Re: so, some guy PMs me on irc, dumps this on me and begs me to share it... Because I have been critical of you either with my screen name or anonymously in this thread. I would like for you to address the bold part of this post and anything else I might have addressed ITT that you disagree with. I take issue that you say that addressing Hubbard's work is for another day. You are more than welcome to come here and join in our "mission" as we have planned it if you like. But to come in late and start changing the game plan is a little bold if you were to ask me. This is one of the main problems I have with Scientology the way that Hubbard laid out it out. The "Just move in and take over"(HCO policy) method like what is encouraged when targeting W.I.S.E. businesses. Scientology asks for a commitment with out giving you all of the information a person would need to completely honor it. When you say things that imply that we will settle things like, the very essence of Scientology, later it leads many of us to consider this to only be a PA request. Marty will not tell people what parts of Scientology he does and doesn't promote, for example he won't answer if he believes that Christianity is an implant from R-6. I personally believe that is an important question because he quotes so many Islamic and Christian leaders and ideas on his blog and tells anons that Christianity is a "workable technology". However on his blog he also discusses how he studied the true LRH tech on the Freewinds, and neglects to mention that he tried many times to "KSW" Christianity out of people as IG of the RTC at FLAG years later. KSW requires having and using only the "correct technology" etc... This was standard in the CoS under Hubbard and remains that way under DM today. It is these types of omissions that keep many of us in limbo about supporting Marty. I have no issue if Scientologists want to avoid Christianity but the lie of saying it is compatible with it to gain new members is a major issue for many people. Because it is not compatible with any faith that believes you go to Heaven when you die. Lies like these are not only encouraged in Scientology, they are drilled. So when you come to us saying, we can settle the details later, you should not be surprised that you meet resistance. Tommy Davis and other spokesmen have had trouble defining Scientology's beliefs and their goal, can you? Edit: you say you would like to focus on the human rights abuses, but you also promote the 31 points of a man who admits he has taken part in them. Please understand that the difference between the abuse that is built into the tech, and the effects of the abuse, such as staying in bad conditions.