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Scientology snubs coroner over suicide soldier 'audit file'

Discussion in 'Senator Xenophon And Scientology' started by duanon, Oct 19, 2009.

  1. duanon Member

    Scientology snubs coroner over suicide soldier 'audit file'

    October 19, 2009
    Defence Force 'bullies' cleared over suicide | The Australian







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    UPDATE:

  2. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Lol, yes...their profile on him would make looooots of sense.
  3. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    too bad these files are confidentials!

    wait
  4. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    The article doesn't mention this but that guy had dreams of being an auditor when he was out of the army. So fair to say, he's better off this way.
  5. greebly Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Poor man and his family.

    Keep on top of this inquiry
  6. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    He recently join an organization and all of a sudden his dream is to become an auditor when his done with the army? hmmm
  7. duanon Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Scientology Solider’s Sizzling Suicide | OzSoapbox


    Australian blog that includes comments from Edward McBride's brother




  8. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Actually I believe he was raised in scientology, at least it sounds like his parents are in. He probably grew up under that whole 'auditors are the most important people in the universe' mantra and couldn't think of anything better to do with his life.
  9. duanon Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Quoting his brother from above mentioned blog -


  10. FUCK Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Hmmm. There seems to be a normal pattern here. Join CoS, kill yourself. :C
  11. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Oh, my bad. Feel sorry for the family in that case.
  12. the_cloak Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    It takes special tech to hang yourself with a rope yet manage to die of electrocution.
  13. Anon1720 Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Was thinking the same thing - how exactly does one do this?
  14. Olrik Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Strange things are happening in electric (?) substations...

    Condoleances to the family.
  15. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    ^^ Maybe he took lessons from Kendrick Moxon.

    Anyway seems Scientology has another satisfied customer.

    The inquest should look into if he had made himself broke by Scientology. Reminding of this: Scientology associated deaths - The suicide of Patrice Vic (31)
  16. xoixoi1 Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Oooohhh LOL. Thats a sharp comment.
  17. Anonymous Member

  18. 4Dlulz Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    hmm, does the US have extradition treaties with Australia? if so, then possibly the goverment might be able to enforce the request for the files.
  19. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    So, scientology has something to hide...

    What a surprise.
  20. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Article from: The Australian

    THE Church of Scientology refused to provide records demanded by a coroner investigating the death of a soldier who committed suicide two days after finishing one of the church's intensive courses.

    It emerged yesterday that the American headquarters of the church instructed its Australian branch to send the soldier's "audit file" to the US -- which is outside the coroner's jurisdiction -- before warrants were issued.

    Edward Alexander McBride was found electrocuted and hanged at an Energex substation at Everton Park, in Brisbane, on February 7, 2007. The soldier, who was based at Brisbane's Enoggera Barracks, was on leave from the army at the time and had been doing Scientology courses almost full-time for about a month.

    An inquest into his death found he was considered a "loner" by his fellow soldiers and had been subjected to bullying.

    McBride had paid the church $25,000 for the courses and finished the last one two days before he died.

    In interim inquest findings handed down last week, coroner John Lock said that was when "something unusual happened".

    Mr Lock said requests by police and him for the Church of Scientology to see McBride's audit file were unsuccessful.

    "An 'audit' and 'ethics' files (sic) which may have recorded personal information ... despite formal requests, was not produced to the inquest," he wrote, noting that the actions of the Australian church in moving the file were legal, because it was before the warrants were issued.

    "Mr McBride's attitude changed some time after the afternoon of February 5, 2007, and these files may very well have had some information which could give the inquest some assistance in determining what happened," he said.

    Mr Lock said the Australian church authorities appeared to have been obeying orders issued by the church's US headquarters. "A clear inference can be made that this course of action was taken as a deliberate decision (by the US church) not to produce the auditing file," he said.

    In the days leading up to McBride's death, church members tried to contact him repeatedly on his mobile phone, and sent text and voice messages mentioning an "audit" and "LRH" -- a reference to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

    The coroner said it appeared he had expressed a wish to take a break but until then had enjoyed only positive interactions with the church. "It is clear to me that the degree of forcefulness and amount of contact from church members over those few days is indicative of something more than concerns about completing an administrative process at the completion of his course," Mr Lock said.

    Australian Church of Scientology spokeswoman Vicki Dunstan said the audit file was returned to the "mother church" in the US before the Australian church had received a request from the coroner, but said the file did not shed any light on McBride's state of mind or cause of death.

    The coroner found that McBride's suicide was not "reasonably foreseeable" by his family, the Australian Defence Force or members of the Church of Scientology.
  21. pedrofcuk Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    i hesitate to comment on such a tragic case but as soon as i heard scientology was involved i suspected they would have some part to play

    he spent 25000 dollars and took courses over a two month period prior to his death

    he had expressed a desire to leave,

    he was hounded to return by $cilons

    when you complete a course in $cientology you MUST immediately sign up for your next course all the way to ot8 or class 12 and the pressure to do so could seriously drive a person to suicide

    i will say no more
  22. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Well, you have a "religion" that tells people death is nothing more than "dropping your body" and simply picking up a new one.
    What's to stop a troubled individual from thinking death is an appealing way to just start over in hopes of a better next life?

    For that matter, when death is of so little signifigance to them, what's to stop one from taking someone else's life either?
  23. Olrik Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    VERY important.
  24. Anonymous Member

  25. xoixoi1 Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    This is why.
  26. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    another scifag dies

    AND WE LAUGH


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  27. determu Member

    Church of Scientology defied coroner on suicide

    Church of Scientology defied coroner on suicide | The Australian

    THE Church of Scientology refused to provide records demanded by a coroner investigating the death of a soldier who committed suicide two days after finishing one of the church's intensive courses.

    It emerged yesterday that the American headquarters of the church instructed its Australian branch to send the soldier's "audit file" to the US -- which is outside the coroner's jurisdiction -- before warrants were issued.

    Edward Alexander McBride was found electrocuted and hanged at an Energex substation at Everton Park, in Brisbane, on February 7, 2007. The soldier, who was based at Brisbane's Enoggera Barracks, was on leave from the army at the time and had been doing Scientology courses almost full-time for about a month.

    An inquest into his death found he was considered a "loner" by his fellow soldiers and had been subjected to bullying.

    McBride had paid the church $25,000 for the courses and finished the last one two days before he died.

    In interim inquest findings handed down last week, coroner John Lock said that was when "something unusual happened".

    Mr Lock said requests by police and him for the Church of Scientology to see McBride's audit file were unsuccessful.

    "An 'audit' and 'ethics' files (sic) which may have recorded personal information ... despite formal requests, was not produced to the inquest," he wrote, noting that the actions of the Australian church in moving the file were legal, because it was before the warrants were issued.

    "Mr McBride's attitude changed some time after the afternoon of February 5, 2007, and these files may very well have had some information which could give the inquest some assistance in determining what happened," he said.

    Mr Lock said the Australian church authorities appeared to have been obeying orders issued by the church's US headquarters. "A clear inference can be made that this course of action was taken as a deliberate decision (by the US church) not to produce the auditing file," he said.

    In the days leading up to McBride's death, church members tried to contact him repeatedly on his mobile phone, and sent text and voice messages mentioning an "audit" and "LRH" -- a reference to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

    The coroner said it appeared he had expressed a wish to take a break but until then had enjoyed only positive interactions with the church. "It is clear to me that the degree of forcefulness and amount of contact from church members over those few days is indicative of something more than concerns about completing an administrative process at the completion of his course," Mr Lock said.

    Australian Church of Scientology spokeswoman Vicki Dunstan said the audit file was returned to the "mother church" in the US before the Australian church had received a request from the coroner, but said the file did not shed any light on McBride's state of mind or cause of death.

    The coroner found that McBride's suicide was not "reasonably foreseeable" by his family, the Australian Defence Force or members of the Church of Scientology.
  28. EyeOnSci Member

    Re: Church of Scientology defied coroner on suicide

    Another name to add to the whyaretheydead.info site, sadly.
  29. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Not rly.
  30. LocalSP Member

    Re: Church of Scientology defied coroner on suicide

    Looks like they found another's ruin.
  31. Anonymous Member

    Re: Church of Scientology defied coroner on suicide

    yet another cover-up by scientology. no surprises there. the lying scheming bastards
  32. Anonymous Member

  33. Anonynamefag Member

    Re: Church of Scientology defied coroner on suicide

    Fucking bastards. This is why.
  34. RightOn Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    geez, RIP
    how many deaths will it take?
  35. Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Threads merged.
  36. Anonymous Member

    Re: Church of Scientology defied coroner on suicide

    Indeed :(
  37. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    would you cry or laugh if all the scifags got swine flu and died?
  38. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Depends if they chose individually to be crazy anti-vaxxers or were hounded into it by overwhelming cult pressure.
  39. Anonymous Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    WRONG!

    it would be seveneen shades of awesome wrapped in hysterical!
  40. Belladonna Member

    Re: Australian 'sci' soldier suicide - commission of inquiry

    Australian media seems to be more righteous than US media; I hope to hear the truth come out here. Today Tonight, anyone?

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