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Scientology Religiosity? (Research Packets & Dox)

Discussion in 'Projects' started by AnonLover, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. Anonymous Member

    sorry, but when I typed the name of this "Marginal Religious Movements" I realized it was a Liability
    debbie73.jpg
    The Harper article is full of squirrels and weird stuff!
    If you get it, do not open, but forward to OSA int
  2. AnonLover Member

    ^^WTF u talkin about Willis? R U in right thread?
    EDIT - oh i get it - nebbermind :p
  3. AnonLover Member

    An epic comparative reference for this project was posted from PlainOldThetan in the Indie camp today. Definitely worth a read & worthy of the click love so I wont fully quote it ITT. But I found this extremely insightful, and not because i agree with it, but merely for providing the ability to see/reference all sides of the "r" word fence more clearly.

    THE CHURCH OF EMPTY COLLARS

    From the disclaimer at the end
    From the 48k GOLDEN nugget in the middle
    ^^I need to dig further on this general angle... methinks i missed over turning a stone that requires some of mai attention.

    said stone:

    THE BACKGROUND, MINISTRY, CEREMONIES & SERMONS OF THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY.
    http://www.amazon.com/Background-Ministry-Ceremonies-Scientology-Religion/dp/1573181749

    that i've been wanting my own personal hardcopy of since way bak here:
    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/thre...es-sermons-of-the-scientology-religion.90166/
  4. telomere Member

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  6. AnonLover Member

    evar have one of those leaky eye moments, where some random bs came out of your mouth jokingly, and some random stranger takes it to heart, takes it seriously and does something really amazing?

    I had one early today. and i'm still all wishy washy choked up over it. somebody who i do not know apparently got a hold of the hardback version of this toolkit textbook from Wiley after seeing me prattle on about it somewhere:

    The Religion Toolkit: A Complete Guide to Religious Studies: http://bit.ly/ArjYoq

    and then they went the looooonnnng away around to get ahold of somebody they trusted to get ahold of someone else who knows me, who then pinged me on twitter. and a belated Christmas gift will supposedly be on its way to me next week.

    whoever you are, thank you!!! srsly - thank you and the middle man/woman who will send it on to me when they get it!

    and i dont know if the msg relayed with the offer was your own words or the intermediary but every time i think of it I'm so very touched:

    "because anons do so much for others with no personal cause, i wanted to do this for you anonymously"

    WeLove...--Christian+Graphics.jpg

    (dam leaky eyes again)
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  7. Anonymous Member

    one bad leak deserves another

    (check your pms)
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  8. AnonLover Member

    Pssfffttt... it didnt actually say that. :p

    But its definitely a good read and still relevant despite being dated. Thank you jstorfag, Mwah!

    Now available online for educational purposes only here:

    scribd - http://www.scribd.com/doc/77508627/...aces-of-3-Marginal-Religious-Movements-Harper

    fileshare - http://www.mediafire.com/?qfr523uyg84jjq9
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  9. AnonLover Member

    While digging around the Christian Research Network for comparative resource cites, I happened upon a fascinating read from a lady by the name of Dwayna Litz of a ministry called Lighting the Way Worldwide that I had never seen before.

    Christfag trolling the cult in grand form when she got a full tour of ASHO back in 2004.

    First the article teaser on CRN (dont let the preaching turn you away, its only that heavy in the teaser):
    http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=8666

    Then the article itself:
    http://ltwinternational.org/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=48

    Can't help but wonder if "Vinnie" ever woke up.
  10. DeathHamster Member

    Bullshit.

    darkchapel.jpg
  11. AnonLover Member

    The scanned pages with Scientology mentions are taken from the 1991 (current/last/Fourth Ed.) version of the book, and it was apparently added as new material in the 3rd edition but expanded in the 4th.

    And the title page thumbnail their showing on google for the 1st edition, when blown up says Fourth Edition (which google also has for sale as an e-book) altho the product details list it as 3rd edition.

    So they got it all screwed up :/

    And I dont see anyway to tell 'em that nor upload revised pages?
  12. Anonymous Member

    Do you know the date of the 3rd edition?
  13. AnonLover Member

    No, but i plan to revisit later... it seems to me there was only 3 editions, the fact they called the last version the 4th has me stumped and I need to search worldcat or something similar that's more comprehensive in regards to international pubs history.
  14. AnonLover Member

    I'm on the lookout for pics of creepy scilon ministers in full on clergy regalia, preferably with the big bling cross shining proud and a descriptive caption stating who/where it is. Like this one:

    [IMG]
    John H. Boshoff, Scientology minister in attendance at a joint event
    with his church and the Nation of Islam.

    Anybody got anymore?
  15. thewayup Member

    Worldcat mentions 1981 for the 3rd Edition. 1979 for the 2nd.
  16. AnonLover Member

    Ahhh, that explains a part of whats partially off in googlebooks then, the '81 didnt show up elsewhere.

    Since the '66 and the '91 are showing different scientology excerpts on googlebooks, methinks the '66 has chapter level content from the 3rd edition '81 version, combined with the index and title page from the '91.

    IOW it's farked.
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  18. AnonLover Member

    I'm not so much interested in that ATM, since the '91 expanded the original scientology chapter. Unless i stumple up something significant that changed with cult practices/policies from like 1981-1983 era of the time track.

    OR, track down something indicating this particular book/author got lashback from the initial inclusion of Scientology in the 3rd edition... that would paint an interesting light on the differences between the 3rd & 4th editions.
  19. telomere Member

    Creepy, but maybe not what you were looking for...

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    Katie Holmes signs autographs for fans in New York last night
  20. AnonLover Member

    ^^LOL. Oy not quite.

    There is lots to be had from the mags, however i havent looked thru recent/current ones for active scilon rev shots.

    and i was hoping to mix a couple real photos with magazine or newspaper snippet images. a shot of John Carmichael in collar & cross would make me cum. (or similarly known local/regional org spokeshole)
  21. telomere Member

    EX Scientology minister
    Well, Ex-Scn but still on the books as a practicing cleric...

    Sorry. Nattery.
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  22. telomere Member

    Could have sworn that I've seen one somewhere, but I may have mocked it up.

    This guy is from LA. Not sure if he has a name.
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...l-ron-hubbards-philosophy-of-dianetics.52948/

    [IMG]

    DURN. The video seems to be gone now.
    Maybe someone has a mirror?

    haz


    Sorry. Will try for more creepy.
    Nerve assist demo is not creepy at all!
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  23. AnonLover Member

    ^^That works. smaller size from a vidcap suits my needs just fine. Thx!
  24. telomere Member

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  25. AnonLover Member

    Sum freshly spun dox from recent stufferz done since the holidays on this project!

    From wayback on pg2 ITT, this haz finally been properly harvested into my project dox for upcoming publications...
    ^^Juicy goodness cultivated into the now finished quotation segments for use in Vols 4 & 6. Available as standalone googledocs on links below, plus the sauce above helped me expand my lecture excerpt selections in Vols 3&4 that I hope to publish soonly (just waiting on a couple of latecomer mags to get leaked to make Vol3 less gay)

    Vol4 :: L. Ron Hubbard & Church of Scientology General Quotes on Other Major Religions and Systems of Belief
    https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9hwLoP07dRxZDY2OTI5NWItMzI4OS00ZWYxLWJmMzctMGE1M2U3YmE3YzE2

    Vol6 :: L. Ron Hubbard & Church of Scientology Quotes on Buddha & Eastern Belief Systems
    https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9hwLoP07dRxMDBlNTUyYjEtMWYwNi00ZjM4LWJmZDEtN2FkNmFhMTk4ZjE1

    Also, my latest greatest project planning & materials index as of tonight with the most recent changelog notes...

    Scientology Religiosity? Materials Index
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/57784121/Scientology-Religiosity-Materials-Index
    Moar coming soonly. For the whole she-bang collection of religiosity project dox, see here:
    http://www.scribd.com/collections/3084764/Scientology-Religiosity
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  27. AnonLover Member

    Unfortunately that one doesnt make for a good screen grab sauce.

    Bump for more scilon reverend pics - surely there's at least a few more easily gotten ones floating around? Also - John Carmichael... I can't find one of him in his collar worthy of using, and I practically got my knickers in a knot ovar search fail frustration :/
  28. NO Shoops Allowed, I take it? ;)
  29. AnonLover Member

    Usually yes, LOL... but NO in this case, not this time.

    I'm looking for real pics & preferably of recognizable faces that I can put meaningful captions on.
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  30. telomere Member

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  31. AnonLover Member

    ^^One of my favs that i havent seen in awhile. But it's in this project somewheres.
  32. telomere Member

    Poor quality, will see if I can find better:
    L.A. Weekly
    April 4-10, 1986 Vol. 8 No. 19

    [IMG]
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  36. telomere Member

    diminishing returns....
    but more John Boshoff
    (event @ Flag or Ybor. clearwater might know more)

    collar/cross/something weird on his shoulder
    stills at 01:20. I can't find the original.

  37. Anonymous Member

    So, um, why are there no photos of GOD INCARNATE RON wearing his fucking 8 point cross?

    Curious damn atheists are curious.

    Because they are curious.

    .

    No bronze statues of Ron with Xed out cross?

    No photos of Ron wearing religious collar?

    WHY THE FUCK NOT?

    / rhetorical questions

    / obvious anon is obvious
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  38. Anonymous Member

    JESUS FUCKING CHRIST HOPPING UP AND DOWN WITH A POGO STICK UP HIS ASS AND NEEDING A GANG BANG SEC CHECK.

    WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE NO FUCKING PHOTOS OF L. RON HUBBARD WEARING HIS FUCKING 8-POINT CROSS AND CATHOLIC PRIEST COLLAR?

    CLASSIFIED?

    OT LEVEL SECRET?

    >>>> RON SECRETLY PISSED ON ALL MAJOR RELIGIONS AS NOTHING BUT SPACE ALIEN IMPLANTS, PAIN AND SEX? <<<<

    ^ bing bing bing bing we have a winner
  39. DeathHamster Member

    The print edition of this might have one. (Can't promise, but it was when they were in 911 max milking mode.)
    Edit: Nah, he was even more disgusting as a pretend worker/medic:
    johncarmichael.jpg
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