Sunderland Rates Relief based talk

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Roland, if you don't want to work collaboratively, and think it's okay to screw with others ability to get FOI requests through, that is entirely your right. However, if you want to work alone, then your near-demands on others to hand out large volumes of flyers is hypocritical in the extreme.

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An that is what in today's money?

Also you forget this would of been about 10 years or more ago, when people barely know bout Sci.

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I'd like an answer too, without the fuck offs please.
Why did you send an FOI request for the same information to one filed by someone else earlier in the month and was already being delt with? Precisely what did you think you were achieving? If you aren't going to answer to that then can I take it that you have learned your lesson or are you still hell bent on fucking things up in this way in future?

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Because I was advised to do so by someone in Sunderland Council? How is that for an answer? I asked someone working for the Guardian newspaper to do the same but it hasn't happened yet.

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If you think that in these days the whole issue is settled because of broad participation by all people on the Internet then give up now and go home. Do you think that doing the same today and giving out only 1500 leaflets is going to make a difference? The word "wankers" comes to mind.

I suggest you beg OG to come to life again if you want to get anything done.

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Ok guys (yea am kind of leader fagging here sorry).

Every one down tools we don't need to do ANY MORE regard Scientology Rates Relief, Roland you can take over now thanks.

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OK so thats sorted out then , lets agree to disagree .


One thing I want to find out about is Gateshead council's position.

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WTF is going on in this thread?

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Roland being a total 'wanker' doing an duplicate FOI and thinking himself better than the rest of us.

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They haven't given any rates relief but at the same time, maybe nobody has applied for it as the building is not fit for use.

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Suppose the Charities Commission did the same. Do you think the situation would remain as it is?

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OG stood down because of Anonymous telling them to do so and claiming they were the new people to get things done. If that has changed and Anonymous are now few in number and toothless then please tell that to OG and beg them to regroup and resume their actions. Seriously!

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FFS, he IS better than the rest of us. His name, it is HYPHENATED.

That there is a sign of quality.

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DAMN IT, where is The Shadow?, he was the guy dealing with that wasn't he?.

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Yes I no that Roland but are they giving a grant or a CPO .

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Anonymous don't need to do no 'begging'

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Somebody needs to calm down and breathe. Maybe take a walk or something.

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It's a shit answer, for reasons which should be obvious to you.

You have a real problem in admitting your loose scatter-cannon fuckups.
What's more important is whether people still have cause for concern in furture, when they start something and bring it to the attention of this collaboration, such as an FOI request, a dialogue with a journalist or politician, that you aren't going to go all OCD again and fuck things up.

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It's only double-barreled, not triple-barreled like the best people.

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Lol. Apt.

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I think Anonymous needs to disband and hand things back to OG.

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No I don't think the issue is settled, far from, BUT people KNOW things like FOI's, Councils, the Government etc take TIME to and doesn't happen over night. So 'we' keep working away.

Giving out small batches of (1500) fliers yea I do, and will CONTINUE to make a difference.

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Egofag much?

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Roland, stop being naughty and winding up the children. They don't understand adult humour.

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Anonymous needs to either do the work and get the results they accused OG of not achieving or stand down and hand things back to them. OG are old and some of us are ill but we can regroup and achieve things. We had high hopes in Anonymous and were relieved to finally relinquish control and retire from the battle but if we have to fight on then we will.

Please, take a few days to work out what you want to do but in the end do not get in the way of OG if you are not up to the fight.

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I've not finished yet plus I have run out of beer and feeling mean !!

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Ok, you want to play that fucking card, I'll fucking play it too.

I know a good number of us anons are ALSO ill and disabled, yet we STILL do what we can. So you can SHUT THE FUCK UP RIGHT NOW Roland.

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Then join OG. Stu too. Then we can wheel ourselves around and frighten the shit out of the clams.

Edit: Be nice to me and I'll make you an honorary OG.

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As for the amount of fliers you seem to expect us to hand out, I for one am NOT be able to 'carry' 15.000 to 35.000 A4 fliers, that amount would not even FIT in my fliers case.

You are totally fucking full of yourself Roland

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I was happily lurking this thread for a while, but now it stinks of fanatics and self-importance. People do what they can, when they can, and for the reasons they see fit. Keep shining your OCD armour OG knights. Medals are waiting

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So, not content with fagging up FOI requests, and a refusal to reassure people that you won't reapeat this stupidity, you instead feel it neccessary to get yourself off on fagging up a working thread in order to divert attention from your own fail. This is not alt.religion.scientology.useless.bickering.old.faggots.
Stay on target.

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You meant ESMB. a.r.s. is the Babble Schwartz appreciation society.

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If Anonymous actually ever did tell the OG to stop, it'll have been because of the sort of faggotry exhibited in this thread.

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Easy folks.

We all do what we can.

If you want to do something, do it. If not, then don't.

We're all on the same side (except for OSA lurkers - hai guys!).

Duplicate FOI requests make no difference under the FOI Act. They're also easily done, given the number of requests in play.

tl;dr: chill.

Love and kisses to all,

- WT.

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ITT: Roland is well on his way to becoming the new Shadow; large levels of fail, full of himself egofag, causing drama.

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Thanks.

leaflet updated.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/329-...-rates-relief-based-talk-71253/3/#post1340394

Edit: Much cleaner - much nicer. I'd be happy to hand this out myself on the streets of Sunderland.

Did I say "magical"?

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Do it then, anonymous are clearly totally useless, you OG's are far better than us.

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Meanwhile I've sent a number of local businesses a variation of the leaflet I was happy with. Don't know if it will be more effective than handing people fliers in the streets though. Still it was targeted at local Sunderland businesses so it should be relevant to them and given many on my list were local owned businesses it should also be relevant to them as residents too.

Have to agree with Roland when it comes to leafleting in the streets it is a numbers game, however I know from experience just 5000 leaflets multiple people to get them to the target area and or transport. I've never shifted more than 1000 leaflets in a day BUT then I've never protested in a large city so I defer to experience.

Also consider that by now most people think they know what you're on about - "that cult thing" - so the signs should be specific that it's about Sunderland and Council Rates (council tax is more emotively catching) and then the cult. "Sunderland Rate payers subsidizing cult" or even "Should Sunderland Council Tax payers subsidize cult?" etc. The signs don't need to mention scientology but could replace cult with scientology for same effect.

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I know what you mean with this leaflet numbers thing. Us OG used to be happy if we shifted 200 leaflets in a day for eight of us but then we went to Poole where the cult was a big issue and I had printed off about 5000 of them (and they were fucking heavy to carry) and we shifted the lot. It can be done. You'd be so fucking surprised.

To shift that number of leaflets in Sunderland then you have got to keep it topical. You need a big sign to grab peoples attention. "You are paying Scientology's rates in Sunderland" or "Sunderland People Pay Scientology's Rates" or whatever is needed to grab people by the nuts and think WHAT THE FUCK ??? and they will come over and snatch the leaflets from you. But you have got to keep the leaflets focussed on Sunderland as well and that is why you need a leaflet such as the one I wrote and not a more general one. You need this one.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/329-...-rates-relief-based-talk-71253/3/#post1340394

If you get it right then people will barge their way through to you and snatch leaflets off you. You have got to focus your message on them so the leaflet MUST address the people of Sunderland as mine does.

You can shift 15,000 in a day. You really can even though that seems inconceivable. And once 15,000 flyers are out there then the local authority switchboard will be jammed for days and this stupid decision will be reversed.

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Not quite. I don't think he's doxed anyone yet. Also, Saddo was at least amusing, unlike Roland.