.

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It's funny how good of an analogy that actually is.

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well if by swatting flies you mean standing outside with pamphlets about bees going "you wanna know more about these flies?"

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Ill take the infraction is my suggestion comes across too strong. But i think a great deal of care needs to be used here. Im not saying op is a troll or scilon. But of their 6-7 posts on the board only one is not about this pr guy.

By posting up the passage above, they provide a primer, the insult to anon as well as his personal mobile phone number. And while it may not be a trap, it at the very least should be handled like one. The above scenario, played correctly by a scilon of the ability suggested by the OP is present in this failed pr guy, could be very easily abused. A documented example of protesters targeting an individual, complete with a string of recorded abusive calls to his personal numbers.

Just noticed mod has removed number.

While the op is potentially a superb source of info, such sudden windfalls need to be taken very carefully. The op appears very well informed, so is either an extremely skilled anon, someone in scientology very close to the target, someone just out of scientology with same credentials or a trap.

A possible method of working this is to attack not the man but his position. Protest the PR HQ of scientology, responsible for the slander of critics etc. Dont make it about the man.

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We always need to be careful not to target individuals in protests. Now drawing him into news interviews or even youtube videos... that might work.

It's the difference between attack & analyze.

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Where's this info from? What're your sources? How does his role compare to Graham Wilson's?

Actually, I've just done a little research. This piece includes info about these guys as well as containing a denial of the OT3 material that we've got the dox for.

Sunday Herald: Life: People, Lifestyles & Living Today

Also... now, it may be that the journalist is at fault here, but if they're using information that Keenan supplied, there's a huge porky in there. See if anyone else can spot it.

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By 'porky', I don't mean just about the Xenu stuff, I mean about Keenan's military career.

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I live for a day, where in a global protest movement, where every minute that every person can give to it counts, that if people spot shit that we can use, they dont play hide and seek with it.

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I'm in this for my own amusement. But anyway.

If he was a Royal Marine, he wasn't in the Army.

He'd also be pretty insulted by the suggestion, as marines are very particular about that sort of thing. So, either he's bullshitting and following the great scilon tradition of lying about military records and just plain doesn't have a clue about the UK military, or he's got a pretty shaky grasp of the media, because you don't do interviews like this without copy approval, or making sure the journalists get their facts straight in a right to reply.

Now, that's minor compared to the other criticisms and questioning in the piece, but one way or another, it shows yet another chink in the armour.

I'm betting the bloke himself is reading this, whether the OP is a plant or not.

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...and just doing a MOD FOI request to see if his military record is genuine.

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Okay, no one answering at the moment and I have to do dayjob type work now really.

However, if anyone would like to pick up on this, the MOD enquiries number is:

0870 607 4455

From the voice menu, you can select an option to 'obtain member's service records' and then after this the Royal Marines are the second option. If you can get through, they should easily be able to search for 'Bob Keenan' or 'Robert Keenan'.

This is perfectly legal and well within your rights to do. If this guy *is* genuine, he should have no problem with us doing this. However, if he's NOT, then this will help us immensely, as we'll be able to use this info to discredit him to both the police and media.

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Unless you're trying to sell them guns, bitches or blingworthy medals, the MOD are somewhat slow/non-existent to return fire on the "answering your calls front".

Have tried, will try again later.
To avoid getting raeped by your telco: 0207 2186645 = same number
Followed by option 3, option 2, option 1

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AFAIK, you have to be next of kin to obtain service records post-1920.

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We don't need to service records, just confirmation as to whether he was in or not.

Military - especially special forces and marines, reeeaaaally don't like people claiming to have been members when they weren't, so they're usually happy to confirm or deny this sort of thing.

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Think you're right...
"If you are seeking data on individuals who served after 1921 then it is necessary to write to the appropriate branch of service at the Ministry of Defence. These service papers are normally only available to the next of kin and the Ministry of Defence usually charges."

EDIT to remove info.

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K, the rules don't seem to be applied equally, as now have email addy of private co who deal with archival of MOD naval records and who're happy to confirm.

Info, needed:

Full name.

DOB

Enlistment date

Additional useful, but not essential info (e.g. place of birth)

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edited due to confusion:

what's this post about? I thought it meant one thing and responded, but looking at your previous post in this topic, I realised I'd completely misinterpreted it

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Just having a go at me for holding out on the marine/army thing and seeing if anyone else spotted it.

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Having served does not = service record, you have a point there.

But we're still knackered since we have no idea as to his enlistment date, for one thing.

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Trying to pull some basic info via the "L. Ron Hubbard Foundation" records of which he and Judy Bowen are apparently directors: Not listed as a company [Comp House]. Not listed as a charity [Charity Commission]. That said if it has an income of less than £5000 pa it would fall below the ChCommiss remit. Anyone got more of a clue about the legal nature of the organisation?

Can't find much of an online presence for the guy to scrape personal info from either.

Steroids may be needed...

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Hardly definitive, but no Rob/Bob/Robert Keenans on any of the "royal marines reunited" databases/forums.

PM'd you Boris.

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he would have had a commando (unit) number, ( Royal Marines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ), often shown in the form 'number xx, xx commando'

if you get that and a year in which he was still serving you'd be able to find photos of the unit which will usually have the names of the marines attached.
or you might be able to track him if theres any mention of a boat he served on.


"WHEN BOB Keenan was young he joined the Royal Marines and served his country. In 1991 he was living in Bristol, his back damaged during the decade he had spent as a fireman after leaving the army." ( Sunday Herald: Life: People, Lifestyles & Living Today )

Oh my personal hero. Marine, soldier and a fireman.
Sounds EXACTLY like Hubbard really doesn't it.
Good for him if it IS true, but pix/docs or it didn't happen, total sellout now.

Anyway that puts his claimed service at some point prior to 1981 as after that he was a fireman and then back problems.

(boris I fixed your URL you'd linked the comment reporting system accidentally, wouldn't want people not realising and thinking they were posting a comment instead of reporting.)

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Maybe you could post a general query on the forces reunited boards? This is looking dodgier by the minute, but official dox would be very sweet.

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^^^Will try if I can at least find a decent photo of the guy...the details are still a bit hazy otherwise.

Centre-right shot:

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Boris is correct on this; Marines, royal or otherwise would NEVER ever say they were in the Army, ever. Perhaps it was a mistake of the paper? Although it's an ODD one. Perhaps they meant "after leaving the armed forces"...but one cannot have been a Marine, and left the Army....unless he had such a hard time in the Marines he switched to the Army:twisted:.

In any case were he truly a royal Marine, that "left the Army" bit is the most EPIC of insults....:hooray:

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This.

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K, official request for confirmation fired...

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While i hope he will get caught in a lie, even if he does, he can just deflect it by blaming it on the paper changing it after he approved it, from say 'service' to 'army'. That would cover his ass suffficiently, while only being disproveable by us and the paper with a lot of digging and on the condition the paper kept immaculate and detailed records of all its edits to all its articles. He could also polish t ff, to add insul to injusr, that we were attempting to attack his character and past using 'the tactics they claim my church uses'. Sloppy moves with this, and we could end up making him a very smug bastard.

And it could honestly be the paper fucked up, and he cursed them after secretly.
Remember, there are videos of news reporters online right now, calling protesters the church of anonymous. Public media can easily make a balls of details.

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"Kiss my grits! I've served in the Marines, the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, Denny's, IHOP, some sleazy place in Queens and...."

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My instinct is that it's probably kosher, but given Co$'s past "creativity" concerning military histories, there's no reason not to check...we'll see...

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Yeah, still worth spending half an hour and a phone call or email on.

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Oh im saying totally check it! But once you have this piece of info, prevent his first parry from working by checking with the paper in advance that he copy checked the FINAL wording of the article. Its this kind of prep that allowed that CNN reporter to spitroast Tommy Davis.

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He's made the claim to at least one other person he's glad-handed, so it doesn't appear to be something that's a one-off utterance. Would they give a statement to that effect? Don't know...local councillor, but they'd definitely be underwhelmed if it was bs.

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the win we're looking for is proof he hasn't served period, or proof he was solely in the army but is consistently claiming to have been a Royal Marine as that would be a massively inflated egolie and something HIGHLY unlikely to be a write up accident by any paper. (vice versa would do, the army don't like false claims either, but a Royal Marine is a superior position to generic army serviceman)

This is not the same as the character assassination done by the CoS during fair game, as we are not lying about ourselves to promote our cause, they attempt to dig up things on us to discredit truths on other unrelated issues.
IF this person is lying, then they are doing so specifically to bolster their image, and effect the opinion of people on the PR spin presented as coming from someone of integrity in order to draw people into the schemes of the great bait and switch scam of scientology.

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Don't have time to read this thoroughly before work, but looks good.

Also, Scientology is about as effective against Anonymous as a flyswatter versus a swarm of locusts.

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Oh i totally agree its not character assassination. But im trying to look at scenarios. I only raised that as what would be the response if anon jumped the gun in a situation that he could then easily spin to his advantage. I dont care how incompetent he is meant to be. I would still handle this guy like he could execute one hit kill combo breakers on any unprepared attacks.

Facts mean nothing to COS. Spin is everything to them, because they know people are easily fooled. If facts meant anything, the cos would not be allowed to show industry of death.

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Fact: Keenan attended basic training in the Marines - he told me - and was kicked out due to a weak back and lack of strength.

He is LRH PPRO he is very senior in UK, he is given huge lattitude to do his PR function 0 greasing palms mainly.

His covert PR ops is funded under the table by David Gaiman, John Chadder, the OT VIIIs who own and run Greys of Westminster. The funding is probably illegal, but is off the books so it cannot be traced through the Church.

Don't know where the funding came from for the Fitzroy street building, but it was huge money and we worked on the building flat out for two months, the design and project management was done by a private American designer and overseen by a very senior and shadowy guy from Int Reserves. I think it was an investment against a currency crash or the sub-prime fiasco that happened last year. These people do know what they are doing with regard to money and investment, don't ever assume that they don't.

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Someone mention flies?
YouTube - El-P "Flyentology"