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SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

Discussion in 'Media' started by Anonymous, Jun 12, 2010.

  1. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    This is great. Endless Poonage opportunities on these stories of the 13th and 14th! Spread the word, use the videos. Thank you Tommy Dingbat for such great quotes.
  2. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Being covered here as well:
    CampusProgress.org | news | Former Scientologists Report Being Pressured into Having Abortions by Church

    This one from Natalie Hagemo nataliehagemo.blogspot.com
    Natalie Hagemo - Writer Aka: Left handed Suburban Diva!: Leaving the Church of Scientology

    and Babbles weighs in:
    What about adoption, David Miscavige? How come there is abortion but no adoption?
  3. TrevAnon Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    And another one out:

    Church of Scientology: Natalie and Shelby - St. Petersburg Times
  4. Anonymous Member

  5. Anonymous Member

  6. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Great to hear. All the other articles show up for me but on that one I just get the image at the top and some ads and stuff on the right. Same problem with both Chrome and Explorer. Anyone else having this problem?
  7. RightOn Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    I noticed this win comment:

    "I am currently in "good standing" with the Church here in Clearwater but this is the last straw. Against clear instructions from the Church I have watched the videos and have no doubt as to their veracity. Now that I've made up my mind and talked to my family I feel a great weight has come off my shoulders."

    It's good to see just how effective these articles can be :)
  8. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More


    Same for me. Can't get that article.
  9. Anonymous Member

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  11. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Beat me to it. I just got this reply from their webmaster.

    "Oops- that's because it's not supposed to be online, it was a set-up file containing the images that was used by the print designer. I'll take it down now. Today's story can be found here:
    She fought Scientology for the child they wanted to abort - St. Petersburg Times

    With videos and other information about the story subjects here:
    Scientology: Natalie Hagemo and daughter Shelby LaFreniere video | Tampabay.com St. Petersburg Times

    Thanks for letting us know!"
  12. anon555 Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    i am so sick and tired of TD's "we cover all medical expenses" line. I would really like to see the next reporter who interviews him push this issue.
  13. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Youtubage as promised:

    No Kids Allowed – Intro to the St. Petersburg Times report June 2010:
    YouTube - No Kids Allowed - St. Petersburg Times report June 2010
    Claire Headley – St. Petersburg Times report June 2010:
    YouTube - Claire Headley -- St. Petersburg Times report June 2010
    Laura Dieckman - St. Petersburg Times report June 2010:
    YouTube - Laura Dieckman - St. Petersburg Times report June 2010
    Natalie Hagemo - St. Petersburg Times report June 2010:
    YouTube - Natalie Hagemo - St. Petersburg Times report June 2010
    Sunny Pereira - St. Petersburg Times report June 2010:
    YouTube - Sunny Pereira - St. Petersburg Times report June 2010
  14. Sponge Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Updated my previous post of yesterdays frontpage pdf/image resources:
    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-m...d-abortions-sea-org-more-67919/7/#post1266736

    Frontpage PDF for Monday's edition is now up:
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    PDF: http://www.tampabay.com/specials/publication/Times_1A/20100614.pdf

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  15. subgenius Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Notice only written responses.
    High school (if he made it that far) drop out Tommy (how's that for a name with gravitas?) Davis won't be interviewed soon i think.
    But your point is quite valid and important. The media needs to ask the obvious follow up questions, and verify claims. What a concept for journalism!
    As you young'ens would say "dox or gtfo"
    we need more of this
  16. anon555 Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    i wonder if DM has banned TD from doing live interviews, since the written responses DM can approve
  17. 1957 Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Tampabay.com has now posted an editorial (dated June 15th) which makes a key succinct point:

    Scientology's family-friendly image contrasts with pressure for abortions - St. Petersburg Times
  18. gizmogirl Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Time to get busy with the harpoons. The clams are out in full force in the comments section, they are claiming the Sea Org is a religious order, and asking who would be sympathetic to a nun who took a vow of chastity then got pregnant.

    They are also slamming the women who came forward as promiscuous and sluts.
  19. Sponge Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    "ElizabethB" managed to fill two+ comment fields within 15 minutes of the article being published. That would include the time it takes to read the article.
    Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V tech.
  20. Triumph Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    I think its safe to assume ElizabethB never bothered to read the articles or watch the videos.. he first response is cut and past job from another article.


    then again anything Tommy Davis spits out is a cut and paste job..
  21. Sponge Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Randy Sly at Catholic Online delivers...
    The Unanswered Question: Did Scientology Force Abortions? - U.s. - Catholic Online

    intro snippet...
  22. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    anything tommy davis spits out is probably semen
  23. Anonymous Member

  24. BigBeard Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Maybe I missed it somewhere going through all the leaked stuff over the years, but where in the HCOPLs does it actually lay out the "vows" not to have children the sock puppets in the SPT comments keep bringing up?

    Or is this just 'smoke and mirrors' on their part to try and confuse the issue when they compare Nuns and Sea Orgers getting pregnant?

    BigBeard
  25. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    There are NO vows to not get pregnant in the Sea Org. You are told if you wish to have a child you will have to leave the Sea Org. Of course you are coerced into having an abortion and they make you feel like that is the only logical solution.

    When Sea Org recruiters are recruiting people who question the "no kids", they are told if and when they wish to have kids they will leave the Sea Org to raise the kids and can return to the Sea Org.

    I can't believe how these OSA bots are now trying to attack Hagemo, not surprised though. Leave it to a cult to attack their victims for speaking out, disgusting. Show me someone who doesn't have "skeletons in their closet". Whether she or any of the women who bravely spoke out do or don't, doesn't change that the freaking cult coerced abortions and abuses people.
  26. DeathHamster Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Are they dumping dox from the "confessional" PC Folders again?
  27. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Too bad his mom wasn't allowed to join the Sea Org.
  28. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    That, or outright making crap up. OSA has been known to do that. Cult is so typical. Trying to discredit and attack the victims.
  29. DeathHamster Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Well, they must have crimes...

    (Had my share of handlers chanting in my face "You have crimes, you're a criminal, you have crimes..." They never answered when I asked "What crimes?" [And how can you "have a crime" anyway?])
  30. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

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  32. theLastAnon Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    A tip of the hat to you good sir. Thanks for doing this.

    Would you mind sharing what program you used to rip these?
  33. theLastAnon Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    This is nice. From the rotating front page image at Catholic Online. Go see for yourself and smile.
    Catholic Online


    wwwcatholicorgscreencap.jpg



    Front page headline/link
    wwwcatholicorgscreencap.jpg

    If you had told me Anon would ever be on the front page of Catholic Online, I'd have called you a bigoted moonbat. Don't let anyone ever tell you we are not making a difference.
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  35. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    OSA spamming the comments and attacking those who spoke out, shows the effect this exposure is having on the cult. Ship is sinking, glug glug glug...
  36. anonhuff Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    The toothpaste is out of the tube. I repeat; the toothpaste is out of the tube.
  37. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

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  38. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    I wonder how much popcorn we could pop if we put the kernels in a big tub over DM's head.
  39. Obi-Wan-anon Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    It was, in a way.

    Remember, to the cult, financial assistance means money that helps the cult.

    BTW, PREnatal care means taking care of the child BEFORE it's born. Nothing said about care AFTER the child is born.

    And the medical care? That's where the abortion comes in...

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