ScnTO's Very Own Last Chance Thread

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ScnTO you are now a true internet celebrity. I am only sorry I can't spend my entire Saturday with you but the sun still shines brighter than you.

Other than the synopsis missing from Dianetics: the modern Science of Mental Health, can you tell me which editions and what the alteration is?

I think that some of the draw comes from the reinforcement of the community. The thread is very active and there is always the possibility that five people will have responded before you have finished typing. The conversation is occurring in real time.

Some of it is definitely the intellectual exercise of honing your argument (something brought up several times before).

Also, ScnTO has had flashes of humanity and I think those do work on us as intermittent reinforcement. Is he reachable? No one really wants to give up. I think people in ScnTO's (supposed) position in Scientology pose an interesting question for us. How do you reach someone who is still at the love-bombing stage, for whom the tech is still working, whose personal experience is so good that they are unwilling to look outside themselves to see that they are complicit in the suffering of others.

Have you ever compared the twelve anti-social traits to David Miscavige's behaviour? If you did, you'd learn something.

Troll. No one believes this.

Thanks for your cogent analysis.

I think the trick here would be to get this person to see how not everyone who criticises scientology is necessarily an anti-social personality. Not easy.

ScnTO, how many scientologists are practicing orthodox scientology at present?

ScnTO, is Paul Haggis an SP?

You can't have a conversation with a computer virus.
Why do you keep trying?

"The effort to be right is the last conscious striving of an individual on the way out. “I-am-right-and-they-are-wrong” is the lowest concept that can be formulated by an unaware person." - L. Ron Hubbard

15...only 15 people have $.

so you are unaware?

What did you "bullshit" us about?

uhhh, everything! it is the only way to handle bullshit artists.

I do it mainly for future readers. I'm long past the point of caring about ScnTO (though I still think Herro is trying to pull one over on us). I just want to make its fail and the fail of $cientology very prominent for guests and new members to the forum.

I'm assuming that 612 didn't answer truthfully when audited, picking answers that would most likely be scored excellent. It shows how invalid the e-meter is at performing any sort of useful function.

You mean parishners of a Catholic church get nothing in exchange for their donations?

That's what a donation means, dumbfuck. You're supposed to do it out of the goodness of your heart, not because you expect a service in exchange.

I don't understand your argument "Knowledge is free"...it costs somebody somewhere money...printing books cost money...schools cost money...maintaining libraries cost money...computer servers cost money.

OT8 is an auditing level...how much does a psychoanalyst charge for psychotherapy cost per hour?...would you tell the psychotherapist advice is free?

Geir Isene, an OT VIII in very good standing in CoS, has has after two
years of private research just announced that he is no longer a member
of the Church of Scientology. Here is his the beginning of his
announcement:
[START QUOTE]
To: relevant parties
Geir Isene's Doubt writeup on the Church of Scientology, 2009-08-07
My name is Geir Isene. I am a Norwegian public Scientologist. I became
a Scientologist in 1984. In 2006 I attested to OT VIII. I have had an
enormous amount of spiritual gain from my 25 years in Scientology. I
have seen similar gains in my family and friends and in countless of
others I have met and helped with the teachings of Scientology. The
gains are there to be had but can be suppressed by malpractice and
suppression of free will. After two years of extensive research, I
have decided to leave the Church of Scientology. I am not leaving
Scientology, only the church. In fact, I consider that the present
management is not practicing it's teachings, and that in order for me
to continue practicing Scientology, I need to leave the church and its
suppressive management. The management of Scientology is creating
massive bad PR for the technology developed by L. Ron Hubbard and
others. By equating the Church of Scientology with the Scientology
Technology, the church is lending it's bad PR to the technology
through its oppressive acts.
I acknowledge and validate the many good staff and public
Scientologists that are working assiduously to help others with
Scientology. I acknowledge that great results are accomplished. It is
hard work indeed. It is made harder by mismanagement.
Contrary to what we are led to believe, the church is not the fastest
growing religion on earth, there are not 8 million Scientologists and
the PR for Scientology is not good. It is in fact among the worst of
all religions {1}. This is not caused by "someone else". It is caused
by the church management. As one knows when studying Scientology and
attaining spiritual freedom, one is causing one's own enemies. It's
time to stop the technology of L. Ron Hubbard from being dragged down
by misapplication and the ensuing bad PR.
I hereby submit my writeup on sorting out my own doubts regarding the
church. I am a Scientologist. I will continue to help people with the
Scientology technology, but I am no longer a member of the Church of
Scientology. The following is a valid WOIM list. For explanation on
markup,see the WOIM definition page {2}. References in Appendix A.
[END QUOTE]
Read the full write-up , with links and references here:
http://xenu.net/archive/personal_story/20090807-Geir_Isene_doubt_COS.pdf
or
http://www.isene.com/files/Geir_Isene_doubt_COS_2009-08-07.pdf

There are no restrictions for Scientologists to go online and inform themselves or have blogs and so on.

so you admit, cult is trying to compete with psycotherapist's for customers that need help. i know you can't see the difference but cult isn't helping...that is why the membership numbers are dropping faster than an air france jet.

My name is Geir Isene. I was born in Oslo, Norway in the year 1966. I have been a Scientologist since 1984 and have had an enormous amount of spiritual gain from my 25 years in Scientology. I have seen similar gains in my family and friends and in countless of others I have met and helped with the teachings of Scientology. The gains are there to be had – but can be suppressed by malpractice and suppression of free will. After two years of extensive research, I have decided to leave the Church of Scientology. I am not leaving Scientology, only the church. In fact, I consider that the present management is not practicing it’s teachings, and that in order for me to continue practicing Scientology, I need to leave the church and its suppressive management. The management of Scientology is creating massive bad PR for the technology developed by L. Ron Hubbard and others. By equating the Church of Scientology with the Scientology Technology, the church is lending it’s bad PR to the technology through its oppressive acts.
I acknowledge and validate the many good staff and public Scientologists that are working assiduously to help others with Scientology. I acknowledge that great results are accomplished. It is hard work indeed. It is made harder by mismanagement.
Contrary to what we are led to believe, the church is not the fastest growing religion on earth, there are not 8 million Scientologists and the PR for Scientology is not good. It is in fact among the worst of all religions. This is not caused by “someone else”. It is caused by the church management. As one knows when studying Scientology and attaining spiritual freedom, one is causing one’s own enemies. It’s time to stop the technology of L. Ron Hubbard from being dragged down by misapplication and the ensuing bad PR. As of 2009-08-07 I am no longer a member of the Church of Scientology.
Read my full write up on why I left the church. And in German.
Visit www.isene.com to see what else I do and to get in contact with me.
BTW: Elysian Chakorta is a fictional character from my Amar role-playing world. Stories about him will surface in due time

Oh, u!

BULLSHIT! That is why cult uses earthlink...sky dayton sanitizes the internet use so brainwashed fucks don't see negative shit and question it...because they will LEAVE!

the only real power you have is to brainwash and make dependent people out of the cult = CULT!

• 
  An Operating Thetan appeals to Scientologists
  
  
  Scientologist Geir Isene, a high-profile Operating Thetan (OT) in Norway, very loudly and publicly left the Scientology Organization in the summer of 2009. He has been blogging his experience, and he declares “the [Scientology] philosophy is great. The church is suppressive with its current management.”
  He recently described the sensitive spots the Scientology Organization has and how the Organization reacts irrationally when these “buttons” are pushed.
  
  
  There are few groups if any that spend so much effort into polishing their PR as the Church of Scientology. It’s meticulously created, varnished, polished, and nurtured. And the PR front is created both for the outside and for the public inside the church. It’s a piece art. And it has to be – to cover up the real scene. The more crazy the real scene, the more effort is put on the PR to cover it up. And PR is heavily used in defending itself. I bet the Dalai Lama doesn’t deem it necessary to spend anywhere near as much thought and action into PR. Because his intentions and results have their own legs to stand on. The Church of Scientology could have opted for the same – to focus on delivering good service to help people become more themselves and exercise their free will, be more happy and have more energy to live an exciting and fulfilling life. Instead the focus has become the glamour.
  And then there is Money. The church is constantly running the errand of Mammon. It used to be fair exchange or better. The church used to deliver service for the money donated. Since 1984 with the formation of the International Association of Scientologists, there has been an ever increasing focus on “pure donation” – taking money for no service. It falls under the category of “Criminal exchange” defined by Hubbard in the policy letter titled “Exchange, Org Income And Staff Pay” (Finance series 36).
  Combine these two buttons and you get the recent Freedom Magazine. Someone scratches the PR of David Miscavige, and public are immediately shaken for money and a new PR piece is sent to a million people to restore the precious facade.
  PR and Money are the Achilles heels of the church. Keeping the light on the true scene will dissolve the PR. Internet is the is the ultimate tool in this regard. Pulling the money flow from underneath the church is like pulling cards out from the bottom of a house of cards. This is why it is important to make the OTs see the real scene going on in the church. They are the primary income.
  I get new OTs every day that are joining the purpose of shedding light on the lies. The purpose is simple: To rid the church of human rights violations.
  Geir is making an appeal to current Scientologists to help him with his goal. You can contact him through his website.

That's a lie.

Yes...send hot dogs so we can have a BBQ for all.

No. We've learned what happens when $cientologists play with fire.

OK. I'll give you that. I'm just getting tired of this particular troll.

Yes.

But... this.

Cruise is going to bring some over from the Weisenthal Center

And you keep spamming that. No one cared the 100th time you spammed it. No one cares now. Why do you keep trying?

ScnTo is not a computer virus. It's a very deluded little person with a very very small world view.

The Enrichment Center reminds you that computer viruses are not alive and therefore...cannot speak. If a computer virus does speak the enrichment center urges you to disregard its advice.

You makes this all-so-easy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology:_A_History_of_Man

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