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Tape: Cruise Asst stalks Int Base escapee

Discussion in 'Independent Scientology' started by fisherman, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. WagTheWog Member

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    I think there is a real possibility that Marty is gathering Scilons around him and beginning to create his own little cultdom. If that is so, then he becomes the next focus.
  2. Anonymous Member

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    And I think it would be jumping the gun a little bit to just assume he wants to start the exact same thing all over again. I mean it may well be that way, but I certainly wouldn't participate until I was sure that's what was happening. Even then, it would be a completely different set of circumstances.

    Has he fair gamed any anon's who have gone against him so far? I mean he's been curt, but that's all I've seen.
  3. Puppetmama Member

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    I have no problem with a private belief in space ghosts as long as child abuse, human trafficking, denial of free speech, forced abortion, breaking up families, willfully induced bankruptcy and asking the government to support it don't go with it. (A few glaring omissions, I'm sure.) It all depends on what type of cult Marty wants to build. Listening to that audio, I'd say that he was a true believer and definitely wants to build something.
  4. Bipolart Member

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    I said Mah-tey
    Big bo-tey
    He's a goofy-lookin' somebo-tey
    Cause a helluva shock
    When he walks on ur block
    And he just wants to see ur body rock

    Ya bean-pole Michelin Man
    Scrape for ur dinner from a garbage can
    He's got tulip breath
    And a brillo neck-
    Tried to pay the rent and he bounced the check
    Study in the mirror
    Work on his look
    He looks like something out of Jungle Book

    etc.
  5. Anonymous Member

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    Indeed he does, I just don't like it when some of the scilon propaganda rings true on us. We can't just take speculation that he wants to and turn it into "marty's next". Maybe he legitimately believes that a positive real religion can be built out of scientology... I mean, others have done the same with worse texts.
  6. Sponge Member

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    Assuming that one couldn't possibly run a regime quite as bad as Miscavige's all over again (I mean you just couldn't, really, not by any stretch of imagination), any "Church" of Scientology version 2.1 (or is it v3.0?) would be far easier to troll, raep and pillage from within.

    Idk, I get sick of every fucking thread that mentions R&R devolving into the same old general conjecture, and here I am joining in. I must be bored.
    Any more news on the grapevine from moonbatville yet?
  7. Sponge Member

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    BTW, Jan Eastgate, the shrill shrieking International President of CCHR, must have been pretty fucked after having travelled all the way from the UK to help with the handling job (at the airport when Mike rinder was arriving). Three days before that she was at St.Hill Manor doing a presentation for her CCHR Seminar:
    2010 Saint Hill UK Calendar of Summer Events - Why We Protest | Activism Forum
    What the fuck did they need her there for, doing all that travelling for some dirty handling job? Surely that sort thing would be beneath her.
  8. Random guy Member

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    Any "new" scientology will have to be radically different from Hubbard's/Miscavige's current mindfuck. Starting a mystery cult based on Hubbard's "secret" writing isn't possible any more. That leaves "the tech", which will have stand on it's own legs (which it won't). The revenue potential will be accordingly.

    The only role a "reformed" cult can have, is to be a sort of haven for old culties who can't face a life without someone telling them what to do and think. In that form, the cult 2.0 won't outlive this generation of culties.

    No, we can not and should not try to tell anyone what to believe or not believe. It would be ethically dubious and practically impossible besides. All we can do is to make sure that anyone new considering joining the cult is fully informed.
  9. Anonymous Member

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    Hey, samefag who was in contact with the media from last night here.

    I've had some more emails with my contacts. The info we pulled together in this thread will be used but a publication date is not yet available. My contact is reaching out to some Exes on this (not Rathbun, but I cannot say who yet) as well. Most likely that the information we collected here will be used as part of a larger story. But again, and as always in these situations, no guarantees. If/when it does go public, I will get a heads up in advance and will pass that along here when it comes.

    Good job pulling together the dox last night you bastards. I fucking love when a thread is rocking and rolling like that, anons digging for info and bringing it back to the hive. It's fun. It's THE LULZ for me when we can work together like that to expose shit that the Cult wants kept secret. Fucking love it.

    With regard to the position that we are being PA'd by Rathbun, I'm not sure. He has plenty of media contacts to reach out to on his own, on the one hand. On the other, he is a conniving bastard.

    I really don't care, as this story will get lots of pub and hurt the Cult regardless. That's what matters to me here. The value of "celeb" related stories is that they make it easier to get the attention of the media, providing an interesting context to reveal the corrupt and abusive nature of Scientology.

    It's just one more log on the fire. Burn mother fuckers, burn.
  10. RightOn Member

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    I am sure paranoia is out of control now and they probably sent out who they think they can trust?

    That number of people they trust has to be getting mighty slim? And I think it shows by who they sent. Don't you agree?
    I mean to send out Michael Roberts and Cruise's assistant?
  11. fisherman Member

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    RightOn is "right on"

    The executive ranks must be getting rather slim if there's a need to pull personnel from England. Are there only 20 "loyal officers" left in COS? That question might warrant some discussion on it's own and maybe it's own thread.

    RightOn wrote:

  12. auchraw Member

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    I'll go with this.
  13. PodPeople Member

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    Maybe not. The chosen goon personnel would likely be chosen by who is thought to have some influence over the escapee.

    I looked over SP Hall list Sponge posted. There's maybe 8 people that would fit Veteran, DM Insider, and someone with knowledge to give DM perpetual coloitis.
    Heber, Starkey, they were in in the 60's. Other than 3 names, the rest were before 1976 or after.

    Mark Yager. He was only 13 when his mother left, Mark stayed "in". He and DM started in CMO together, as teenagers. Around 1976.

    Guillaume Lesevre. At least first CofS posting: 1976 became Director of Church of Sci of Vienna, Austria.

    Lyman Spurlock. Began work for CofS, it was either 1976 or early 1977. Now This guy, it Would make sense any of Cruise's past personnel would be involved. Not sure about CCHR. It would make more sense to have Tax and Finance higher ups.
  14. Holl Anon Member

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    Yeah, I can see Heber climbing the security gates at Gold and teetering down Highway 79 with his steady cane in hand.

    If Marty is being honest about the escapee, it has to be someone that's had alot of public exposure... why else would Tommy tap into Scio celebrities to do thier dirty work for them? Michael Roberts? Denice Huff? Wierd.

    If it was Shelly Miscavige, you would have seen alot more OSAbots in force trying to recover her.
  15. Anonymous Member

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    One of the Hubbard's?
  16. Anonymous Member

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  18. Anonymous Member

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    Just bumping so you all can see that

    John Brousseau

    is the escaped SO....so what a let down.
  19. Anonymous Member

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    Maybe not for John Brousseau.
  20. Anonymous Member

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    I know nothing about him. Is he a dick?
  21. Anonymous Member

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    Interesting tidbit...

    John B was married to Clarisse B.

    Clarisse B is the sister of Shelly Miscavige.
  22. Anonymous Member

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    That could be interesting.

    When looking through links...people (with no proof of course) were implying John B was forced to divorce his wife. I would like that confirmed, if possible.
  23. EyeOnSci Member

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    Maybe JB knows where Shelly Miscavige is and what happened in her marriage to DM.
  24. Anonymous Member

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    They got divorced in the 90s from what I know. Definitely possible.
  25. PodPeople Member

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    Holy shiite! John Brousseau?! Holy shiite! I hope to Gawd he gets into hiding quick, for real. This is too wonderful for words. Here's a key piece of info.
    Also, he as later RTC working in DM's office.

    "The following was told to me VERY recently by an ex-Int executive who was very close to David Miscavige for years and enforced DM's orders on the base. If this person started speaking out it would make BFG's postings look like only one of the hors d'oeuvres offered in a smorgasbord.

    This will explain how DM was able to get the LEVERAGE to take over like he did without much backlash.

    * JOHN BROUSSEAU aka "JB" who had worked at the Creston Ranch and who was close with the Broekers tipped Dave off on the fact that the Loyal Officer issue was a forgery by Pat Broeker and that Annie was in on it and agreed to it.

    Let me state that again:

    JOHN BROUSSEAU aka "JB" who had worked at the Creston Ranch and who was close with the Broekers tipped Dave off on the fact that the Loyal Officer issue was a forgery by Pat Broeker and that Annie was in on it and agreed to it.

    If this were true, then that would mean that there were NO final words or issues from LRH before his death related to Scientology leadership or as a message to Scientologists and that the Broekers were simply just the de facto leaders by default and their assumption.

    David Miscavige took this information from JB and ran with it folks. I don't have all of the info on what he did with Pat and Annie Broeker when he found out about it, I know that Annie was sec checked and handled to the point of her breakdown and ADMISSION that the Loyal Officer issue was a forgery.

    This is why David Miscavige cancelled the LRH Loyal Officer issue as a forgery and fake.

    But the question still remains, if the Loyal Officer document was fake, what were LRH's real intentions or final words for Scientology and Scientologists? Well, THERE WEREN"T ANY. Thus, DM with his leverage and expose was able to pound his way to being the top leader of the Church."
    source link: Operation Clambake Message Board :: View topic - Radio Silence Broken
  26. Anonymous Member

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    In 3-6 months we'll find the answers to all our questions for $29.95 on Amazon.com when JB's book is released.
  27. PodPeople Member

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    excerpt from MR blog:

    "Our old friend, and your new friend, goes by the name of JB (John Brousseau). He is a thirty-three year Sea Org veteran. While the name won’t hold much significance for many of you since JB was never high profile, the very reasons for his non-public profile makes him worthy of twenty dmbots, countless PI’s, and several violations of federal law in DM’s mind.

    JB’s value to the movement is manifold. Two of those values are most prominent. The first, DM is acutely aware of and is the justification for the foot bullets he is madly firing our (his) way. The second, DM is incapable of even conceiving.

    Those of you who know JB and the numerous special projects he was involved in understand why DM has been blowing gaskets rather than candles on his birthday cake."
  28. Anonymous Member

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    There's an assumption there.
  29. PodPeople Member

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    There's much more> Clarisse Brousseau, nee Clarisse Barnett. Mother: Flo Barnett, David Miscavige's mother in law. You know, the one who died by "suicide" supposedly by rifle, oh, shot 4 times! And why DM was suspected.

    Here's Jesse Prince's info on that, and the tie inbetween John, Clarisse, Flo, Shelly, Miscavige and Marty: (even Jesse was taken off the "case").

    Jesse Prince tape 2
  30. JohnnyRUClear Member

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    ITT: Chanology needs info-Viagra to get it up over a new JB. [IMG]
  31. Smurf Member

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    I seem to recall J.B. being remarried to Diedre, who was a Gold housekeeper. I believe their marriage was one of many that DM ordered broken up.

    I believe Diedre is still at Gold.
  32. PodPeople Member

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    Diedre (Brousseau) on this divorce list (right under Clarisse)
    Operation Clambake Message Board :: View topic - Int Base divorce and family breakup list

    What we'll have to wait to hear (I hope in a court transcript) is what he knows and can verify from the last 2 or 3 years, as in under statute of limitation time frame.
  33. Anonymous Member

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    We're beginning to see exactly how Scientology will be taken down.

    Every person that blows takes away a little tidbit of information. This may be information that others may not know about, and adds to the collective.

    Think about that, Davey. Enough people have gotten out to be able to piece together a full, day-by-day accounting of Scientology affairs. They know the data, the lines, the methods: THEY KNOW YOUR SECRETS.

    All you have to do is piss them off enough and they'll talk.

    Oh, wait - that's already started.
  34. fisherman Member

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    Hubbard's final years and death - Why We Protest Wiki

    Robert Vaughn Young:

  35. PodPeople Member

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  36. Anonymous Member

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    Worse, one of them took the keys to the whiskey [STRIKE]cabinet[/STRIKE] vault!
  37. DeathHamster Member

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    I really hope that Davie is keeping a diary. Afterward, it would be nice to know exactly which were the absolutely worst shitty days in his life, and his thoughts during the slide.
  38. ARC Member

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    OP updated
  39. xenubarb Member

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    Aw, dammit! I get those MRs confused...
  40. Anonymous Member

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    Two MR's and three celebrities called Michael.

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