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SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

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  1. Anonymous Member

    SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Apparently, this will be the most hard-hitting yet.

    Mod Edit: Articles and video are now out.

    June 13th

    Articles

    Church of Scientology: No kids allowed - St. Petersburg Times
    Scientology and abortion - St. Petersburg Times
    Church of Scientology: The Headley Lawsuits - St. Petersburg Times

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    Videos



    Scientology: Laura Dieckman video | Tampabay.com St. Petersburg Times
    Scientology: Claire Headley video | Tampabay.com St. Petersburg Times
    Scientology: Sunny Pereira video | Tampabay.com St. Petersburg Times







    Response

    CoS Letter in Response | Tampabay.com St. Petersburg Times
    CoS Statements in Response | Tampabay.com St. Petersburg Times





    June 14th

    Articles

    Taking her daughter - St. Petersburg Times


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    Video

    Scientology: Natalie Hagemo and daughter Shelby LaFreniere video | Tampabay.com St. Petersburg Times

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zazAscq-KtM"]YouTube - Natalie Hagemo - St. Petersburg Times report June 2010[/ame]

    Response

    Church of Scientology's response - St. Petersburg Times


    Media Coverage

    St Petersburg Times Editorial - Scientology's family-friendly image contrasts with pressure for abortions - St. Petersburg Times

    Does the Church of Scientology Force Abortions On Its Pregnant Members? - Gawker Media

    Former Scientologists Claim Church Forced Them to Have Abortions - AOL News

    Coerced abortion inside the Church of Scientology - Feministing

    CampusProgress.org | news | Former Scientologists Report Being Pressured into Having Abortions by Church

    The Unanswered Question: Did Scientology Force Abortions? - U.S. - Catholic Online



    Women Say Scientology Forced Them to Have Abortions | Liveblog | Christianity Today


    Scientology and coerced abortions - Broadsheet - Salon.com

    Women reveal accounts of forced abortion in Scientology - Wikinews, the free news source

    Scientologists forced us to abort, claim women- Hindustan Times

    Former Scientologists Say The Church Pressured Them To Get Abortions | The Frisky

    Another Christian Mag: WORLDmag.com | Community | Blog Archive | “No kids allowed” in Scientology

    The Morning After: Atlas Sucked Edition - The Sexist - Washington City Paper

    "This Tiny Speck Of Nuisance" - The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan


    Beliefnet: Scientology and Abortion


    Illinois Federation for Right to Life - Woman sues Church of Scientology for forced abortions, human trafficking

    Renewed Allegations of Forced Abortion in Church of Scientology

    St. Petersburg Times Investigates Alleged Abortion Pressure In Church Of Scientology

    Ex-members Say Scientology Leaders Pressured Them to Have Abortions - Politics Daily



    Blogs

    Natalie Hagemo - Writer Aka: Left handed Suburban Diva!: Leaving the Church of Scientology

    Woman sues Church of Scientology for forced abortions, human trafficking by Jill Stanek

    What about adoption, David Miscavige? How come there is abortion but no adoption? - Barbara Schwarz

    STAND FOR LIFE: Scientology Members State They Were Forced To Have Abortions

    Scientologists Forced Devout Followers to Get Abortions (!?!) - Alternet

    Big Hollywood

    Feminists For Choice

    Scientology and Coerced Abortions - Covenant News

    Scientology Sect Ostracizes Pregnant Women? - The Daily Beast

    Celebrity Feetwin

    Scientology and forced abortions - atlmalcontent

    Forced Abortions, Courtesy Of Scientology? - Jezebel

    Abortion and the Church of Scientology - The Good Atheist

    Get Religion

    Religious FreeDumb Watch

    Republican Women Bloggers: Scientology--disgusting and disturbing

    Pro-Life Pastors' Corner: Renewed Allegations of Forced Abortion in Church of Scientology

    St. Petersburg Times Investigates Alleged Abortion Pressure In Church Of Scientology | Doctors Banding Together 4 Change | Doctors supporting political candidates
  2. Anonymous Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    TEASE.

    Any morsel you'd care to share?

    Do tell... spectulation...fine- just tell.

    Thank you.

    P.S. Don't be a dick.
  3. Anonymous Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Well, if you really want idle speculation: Could DM have been "overboarded"?

    Enquiring Minds want to know.
  4. eddieVroom Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

  5. TinyDancer Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    I believe it will be about coerced abortions.
  6. Consensus Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Can't wait!
  7. Anonymous Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    I really do hope it is about coerced abortion, that is a hot topic and a dirty secret of the Sea Org.

    The SP Times often posts their stories online the night before. Will be checking tonight. Can't wait!!!!! WIN
  8. re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    If it's anything like past coverage the first article should be up on the St. Pete Times website in about 6 hours.

    Mods - this thread title could use a date in it.
  9. Random guy Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Oooooo, looks like it could be another bad month in a long string of bad months for the cult. This really haven't been a good year for them.
  10. RightOn Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    I feel all tingly!
  11. Anonymous Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Take your finger out of the power socket.
    But i am looking foward to the article.
  12. Milo T Wyke Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Ooh! Sounds tasty.
  13. xenubarb Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    But...but...THEY BOUGHT A BUNCHA NEW BUILDINGS!

    How could anyone with such nice MEST possibly be bad?
  14. adhocrat Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Well, obviously it MEST with their heads
  15. Ersatz Global Moderator

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPbu5LtXo4&feature=related[/ame]
  16. re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

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  17. theLastAnon Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

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  18. RightOn Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    classic!
  19. subgenius Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Nice change from the Sunday NYT:
    Bagel, coffee, and the SP Times.
    I have a reason to live another day.
  20. theLastAnon Member

  21. RightOn Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    thanks for the heads up.
    MAN! That was a great teaser.
    The B& W film really added to it.
    Can't wait to see the other vids.
    Another one for the list too!!
  22. stuwyatt Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Well, consider me suitable teased. Way to go SPT!

    This is going to have quite an effect on those who watch.
  23. Triumph Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    first installment

    Scientology and abortion - St. Petersburg Times

    read the rest

    Some excerpts from Dianetics:
    THETANS AND CONCEPTION
    the 'dynamics'

    Church spokesman Tommy Davis said there was no pressure on women to have abortions, and he disputed the women's accounts concerning how dynamics were to be applied.

    Digg it http://digg.com/world_news/Church_of_Scientology_No_kids_allowed_St_Petersburg_Time

    Dig it II http://digg.com/world_news/Scientology_The_truth_rundown_Tampabay_com_St_Petersburg_2
  24. theLastAnon Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    I'm bouncing off the walls right now with rage. Seriously.

    When Laura talks about seeing the ultrasound of the heartbeat before the procedure....I completely lost it.

    FUCK.

    Note: No partisan-faggotry please. I'm pro-choice...emphasis on CHOICE...and I'm sure this would make any pro-choice advocate as angry as any pro-life advocate. Again, remember, this isn't about the politics of abortion; it's about human rights abuses. Please leave partisan nonsense at the door.

    FUCK.

    Thanks Triumph. However, here is the main page link to all stories and videos now up:
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/church-of-scientology-no-kids-allowed/1101759
  25. tippytoe Member

  26. RightOn Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Clearwater Anons please score some copies this weekend!!!
    I guess Flag will be on lockdown again?
  27. Triumph Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Church of Scientology response

    Found: Sat Jun 12 18:03:20 2010 PDT
    Source: St. Petersburg Times (FL)

    [BOT] Church of Scientology response

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    Digg it http://digg.com/world_news/Church_of_Scientology_No_kids_allowed_St_Petersburg_Time

    Dig it II http://digg.com/world_news/Scientology_The_truth_rundown_Tampabay_com_St_Petersburg_2

    Coming tomorrow

    Taking her daughter: Natalie Hagemo sees the irony: Now that the child the church wanted her to abort was 14 and a productive worker, the Sea Org wanted to keep her.
  28. stuwyatt Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    The article made me rage quite a lot... Fucking cult :(
  29. Triumph Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Church of Scientology: No kids allowed - St. Petersburg Times

    Kathryn Reeves
    Supervisor
    Church of Scientology
    Currently holds this position
    Kathryn Reeves - LinkedIn

    ex-wives syndrome AC-360

  30. re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    OP updated with links and is now useful.
  31. Anonymous Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    This one really got to me. It's unbearably sad. It's truly appalling how cruel this organization is. I've watched half, will have to finish tomorrow. Too upsetting.
  32. AquaMan Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    ^^ this

    When I'm not half-zonked from ATL's raid, earlier today (lol 90deg and like 100+% humidity), I'll be going into the rest of the material.
  33. Anonymous Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    These are the most heart wrenching stories I have seen yet! This needs to be spread far and wide. CULT CULT CULT

    My heart goes out to these women. My blood pressure is boiling in regard to the cult.
  34. Zhent Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Wow, did he just admit that??

    Fucking disgusting.


    Much, much rage from this article. Particularly in relation to scn/Tommy responses.


    Choice quote from Gary : "The more they resisted, the more effort was put into trying to break them.''
  35. RightOn Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    "Individuals who join the Sea Org and later determine they want to have child-ren, may then leave the Sea Org. They receive assistance from the Church, including immediate prenatal care, medical care, financial assistance. . . "
    wat?
  36. tippytoe Member

    re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    DUGG!!!
  37. theLastAnon Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th

    Damn, there is a metric-fuckton of information in the stories and reports.

    From the sidebar about the Headley lawsuits, there is this gem:
    The church's motion to dismiss Claire Headley's case said she had her abortions at a young age "because she did not want to lose her status as a Sea Org member.'' The church says the Sea Org policy that requires its members not have children is protected by the First Amendment.


    Watching the video with Sunny Pereira, you will hear her tell the story of going to get an abortion in the back of someone's house in Portugal. Abortion was botched.



    ALSO, who can rip the videos off the website so we can mirror them on YT and elsewhere? None of the programs I've tried will pull the videos. HELP.


    If you have media contacts, now is the time to send them 'poons.
  38. thefatman Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    I think there are ways of doing it with Firefox.
  39. theLastAnon Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th - Forced Abortions in the Sea Org and More

    Tried and failed.
  40. Anonymous Member

    Re: SP Times June 13th and 14th


    If all else fails, you can use CamStudio to screen grab the video. It's free at
    www.camstudio.org.

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