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Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by romanonandon, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. anonymoose Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    If this is true then this is where efforts need to go. What's good for MB is good for CoS. If YT ban one, they must ban the other.
  2. gailo Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Its a shame there isn't away to find out the links to all their videos. Like say, by looking at the source code of their channel and seeing this bit.
    Code:
    <iframe src="http://gmodules.com/ig/ifr?url=http://hosting.gmodules.com/ig/gadgets/file/107539645233946102713/gadget_scnvid.xml&amp;nocache=1234123&amp;hl=en_GB" width="560" height="465" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" style="margin-bottom:15px;" allowTransparency="true"></iframe>
    Then seeing that is gives you the location of the file that stores all their video IDs.

    Hang on.

    http://hosting.gmodules.com/ig/gadgets/file/107539645233946102713/gadget_scnvid.xml

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-1YKu3-dqc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQrcGy14Js
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPl5N6k-PZA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBOfgbAQ8R8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jgt_vX2c-A
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNOD2Dnyt2k
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI0aclPP7fk
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV97r8AXV0k
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  3. danaBanana Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    I believe that ... yes. It's official. You have won the Internet!

    Congratulations!
  4. anon2487 Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    I don't understand the benefit. Can someone explain the purpose of knowing the addresses of all their videos?

    Surely ignoring is the best thing we can do, whilst locating the original article where the Scilons admitted to having publically outed Ath, Roschash etc. on j00tube (in clear breach of their terms of service.) If we can find it there's a reasonable chance we can have the official Scilon channel removed.
  5. momISanon Member

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    Wow, man! JACKPOT!!!!! Flowers for U : :flowers: :fuckyou:
  6. gailo Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Also of note from that file is the whoever wrote it has left in their testing URIs.

    Scientology Video Channel: Church of Scientology Official Site takes you direct to a mirror of the new scilon site.

    Funnily enough clearviews.org is owned by the Scilons.
  7. User Name Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    I linked that article... in this thread... 1 page ago.

    Here it is because it obviously got lost over the course of one page:

    TOM'S CHURCH COUNTERATTACKS - New York Post

  8. ravenanon Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    ChurchofScientology
    Joined: September 19, 2006
    Last Login: 58 seconds ago
    Videos Watched: 366
    Subscribers: 64
    Channel Views: 8,768

    Update info. That's the last time I will ever look at the channel. I'm not going to push up their numbers. Not many people are watching the videos. I think it's mostly a lot of "o crap they are here" looking going on.
  9. Drums of War Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    So I've been sending Youtube a message already about the fact that another Scientology channel has already been suspended and thus the current one should be given the same treatment if they want to prevent favouring one user over another (the Xenutv1 story)

    More people should do this, link them to the NYpost article if you can. However, since Churchofscientology was set up before Anonymousfacts, does that make a difference? Just wondering.
  10. anonymoose Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    (crossposted- for raveanon and anybody coming fresh to this thread) Forget what's on the new channel.

    A repeat for anyone who hasn't yet read about it.

    The CoS has admitted to making videos which were in breach of YT ToS. They also have another account. This is contrary to YT policy, the same policy which Mark Bunker got kicked off for violating.

    We have a reason for YT to kick CoS off.

    The article in which the CoS admits they made the videos is linked to in User Name's post.

    That is all.
  11. User Name Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    I don't think so. I don't think it should matter if you set up multiple accounts at one time or you set up 1 account, it gets banned and then another one is set up. The precident has been set that if 1 account is banned all additional accounts (regardless of if they violated the ToS) are banned.

    EDIT: Can someone get in touch with Mark Bunker and find out if he has the response from YouTube stating 1 account banned = all accounts banned in writing? It would be good to be able to throw it back in their face. Especially because this time it's costing them money (CoS is paying for that channel)
  12. Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    THIIIIIIIIIS!

    unless they back down on their own statements we should be able to get them shut down. That is unless they're giving their sponsor a special treatment.
  13. Anonymous21 Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Best policy is simply IGNORE it.

    Every time you click their link, load their video etc it gives them views.

    At the moment they are WAY outnumbered with anon vids. Just keep it that way. If the first page of search results for Scientology are OUR videos then that's all we need to be concerned with.

    They have had a couple thousand views. Our first video has had several MILLION. Is it really worth all the effort? It's not like they're getting huge publicity. A good proportion of their views were probably anons too. I think our time could be better spent on things that DO matter and DO change public opinion.
  14. D... Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Actually, I think the best way to deal with this is...

    Mock it. Anonymous Exposed <- Like this site. Also, whoever made the site, RickRoll video no longer exists :<

    The thing, 99% the videos on there nobody gives a shit about. Youtube is for three things

    1. Mocking really stupid videos
    2. Looking at cool shit/stupid shit that gets people in trouble. Or buffalo attacking lions, whatever.
    3. Really bad anime music videos set to songs by Linkin Park.

    They just wasted a whole lot of money as people are most likely going to say "this is bullshit, I'm going to google for porn." CoS, if you are going to target the youtube demographic, at least try to be interesting. Fail.
  15. User Name Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    I do agree with this, but getting the shiny YouTube channel taken down for violating the ToS will be a huge kick in the junk for their morale. It also opens the possibilities for more press if the CoS goes crying to the media about how they were persecuted. Finally it fucks up their ad campaign/press release which will cost them more money to fix. That and in an ideal world they'd end up shooting themselves in the foot by attempting to sue google.
  16. anonhuff Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    I've informed abuse@youtube.com about the ban circumvent, but don't let that stop you from doing so also.
  17. Tsubasa Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    I knew there was an address I forgot to send it to :frustration: Thank you for that.
  18. User Name Member

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    The email I sent:

  19. Delta Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Hmm...this can be shortened.

  20. Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    If anyone can help a YouTube newb design my page to look like theirs (without encroaching on their holy copyrights) please let me know. I'm not proficient in all that interwebs stuff but I'm not a total 'tard. I know others want a more serious reaction page but I want to keep this fight interesting.
  21. anon2487 Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Address phone and fax to inform youtube about the TOS violation:

    YouTube, LLC
    901 Cherry Ave.
    San Bruno, CA 94066
    USA
    Phone: +1 650-253-0000
    Fax: +1 650-253-0001

    Link to the Help Center page with info:
    Abuse and Policy Center

    Copypasta of elements of what I'm sending. Feel free to chop, cut and paste:

    In a March 15, 2008 New York Post article, The Church of Scientology confirmed that they had made and uploaded a number of videos to Youtube in which they publically named Ryan Benno, Jonathan Brown and Sean Carasov, in a manner which was a clear breach of Youtube's terms of service. Youtube staff subsequently removed the videos from the account AnonymousFacts for this reason.

    More recently Youtube removed the account Xenutv1 on the grounds that the account holder, Mr Mark Bunker, had had a previous account - Xenutv - shutdown for breach of the TOS. In accordance with the rules, he should not have opened or been using a second account. Although this decision received a good deal of criticism, I'd like to think that Youtube is even-handed in such matters, and will now remove the account ChurchofScientology, for identical reasons. The Church of Scientology has admitted this account is theirs, just as they admit that the account previously shutdown for breach of the TOS (AnonymousFacts) was theirs too.

    I sincerely hope that this apparent contradiction in policy will be swiftly examined, and action taken to rectify matters.
  22. eksef Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    I just search "scientology" on YT and nothing about the channel came up. This channel is a fucking JOKE.
  23. anon2487 Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    ^^^ Agreed. Our best bet is to ignore IMO.

    However if we can get j00tube to enforce their rules properly, we may well see the Scilons lose their official channel. Sounds like a tasty little win to me. Have posted relevant info in post just above yours.

    C'mon Anon, don't be slackers...:grin:
  24. orly Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Isn't the CoS paying Youtube or something (I don't remember for what, does Youtube has premium channels? Or maybe it's a sponsorship/ad thing.)?

    They're not exactly going to take it down.
  25. BagAnon Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    So has someone come up with a "NO U-TUBE" macro yet?
  26. anon2487 Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    I don't see how anyone can say that so definitively. My inclination is that money does more than just talk, so they probably won't, agreed. But if we just sit around wanking off 10 pages of nothing-much-really there's zero chance.

    Stamp+envelope+quick letter costs next to nothing, and if enough of us do it you might be surprised...

    Hence:
  27. An0nYm0use Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    it was revealing their names. not address.
  28. BagAnon Member

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    Say "revealing personal info." It's got a more sinister ring to it.
  29. holdemm Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    one more article about the channel (from FARK.com: (0)

    Scientology: We Can Use YouTube, Too (GOOG) - Silicon Alley Insider

    got some good comments
  30. livefreeordie Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Don't spend too much time worrying about the Corporation of Scientology Youtube site other than to get AMMUNITION for more of our videos. Never play the enemies game, play your own. It's a fail waiting to happen. I will be looking into the fair use laws so I can have some fun with their propaganda.
  31. DeathHamster Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Do not taunt the Dianetics Monkey!

    ...unless it's funny!
  32. Tsubasa Member

  33. janon12345 Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Cut down a bit but done! I also created a tinyurl for the actual article referred to TOM'S CHURCH COUNTERATTACKS - New York Post
  34. hiddenwho Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Wow, I showed my brother this and do you know what he said =-.-= "sounds cool" you know what I did I shot him with my BB gun. Look at this bull shit lying propaganda! Somehow we need to get this taken off the "youtube community" before more of our own loved ones are sucked into this hateful and completely bullshit cooperation!
  35. shadowchaser Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Ironic that they claim that:
    everyone has the inalienable right to think freely, talk freely and to write their own opinions and to counter the opinions of others. and to support groups of their choosing

    it seems these don't apply to paulette cooper or other critics/SPs.

    or that the laws of god forbid people to destroy people's sanity, or to enslave them.

    tell that to the RPF or the SP hallers. or those that were prevented from receiving real psych help, that ended in either suicides or them killing other people.
  36. capriciouss Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    THIS ^^

    We need Mr. Berry to comment on our thoughts regarding this. It seems to me this is very clear and straight forward. Since it is our intention to critisize and in essence, make parody's of their videos, it sounds like we have all the right to do so under the "fair use" clauses above. Does anyone see ANYTHING in there that would make them think otherwise?
  37. capriciouss Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    One more thing, if anyone goes through the hassle of downloading every single movie, please let me know. I am downloading them one by one slowly but surely. I'll torrent the whole pack if someone hasn't already.
  38. Donovan Cook Member

  39. Kilia Member

    Re: Scilon YouTube channel/PR push

    Obliviously...but where are the videos??
    Hmmmm...maybe they don't know how to upload. lol

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