scientology in UK - info dump

Discussion in 'Think Tank' started by joannaatemyhamster, Feb 7, 2013.

  1. Please use this thread to collate info relating to: Locations, Leaders, Ideal Org Scam, Narconon/the truth about drugs, CCHR, Celebrity Centre, Companies, Newspaper articles & Books, Saint Hill Manor and the IAS
    Anything useful to create a full pic of the current state of scientology in the uk which might be important to journalists, the rebels, the curious, the inquisitive, in fact anyone who can think for themselves

    London Headquaters Address: 146 Queen Victoria St, London EC4V 4BY
    Saint Hill Manor Address: St Hill Rd, East Grinstead, West Sussex RH19 4JY 01342 334171
    Birmingham Address:8 Ethel Street, Birmingham B2 4BG 0121 643 8894
    Thursday hours 09:00–22:00
    Manchester Address: 258 Deansgate, Manchester M3 4BG 0161 834 6463
    Scotland Hubbard Academy of Personal Independence 20 South Bridge, Edinburgh EH1 1LL
    0131 556 5075 ‎ ·
    Plymouth Address: 41 Ebrington St, Plymouth, Devon PL4 9AA 01752 202165
    Brighton Address: Third Floor, 79-83 North St, Brighton BN1 1ZA Phone:01273 326000
    Thursday hours 09:00–22:00
    Sunderland Address: 51 Fawcett St, Sunderland, England SR1 1RS Phone:0191 510 9600
    Church of Scientology42 High Street, Poole, Dorset BH15 1BTT : 01202 257788

    Total number of scientologists in the UK according to the 2011 census 2,418, (which is a small growth from 1,781 in 2001)
    Note that the number of actual scientologists in the UK is very small compared to the amount of real estate owned, money spent on advertising, or proof that they actually do anything useful for society
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  2. afternon Member

    Main recruitment for London is "Life Improvement Centre"
    68 Tottenham Court road London W1T 2EZ
    020 7636 9874

    (close to Goodge Street station. This is where they have "personality tests" and "stress tests" and recruit fresh meat.)
  3. Anonymous Member

    The Jive Aces Mod edit: sci link >> ( link to Jive Aces- scilon band)
    Are members of the sea org who have special dispensation to work as PR for the cult- they have been known to try to recruit after playing gigs and are a popular mainstream retro band.

    They work hard raising the profile of Scientology and especially the anti-drug front groups for Scientology.
  4. In addition to the new london org opened in 2006 at a cost of reportedly 23 million pounds scientology currently owns three historic buildings worth over £10 million sitting empty in the UK,

    Ideal org scam
    Buzzfeed Takes a Close Look at Scientology's “Ideal Org” Financing ...
    Jan 15, 2013 – She has done many Tomkat stories and makes fun of scamatology quite ..... The Church of Scientology Ideal Org scam is nothing more than a ...



  5. ZeroC Member

    "L Ron Hubbard's Fitzroy House" (building has been used for scilon meetings before)
    37 Fitzroy St London, Greater London W1T 6DX
    020 7255 2422

    "Celebrity Centre" (yet to employ any real celebrities + temp address)
    91 New Cavendish Street
    London, W1W 6XE
    020 7580 2725
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  6. narconon uk closes down | Why We Protest | Activism Forum › ... › Situation RoomsNarcononCached
    40 posts - 12 authors - 30 Jul 2012
    narconon in the u.k has closed down and has sent all its patients to narconon holland , they are trying to open a new centre still in the hastings ...
    UK - cult's latest publication to say Narconon is not ...‎ - 10 posts - 24 Jan 2013
    Narconon UK claims sponsorship from John Lewis, M&S ...‎ - 40 posts - 9 Aug 2012
    Narconon UK‎ - 100+ posts - 29 Jul 2012
    Narconon UK: project to remove charitable status‎ - 100+ posts - 20 Apr 2012

    Narconon also comes under other guises, The Truth About Drugs, Foundation for a Drug Free World, Drug-Free UK. While getting information about drugs to children is good, scientology believes that all drugs are bad, but especially anti-depressants. This may be dangerous for people on life saving medication ie epilepsy, asthma, diabetes, heart conditions. As well as being a PR exercise for scientology narconon is using this to recruit people into narconon/scientology through the back door.

    Narconon had one drug rehab facility in the uk which is currently closed. Rumours are of another one being opened up. See info about narconon closures in the usa/canada. This drug rehab programme is regarded as dangerous and unethical
  7. Anonymous Member

    Scientology Lawyer for the uk Peter Hodkin 42 Copthorne Road
    Felbridge East Grinstead West Sussex RH19 2NS
    Peter Hodkin, senior partner at Hodkin & Co, the Church of Scientology's lawyers, based in East Grinstead, Sussex, says: "The distribution was about 40 copies - not very much. I am happy with this decision."
  8. Anonymous Member

    Here's a dump of the latest from Narconon UK:


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  10. Birmingham £4.2m new building
    The Church of Scientology is to build a new £6m headquarters in Birmingham as a base to recruit followers from across the West Midlands.
    Scientologists to build new £6m headquarters in Birmingham ... News

    The Fall of Birmingham Org |

    www.scientology-cult.comT PaineCached
    Jul 19, 2011 – A Common Story by T. Paine The fall of Scientology orgs has exact causes and the current plight of Birmingham in the UK is all too typical.
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  11. Anonymous Member

    anyone got a source/link for the Narconon flyer/newsletter?
  12. Anonymous Member

    I mean the one above posted yesterday - thanks
  13. Anonymous Member

    I set up a dummy, throw-away e-mail address on the web and received that shit via e-mail.

    Can't remember the URL for the site, but it was recently posted at WWP, perhaps into this thread.

    I'll watch for it and post it for you when I find it. Based on the JPEGs posted above, the site is:

    www dot narcononuk dot org
  14. Anonymous Member

    nice work - thanks
  15. Anonymous Member

    Camelot Castle Hotel Tintagel Cornwall

    Camelot Castle Hotel Tintagel and Scientologists John & Irina ... › ... › Online ActivismScientology DiscussionCached
    100+ posts - 12 authors - 27 Jul 2010
    Camelot Castle Hotel Tintagel and Scientologists John & Irina Mappin and Ted Stourton Camelot Castle Hotel. Warning! 140 'terrible' 1* ...
    Working At Camelot Castle Hotel | Why We Protest ...‎ - 22 posts - 18 Apr 2011
    John Mappin and the Camelot Castle Hotel, Tintagel ...‎ - 40 posts - 20 Sep 2009
    Beware. This hotel is pumping Scientology to children.”

    Reviewed 31 January 2013
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  16. Anonymous Member

    ^^ Missed part off above!
    “Beware. This hotel is pumping Scientology to children.”
    Reviewed 31 January 2013


    people found this review helpful

    Having had a family party at this hotel which was of an average standard, the only true positive being its location, we were extremely disappointed as parents when one of our children completed a "dreams and wishes" letter to Merlin. She (aged 8 years) has subsequently been sent now 2 DVD's promoting Scientology. I am not sure of the ethics of advertising to minors - however this seems totally unacceptable to me. I can only advise anyone not to leave any details with this hotel. We wish as parents that we had followed out own intuition and stopped our daughter innocently filling in a letter to Merlin.
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  17. kthnxbai Member

    United Kingdom - 2009: 20 centres, 11 Orgs and similar, 9 Missions. Orgs: London Celebrity Centre W2 3AN; London Ideal Org EC4V 4BY; London Bookshop; AOSH East Grinstead RH19 4JY; Saint Hill Foundation RH19 4JY; Birmingham B2 4BG; Brighton (CoS Religious Education College) BN1 1ZA; Edinburgh (Hubbard Academy of Personal Independence) EH1 1LL; Manchester M3 4BG; Plymouth PL4 9AA; Sunderland SR1 1RS. In 2009 there were also 10 Missions: Belfast (Dianetics Foundation) BT2 7AH; Bournemouth BH15 1BT; Chichester; Eastbourne BN21 2EP; Hastings; Hove BN3 2FP; Poole; Southampton S010 6FT; Tunbridge Wells; York YO10 3JW. Also Narconon at Hastings TN38 0LN, Greenfields School, Camelot Castle Hotel.
    AMENDED 2013. 10-12 centres. Brighton Org has gone (building for let), Sunderland Org is dead or dying. 8 Missions have closed or are moribund: Bournemouth, Chichester, Hastings, Hove, Poole, Southampton, Tunbridge Wells and York. Belfast (open August 2011) and Eastbourne may survive. NN Hastings was open summer 2012 but may now be closed. Enrolment at Greenfields School is down. The hotel is a sad joke.
    There are 5 empty and neglected Ideal Org buildings: Birmingham (parts of plot sold off), Brighton, Gateshead (fire-damaged building for sale again), Manchester (planning application failed), Plymouth (empty building, deteriorating).
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  18. SeenTheLight Member

    There's 8 Orgs, and 2 missions left in the UK, Southampton and Bournemouth (3 including Dublin, which CoS does) of the former 15. Sunderland Org struggles to open one day a week.
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  19. Anonymous Member

    Let's clear the UK- of all orgs!
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  22. fishypants Moderator

    If anyone's registered with TripAdvisor, could they suggest to this user that they report this to the ASA?

    It's certainly not within the rules.
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  23. Anonymous Member

    Anybody know who the currents top execs are at Saint Hill? Namely, the RTC Reps, CO CMO UK, CO CLO UK, LRH PPRO UK, Captain AOSHUK and such ilk?
  24. And there are
    London : Dianetics and Scientology Life Improvement Centre 68 Totenham Court Rd W1T 2BB
    Celebrity Centre : 91 New Cavendish Street London, W1W 6XE 020 7580 2725
    Fitzroy House (some kind of Hubbard Museum) : 37 Fitzroy St London, Greater London W1T 6DX 020 7255 2422
    Wealden House Life Improvement Centre : Lewis Road East Grinstead RR19 3JB 01342 335335
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  25. Malory Member

    Possibly Belfast. I need to get round there and see what's up. Last bit of info I got was that one of the guys in charge had dropped dead suddenly around the end of the summer. The place was on it's last legs with their web site gone and not even opening the couple of hours a night advertised on the door.
  26. Anonymous Member

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  27. Would be useful to know who is running scn in the UK, all the recruitment centres (i mean orgs). The purpose of an info dump is that when I direct people to WWP they have got a little lost sometimes, some have never returned, and may still be browsing all the threads.

    I just needed basic info and pointers as to where to go for further details. Also an uptodate of what/who/where. The more I look the more it reminds me of The Wizzard of Oz, when the curtain is finally removed it will just be a little man behind it (or rather an ancient video recorder playing tapes of David Misgavige)

    Would be great if you could try and collate this kind of information (maybe start another thread) and then post the links here. Thank you ;)
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  28. Anonymous Member

    ok from the video i posted earlier list of names from the saint hill fundraiser in thanks to all who donated
    Org's mentioned are London, Manchester & Birmingham

    1) Lahart carpentry (london)
    2)the Lycett family
    3)the Calcioli family
    4) the Bromley family
    5)Paul Davey
    6)the Birmingham org staff (it says in alphabetical order i'm not sure if the list that comes after are all birmingham org or not)
    7)Ian Allen
    8)Greg Barret
    9)Adrian & maria Bennett
    10)Tony berry
    11)mike & jane Billings
    12)John Bradley
    13) Michelle Brown
    14)sue Cardiff
    15) Kristina Cerneicutite
    16)Andrew & sue Chalmers
    17) Mick & Julie Champness
    18)Steve Clark
    19)Cat Clark
    20)Samira Daneshvar
    21)Ricardo Dasliva
    22)sophia Elias
    23)Derick Fields
    24)Trinity Fitzgibon (little kid in video)
    25) Neil & Pavane Fraser
    26) Shelly & Gunilla Gerber
    27) Goef Greaves
    28) Robin Hadley
    29)Phill harrison
    30) Nigel Heaton
    31) John Herring
    32) Peter & Terri Hodkin
    33) Eric Holden
    34)Tony & sue Hollom
    35)Robert Jenkins
    36) Robbie Kinsey
    37) Virgina Matos
    38) Eva Mazer
    39) steven Par
    40) julia Price
    41) Hellen Ramm
    42) Assaff & Rayanee Ranwar
    43) John & thea Rich
    44) tim & caroline Richardson
    45) Anthony Rodda
    46) Margaret Schgagular ( i read that as shaguregular)
    47)Heather Stokes
    48) George Tilly
    49)Phill Turner
    50) brian Williams
    51) norman Wilson
    52)john Wood
    53) Carl Zummatore

    there is a link somewhere around that tells you what their compleations in the cult are i lost the link due to kids thinking they know more than they do about computers
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  30. Anonymous Member

    Pictures of UK scientology cult members with Police, in schools - 2012:

    Scilon link: http://www!blteam!hu/drugfreeukcouk/marathon.html

    from this cult pr piece:
    Scilon link!blteam!hu/drugfreeukcouk/ marathon for a drug free uk&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
    pictures of scientologists at Shirley High School Croydon
    and also here 2012 (scientology press release):
    Scilon link!prweb!com/releases/Church-Of-Scientology/Drug-Free-Education-Event/prweb9475017.htm marathon for a drug free uk&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
    The First Annual Multi-Marathon for a Drug-Free United Kingdom
    Church of Scientology organizes week-long run through southern England to promote drug education and prevention.

    The Mayor of Westminster welcomed the runners back to London at the end of their 7-day, 130- mile multi-marathonthrough southern England to promote drug-free living.
    Los Angeles, CA (PRWEB) May 04, 2012
    A team of runners carried out a weeklong 130-mile (209 km) multi-marathon through southern England to promote drug education and prevention as a primary solution to drug abuse.
    The UK Drug-Free Multi-Marathon began April 14 on the steps of Lambeth Town Hall in the south of London. Over the next seven days they ran to East Grinstead in Sussex and on to Uckfield, Brighton, Crawley, Reigate and Croydon, ending back in Westminster in the heart of London.
    The athletes met local mayors, police officials and educators, introducing them to The Truth About Drugsdrug education and prevention materials: booklets, public service announcements and a hard-hitting documentary that provide factual information on drugs. They also provided drug education lectures in schools along the way and encouraged students attending to take the Drug-Free Ambassador Oath—a pledge to live drug-free and to help their friends and family do the same.
    The runners were enthusiastic about the response they received, commenting that throughout the route, people honked, waved, and gave them a thumbs-up.
    The team was comprised of two athletes from London and six Hungarian runners who have carried out annual cross-country anti-drug marathons in Hungary for the past 10 years. To covere 130 miles in a week, runners clocked an average of 18 1/2 miles each day. The event was organized and sponsored by the Church of Scientology of London.
    To learn more about the drug prevention initiative sponsored by the Church of Scientology or to participate in the program, visit the Scientology website.
    About The Church Of Scientology And The Truth About Drugs Education and Prevention Materials
    The Church of Scientology sponsors one of the world’s largest nongovernmental drug education and prevention campaigns. When young people are provided with the truth about drugs—factual information on what drugs are and what they do—usage rates drop commensurately.
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  31. Anonymous Member

    The cult tries to get respectability as a 'religion'.
    They have worked at being involved with 'inter-faith' groups in the UK (especially at Westminster)

    This cult pr piece with photographs by scientologist Sam Butler:
    Tracey Coleman and Graeme Wilson - Scientology PR UK at the House of Lords interfaith 'religious tolerance' 2012:
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  32. For lots of information re UK scientologists is very helpful

    Current info AFAIK
    Plymouth ED (executive director) Vicky Boyce, with her husband Greg Tin as Basics Course Supervisor
    Manchester ED Tracey Fitzgibbon, Sam Butler OSA based in Manchester too?
    Hapi Scotland John Gourlay ED, Dave Fraser OT committee chairman, Colin McNeil Ideal org fundraiser
    St Hill Manor Michael Richardson Events Manager
    Graeme Wilson Public Affairs Director at Church of Scientology, also involved in narconon, cchr
    London Org Ann Rust D'Eye Field Control Secretary, Mark Pinchin Director of Special Affairs OSA

    More info here:

    London Org- Current scene [Archive] - Page 2 - Ex Scientologist ...
    100+ posts - 33 authors - 2 May 2009 ^ names ..... A lot of

    London Org - "Meet a Staff Member" | Why We Protest | Activism Forum
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    Celebrity Centre London : 91 Cavendish St London W1W 6XE
    Executive Director : Peter Bolger
    "The below FSMs are commended for their work on selling books to new people
    • Fraser Kee Scott
    • Tom Nyerges
    • Monika Szindekovics
    • Andrew Sinclair-Gunn
    • Sofia Slavova"
    • Connected to CC : Mike Ricketts (weight-loss), Felix Coley (Writer), Derek T Booth (Musician), Woody Woodmansey (Musician), Rebecca Pierson Grant (Actress), Hossam Ramsey, Dave Press (Musician), End of The Road Festival, Andrew Skirrow OT Comittee Chairman London CC (Musician), Nadia Elias, Katherine Kubillius (Singer)
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  36. Anonymous Member

    Bournmouth & Poole (Mission) Address: 42 High St, Poole BH15 1BT Phone:01202 257788
    Debbie Corney ED, Mel Batson

    Southampton : 6 Brookfield Road, Southampton SL17 1LQ,
    "Scientology Southampton is the sister Mission of the Bournemouth and Poole Dianetics Mission.
    We are located in the building of The Dental Group, and are open on Tuesday evenings."
    We offer a wide range of services including courses covering many aspects of everyday life, and several types of counselling including marriage counselling and Dianetics and Scientology auditing which addresses the everyday challenges of life at a more personal and spiritual level.
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  37. Anonymous Member

    A few small corrections to above posts Its Carl ZIMMATORE in the list of Brum donars, CATHERINE Kubillius in the London Celeb Centre List.

    Add to the celeb centre connections Heidi Vogel, The Jive Aces (but they run as their own unit out of Saint Hill)
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  38. Anonymous Member

    Catherine Kubillus*
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  39. Anonymous Member

    The last known LRH PPRO UK was Bob Keenan's former junior, Marianne Rowell. She took over from Keenan when he started working in USA (he subsequently left the SO on an alleged medical leave). Anybody know if Rowell is still on that post? John Danilovich was the last known Captain AOSHUK. Confirmation anyone? It would be very interesting to know who the rest of these execs are. Of these, it is the RTC Reps who are at the top of the food chain and set the "tone" on the UK Base since they work directly for Miscavige himself.
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