SP Times Larry Anderson wants his $ back (with luscious audio)

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WOODEN ??? I am sure you mean BIONIC !



If anyone knows where I can get the optional replacement arm with the compartment that has a gas mask that pops out, pm me.

Re: SP Times Larry Anderson wants his $ back (with luscious audio)

PART I


PART 2


PART 3
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uXfupFt-zo"]YouTube- LARRY ANDERSON DEMANDS $120,000 REFUND FROM CULT LEADER TOMMY DAVIS. PART 3[/ame]

PART 4
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hUl7Eox37k"]YouTube- LARRY ANDERSON DEMANDS $120,000 REFUND FROM CULT LEADER TOMMY DAVIS. PART 4[/ame]

Re: SP Times Larry Anderson wants his $ back (with luscious audio)

Awesome ... tubeage.

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I just listened to the tapes... and jesus christ... that footage was orgasmic...

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what was that like....sloppy 256th?

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I know, it's really quite something. I'm amazed at how well Larry spoke in that interview - he is one intelligent son of a bitch. Tommy, you are so fucking naive and retarded for trying to pull that shit.

The St Petersburg Times - well done.

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There are some fascinating comments to this article.

Piobair wrote:
"The City of Clearwater should be dissolved; instead, we'll have North Largo, South Dunedin, and waaay over there; Hubbardville. Then if they want fire/police/EMS they can bloody well pay for it themselves rather than relying on me to subsidize a "church" I don't believe in through my taxes!"

An ex-$ci might be able to address this one

Oscillatory Frequency wrote:
"Could an ex-Scilon elaborate on the purpose -- besides the obvious (a trap) -- of payment on account (in advance)? We know about the tax incentive but are course prices held at rates at the time the money is put on account? Is this system open to reciprocal abuse, e.g., certain wealthy people paying into it, claiming it as a tax deduction, then getting part of the money back? (Seems unlikely getting anything back from this cult but...) Tommy seems to want to accuse Larry of intending to do this, as if it is standard practice. For current members of the cult, stories of this type should be a flashing sign: DO NOT PAY ON ACCOUNT. If you absolutely need to take a course that'll teach you to remove a sticky cluster of BTs or exteriorize to Jupiter for a departed relative's implant ceremony, save up for it yourself. Don't make your Sciloontology your bank and financial planner, as much as they'd like to be EVERYTHING in your life."

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The regges/registrars (salesmen) of scientology are quick to point out several Hubbardisms to improve their own stats. The main one being that Hubbard reputedly said something like "when you start a flow, it will get bigger". Some sort of idea that if you put a little money on account, then you'll make LOTS more money and be able to put more on account, and eventually you'll have the service paid for before you know it.

And yes, sometimes they raise prices so people want to lock in the lower price by paying for that in advance.

Also, sometimes people pay for a "package". So you pay for like 5 services (discounted) and maybe you only do 1 so you still have the value of the other 4 "on account".

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I was telling someone today about the Larry Anderson thing and thought about this point...

The Church of Scientology is proud that they are NOT like other religions. For example, they don't require a blindly-given 10% tithe of your income. Instead they believe in "good exchange" and you only give money when you get something in exchange. So people pay for just the services they get, rather than paying a percentage of their income, or putting money in the collection plate at church on Sunday.

So then Tommy Davis is chatting with Larry Anderson and pulls this "we don't have to give you back any donations" crap, like no one would ask for their money back out of the collection plate.

But where is Scientology's pride in being a "fair exchange" organization?

That, of course, flies out the window whenever it suits them.

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YouTube- Two Dollars (Part 1)

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Couldn't find previous answer to this: Aside from IAS, Idle Orgs nonspecific "donations", when a sci makes payments "on his/her account" for specific courses/services, like Larry, that takes time to get to do, are there any financially legal ramifications if those funds are used by sci management for something else, like building funds or private investigators?

I'm wondering 2 specific points: 1) IRS "super secret special agreement", if this would violate said agreement and the IRS would be interested
and 2) if maybe sci funds are getting more depleted than we know.

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Comingling of funds?

Illegal financial practices?

Fraudulent tax reporting?

Outright Theft?

Extortion?



Probably all of the above, but...



It's kinda like an unreported murder where no one has yet found the body.


If noone is investigating...it's like the crime never happened.


One thing the CULT has accomplished - so far - is that they have been successful in making sure that no government entities have made a full and complete audit and investigation of their practices.

Once several District Attorneys from across the nation get involved, the IRS will come in.

At that point, the CULT will likely be finished.



Until then..."No body. No crime.".

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My understanding is that they donate the money and hold it on account for the tax deduction involved. It is basically a legal way for them to pay for services with out paying tax on the money that is used for services. That way interest (if any) is not taxable to the person that donates unless they are donating over a certain amount.

Because the "church" gets the money in advance they can use that money to buy real things, because basically what they offer does not cost them anything because they don't pay staff. So their expenses are basically buildings and keeping the lights on. The looser (other than the scientologist who is giving money) is legitimate charities that could actually use the money for... charity because people of a certain income bracket are going to make charitable deductions anyway for their own personal tax advantages.

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Sup Oswald.

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HowStuffWorks "Claiming Tax Deductions"

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You're right insofar as labeling a quid pro quo transaction a "donation" is a legal fiction, but wrong as to the certainty should the matter be relitigated. After Hernandez v. Commissioner, in which the Supreme Court held that Scientology auditing payments were quid pro quo donations, Scientology went back to the drawing board and initiated more litigation with a new argument in the 11th Circuit (Powell v. United States). Here, Scientology conceded the quid pro quo finding in Hernandez, and instead argued that the IRS was administratively inconsistent when it denied Scientologists’ auditing payments while allowing similar deductions by other religious adherents. Scientology offered examples of quid pro quo transactions commonly present in other religions that the IRS viewed as gifts. These included payments made by members of the Jewish religion for High Holy Day tickets, which allow them to participate in religious services; mandatory tithes paid by members of the Mormon religion, which are required for participation in religious services; stipends paid by members of the Catholic religion in exchange for special masses; and rental fees paid by members of certain Protestant religions for the privilege of sitting in a specific pew at religious services.

The district court dismissed Scientology’s argument outright, relying on the Supreme Court’s rejection of Scientology’s administrative inconsistency argument in Hernandez. The 11th Circuit reversed, noting that the Supreme Court had rejected Scientology’s administrative inconsistency argument not because the argument was not viable but because of a scant factual record, which could now be established on remand. The district court never got an opportunity to consider this question, however, because shortly after, the Scientology / IRS agreement was announced and all litigation ended. But should Scientology ever lose its auditing payment deduction privilege, a new round of litigation would ensue, picking up where Powell left off.

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Thank you. Posted to ESMB: YouTube- Larry Anderson Demands $120,000 Refund From Tommy Davis

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They're just Hubbard's writings, nothing special. That's the basis of the contracts that they make people sign.



He told all those dumb wogs that he stepped down in 1966, while continuing to run every detail. He pulled the same again a few years later, hoping that no one remembered the first time. That claim and 11 stooges willing to be thrown under the bus did save him when Snow White went sour.

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Jessica Feshbach's blatant threat is more evidence of a brutal disconnection policy.

And these two fuckers know there is a tape recorder on the table! WTF? What do they do when they know they have privacy? Get the brass knuckles out?

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Did anyone else just get angry while listening to those tapes?

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I got bored.

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Good boy. Now go find your MU's.

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What's an "MU?"

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Misunderstood words.
You know, if you yawn or get bored reading stuff, it's a tell-tale that you have 1 or more words that you don't know the definition of. Go back, listen to the tapes again from the point where you got bored, and look up every word you don't fully understand. Fully! It might even be the word "the" or "and" etc.
Standard Hubbard tech, it works and it helps people.

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Not me. I've been visited by Tommy & his slut twice.

Tommy is DM's babysitter and does what he's told. If DM told Tommy to get on his knees and lick his sweaty balls, Tommy would do it without question. He wants DM's approval and wants to outshine whatever legacy Mike Rinder left behind.

The tapes are yet another example of the cruel, mindless manipulation & tricks of the trade that OSA has used, and perfected, over the years.

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If you get bored reading the above, I can't help further. Maybe teh tech doesn't work then?

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Obviously.

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playing dumb

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or herro answers his own posts, trying to sound woggish, and get stats for the post for points program

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Not really.

And the sad part is, many mods here follow him slavishly.

The whole thing makes the Stockholm Syndrome look like child's play.

Re: SP Times Larry Anderson wants his $ back (with luscious audio)

Tikk, what's the citation for this litigation?

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945 F.2d 374 (11th Cir. 1991)

945 F2d 374 Powell v. United States | Open Jurist

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Hernandez v. Commissioner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Court Decision on Religious Tax Deductions: Hernandez v. IRS

HERNANDEZ V. COMMISSIONER, 490 U. S. 680 (1989) -- US Supreme Court Cases from Justia & Oyez

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Hi Oswald. I'm a mod. I can see when you post.

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Box Turtle Bulletin mentions Larry Anderson, star of $cientology recruitment video.
Box Turtle Bulletin Star Of Scientology’s Recruitment Video Leaves Church

Comments open.

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No, I'm glad they offered direct proof of what you have to go through to try to leave that cult. It's quite instructive for anyone who might be thinking of joining.

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Here are my two cents...

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Re: SP Times Larry Anderson wants his $ back (with luscious audio)

the next time he drops by for a visit tell him he's doing well with this goal and to please carry on

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I just finished listening to all the tapes and the radio interview and Larry Anderson KICKS ASS. In the most leveled headed possible way, Larry dismantles Jessica and Tommy. He actually had them speechless when he explained why "management" was corrupt. His example was that he has 4 copies of the Basics that he paid for, and each time he was told, "This is it." In fact, they were still selling the "incorrect" version WHILE they were working on the "correct" version. "That's corrupt," said Larry Andreson.

And Tommy and Jessica said nothing. Because it IS corrupt. There's really no other way to describe it.

Way to go Larry. You have another fan (among many, I am sure).