SP Times - "The abuse behind Scientology's facade"

SP Times - "The abuse behind Scientology's facade"

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The abuse behind Scientology's facade - St. Petersburg Times

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Holy shit. SP Times be laying the smackdown on Scienfaggotry. I hope they cover fair game at some point.

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They covered fair game in the first installment quite well, quoting Hubbard directly.

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Unrelenting. This is beautiful.

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SP Times are out for blood. They're not going to quit until the cult says 'uncle'.

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nice

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keeps getting better
Go SP Times! stick it to em'

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I hope Time magazine join in the brawl as well, that would make this all the more beautiful.

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MILLIONS are seeing who you really are David. MILLIONS. YOU HAVE DESTROYED SCIENTOLOGY!

When you salute RON, say "done sir" and end salute, remember ^THIS is what you have accomplished. We all appreciate your dedication to our mission. THANK YOU!

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NOICE!

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Death by a thousand printed articles.

edit: last two sentences of the editorial are great

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I wonder if Bilirakis has read this article. He's one of the congresscritters who signed that stupid letter to France, and CW is in his jurisdiction.

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Wow, an editorial too!?!

Just....too...awesome!

Yup, that'd be ol Lron Flubbernutz and his demented 'tech' alright!









God, I can't stop smiling!

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I was initially disappointed that the Times seemed to place the blame for the scifag faggotry solely on the shoulders of tiny DiM. They have come through in spades with this single quote:

I'm still disappointed that there wasn't a single reference to anon.

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"Scientologists are punished for infractions and forced to write detailed confessions, sometimes about trumped-up allegations, which are held by the church in so-called "ethics files." They expect these written confessionals to remain confidential, but the church released the defectors' files to the Times, apparently caring less about maintaining confidentiality than about undermining the credibility of their detractors."



"The church denies much of the information provided to the Times by the defectors. To respond by calling these longtime top officials liars, opening their confidential files and producing their former spouses to denounce them reflects Scientology's long-standing strategy to deny and attack when its actions are questioned."



This, as much as anything, and more than most, may well prove the undoing of the Evil $pace Alien Mind Control CULT.

Make this fact as public as possible.

ALL $cilons and prospective $cilons need to be made FULLY AWARE of this breech of the most fundamental and foundational Trust.


The fears of so many $cilons have been confirmed. It has now come to light that the supposedly 'confidential' files are nothing more than sources of BLACKMAIL MATERIAL should the CULT ever wish to coerce their 'parishoners' at some point in time.


It's like making a sex tape. Foolish.

Because it will end up on the Interwebs.


The Evil $pace Alien Mind Control CULT is declaring loudly, publicly...."You cannot trust us with any confidential material. We will betray the confidence of those whom we choose whenever we want."


I can't think of a bigger FootBullet than this.

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^
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THIS. NO JOKE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE BEING FED THIS STORY WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT... IS THIS THE SAME SP TIMES THAT LITTLE DAVIE WAS TALKING SHIT ABOUT LAST TIME AT THE 2000 IAS CEREMONY BRAGGING THEY BEAT THE LISA MCPHERSON TRUST AND THEY KICKED THE SP TIMES INTO SUMISSION

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dammit, barb! don't mention gus when you know he's going to have to distance himself from the cult!

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/r vid link

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I do love the cancer quote that other people have already highlighted, but this one is a close second...

"The IRS isn't likely to reconsider the tax exemption, but it should."

Yes. It certainly should. Let's hope this helps.

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damn So much to keep up with. my head is gonna espload.

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Unlikely, if their last piece about scientology is an example of their present attitude.

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Many of the old timers probably still have a bad taste in their mouths from all the lawlsuits in the 90s. If they see that the cult is now vulnerable to attack without much of a chance of getting sued again, they might just pile on.

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We are ready!

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DIAF. It's not about you.

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UNSTOPPABLE!

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Being a part of Anonymous means you don't get to take credit. Think of it this way: you get to be a part of a shadowy (non-)group that secretly manipulates things behind the scenes.


We run this.

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So we can secretly consider any win as ours.

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I would argue that anything that takes scientology down a peg is a victory for everybody except those committing abuses and crimes within scientology.

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THIS!

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Indeed.

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nevamind, found it. Has this been mailed to Tobin and Childs? They might be interested in the accusations that DM is spewing.

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OK

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I believe this is relevant to this thread. Did a search and failed at finding it posted elsewhere.

Forced Confessions | www.scientology-cult.com

Thoughtful, of Scientology-Cult dot com, gives a detailed account of how Slappy Miscavige uses violence not only to control the present behavior, but how he adds to that violence, psychological games to get you to admit to the misdeeds he has declared that you have committed.

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This just occurred to me: the reason David Miscavage is so pissed about being exposed isn't just that it's bad press. He is only pissed now because he can no longer beat people anymore.

It's not that he is embarrassed about it... heck I'm sure he was proud of his bullying.

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This is money.

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BUMP because "There is a cancer at the core of Scientology and that has not changed" AND the reason we know that is because of the testimonials of Rathbun, Rinder, deVocht, Scobee and other in The Truth Rundown Series.

Rathbun has done a very good job of promoting what he wants from that series and people have eaten up how he's spun it.

The time has come for you all to realize that even though Rathbun, Rinder, and some of the other people interviewed want you to think that the only thing wrong with Scientology is David Miscavige----that's not the case.

Scientology has always been abusive, conniving, and deadly. That didn't start with David Miscavige and it wouldn't end with him either if someone else stepped up to fill his teeny shoes.


Here's the editorial in it's entirety for those of you who never read it:

"In recent years the Church of Scientology worked hard to present a kinder, gentler image to the public, claiming it had cast aside the criminal activities, dirty tricks and abusive behavior of the past that brought it widespread condemnation and sent some of its former leaders to prison. But a St. Petersburg Times special report this week revealed the reality behind the new facade: At its core, the Church of Scientology has not changed. It is an organization that uses intimidation and brutality to control its employees, places financial ambition above spiritual service to its members and stops at nothing to undermine its critics.

Times staff writers Joe Childs and Thomas C. Tobin interviewed former high-ranking officials of the Church of Scientology who have defected from the church. Their independent accounts, told for the first time, provide an unprecedented view of the secretive top tier of Scientology management and the bullying leadership style of David Miscavige, a high school dropout who muscled his way to the top of the international organization after the death of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard in 1986. Among the disturbing accounts told by Miscavige's former top aides:

• Miscavige beat and incessantly criticized top executives to subjugate them. Those executives in turn used that style of intimidation on other church employees, creating a management culture of physical violence and humiliation.

• Church officials lied and covered up their mistreatment of Lisa McPherson, a Scientologist who was detained in a guarded room at church facilities in Clearwater after suffering a mental breakdown. She died after 17 days in the "care" of church staffers, including secretaries, security guards and an unlicensed doctor. One of the defectors, Marty Rathbun, now acknowledges that as police investigators moved in, he destroyed incriminating documents containing details of McPherson's last days.

• Scientologists are punished for infractions and forced to write detailed confessions, sometimes about trumped-up allegations, which are held by the church in so-called "ethics files." They expect these written confessionals to remain confidential, but the church released the defectors' files to the Times, apparently caring less about maintaining confidentiality than about undermining the credibility of their detractors.

• The church, which needs vast sums of money to finance its worldwide growth, charges parishioners hundreds of dollars an hour for counseling sessions called "auditing," more than $13,000 for auditing training, and has repackaged old Scientology texts for resale to members.

The Times articles also provided new details about some church history — for example, the church's all-out effort to win a tax exemption granted to religious organizations from the Internal Revenue Service. The church overwhelmed the federal agency with thousands of lawsuits, raising suspicions that the exemption finally was granted in 1993 because of relentless intimidation and pressure rather than an interpretation of the tax code. The exemption has cost government at all levels untold millions in lost tax revenue. The IRS isn't likely to reconsider the tax exemption, but it should.

The church denies much of the information provided to the Times by the defectors. To respond by calling these longtime top officials liars, opening their confidential files and producing their former spouses to denounce them reflects Scientology's long-standing strategy to deny and attack when its actions are questioned.

For years, church leaders have claimed that modern Scientology is law-abiding, open to everyone and eager to build bridges in the community. International celebrities and local politicians have bought into the story of change, joining church officials for their galas and community events at Scientology's spiritual headquarters in Clearwater as if all were well. The Times series, many other media reports and criminal investigations of Scientology that are under way in several foreign countries tell a different story. There is a cancer at the core of Scientology, and that has not changed."


The SPTimes isn't buying the Marty Hugbox crap about how Scientology was wonderful when Hubbard was around and I'm not either.



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It could still change you know. Any belief system can. Scientology isn't likely to change because of the aforementioned cancer. But that doesn't mean it can't change.

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But it can't change unless it's not Scientology anymore. Hubbard made sure of that.