Scientology in Pakistan

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Here are some important WWP thread from June 2009:

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-...-research-academy-approves-scientology-46952/

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/complaint-about-scientology-united-arab-emirates-57859/

Consistency is the Way Out

This is also good:

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-m...ogy-united-arab-emirates-57859/3/#post1091657

That's the Pakistani flag flying next to the mosque:

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Just thought of a solution. Poons to the Pakistan embassy and/or mission in your country. That way, your English letters will be translated and forwarded to the President of Pakistan. Make sure you include as many Dox from El Ron as you can.

Islam's highest legal authority in Pakistan is the Council of Islamic Ideology.

http://www.cii.gov.pk/

I'm sure they'd love to know about what L Ron thinks about Muhammed.

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This is why I take the threat of Sci in 3rd world countries seriously. The tiny elites have the kind of money Miscavige likes, the impoverished majority has the bodies the SeaOrg needs. And a tiny elite in a country the size of India is a lot of folks.

I am especially concerned about India. It's hard to describe how much wealthier Indians value the validation of Westerners. They remind me of white South Africans during the apartheid era, desperate to prove they're just as enlightened as Europeans and thus worthy of Western attention. This desperation for acceptance gives Scn an edge with the more educated class.

And the cult of celebrity, OHMIGOD. When Julia Roberts was in Delhi --the fucking capital, fer Chrissakes-- last summer filming some stupid movie about some stupid American woman who goes on some stupid Indian pilgrimage, her visit was front page news every day the whole time she was there -- over a week.

As bad as the US is, I can't imagine Roberts getting that kind of coverage anywhere except maybe a tiny town.

Bollywood stars are even more central to Indian culture than Hollywood is in the US.

And the desperate, hopeless poverty......Appalachia and East LA are Beverly Hills, maybe even Valhalla, compared to most of India.

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what are you waiting for to spread it?

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I don't see any cause for alarm here. Why make this out to be something more than it is? There are no docs showing any genuine government involvement.

The first reference states a total of 30 bank people attended an in-house presentation on Dianetics in a bank field office (p. 79) conducted by a local bank officer. This was done under the following training program:

"9.6 In-house Training Programs
In order to provide cost effective training, the Training & Development Department has
adopted a strategy of developing/ promoting employees with trainers’ skills and attitudes
from within the BSC to impart training to other officers in various disciplines especially in
the area of Information Technology, Performance Management Systems (PMS),
Organizational Development (OD), Soft skills, Communication and Personality
Development etc. Such programs were generally organized using training facilities available
at Learning Resource Center (LRC), NIBAF or field offices.There was probably a space available and the presentation was most likely provided free of charge. It does not seem to have much, if anything, to do with the rest of the bank's programs, so was probably voluntary. It didn't get much of a response, either - 30 is a small number compared to others. False alarm.

The second link is just an individual in Pakistan with a website who practices a bunch of different culty stuff, not just Scn culty stuff.

Thousands of years of practicing, fighting and dying for the Islam religion is not about to be undone by Scientology.

All industrialised nations have become stricter on immigration laws, and I am sure this has already had an effect on Scn human trafficing - it will become far more strict before the end of the year.

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[MOD]Disregard, I suck cocks[/MOD]

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I'm not waiting. Its just that I don't have links to anyone in Pakistan.

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Welcome to the Official Website of Council of Islamic Ideology

That's the Council for Islamic Ideology in Pakistan. It's Pakistan's highest religious authority. These are the folks who rule whether laws passed by the government are Unislamic or not. Poon away!

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I know poor countries have a wealthy elite but it is not the wealthy elite who make up the bulk of Scientology's membership in other countries but a wealthy but insecure bunch of people without much higher education. If they had more power they would not go for Scientology; if they had less they would not be able to afford it.

Yes, I see more and more foreign-looking names in the completion lists but I don't believe this will produce a vast income. Very few people in the third world, or even in Europe, have hundreds of thousands of dollars of disposable income. We really don't. The French case was about several thousand euros, 25,000 I think, which is a lot for a French person to find in ready cash. I am always astonished to learn how much cash individual Americans can afford to give the cult. Poor countries are poor.

Yes, I am concerned, but not unduly. What has the cult achieved in India in ten years? does anyone know?

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Part of it is the Big Somewhere Else stories that can be told to members and staff in Scientology's other areas.

No one gets to compare notes and figure out that there are no places where Scientology is actually booming.

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It was a joke... too bad, you're so fucked in the brain, you can't recognize it.

I'm so over the abusive mod shit on this board. I'm through.

I suspect WWP will be obsolete within the year... anons are turning away from WWP in droves...

Smurf.. over & out.

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Any suggestions of a better hole?

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The "GOODBYE I HATE YOU ALL" post generator

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I came up with this from GOODBYE I HATE YOU ALL:

Goodbye everyone, it's become clear that I can't post anything in this stupid forum without being the subject of ridicule and persecution without anyone even bothering to stop and wonder if they're being worse than the fluffies they pretend to despise. I THOUGHT THIS COMMUNITY WAS FULL OF LOVE BUT I SEE THEY ARE FULL OF HATERS AND PEOPLE WHO JUST COMMENT, JUST TO INSULT A FELLOW MEMBER. If I were a hacker, I swear to Goddess you people and your stupid forum would be down tonight and never come back. I am soooo outta here. I left highschool a long time ago i don't need to be back there.

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Back on topic perhaps...
Tinfoil speculation definitely...
But I have to put this out there...

Where I live, over the past year or so, I have noticed an influx of Indian and/or Pakistani individuals (almost 100% male, and roughly college-age) out and about. At first I just assumed it was university students, because there is also a good number of unis/colleges in the area. But there is also the unopened idle org.

I have lived here for over 12 years. This recent influx was noticeable.

A couple weeks ago while I was reading a protest wrap-up, it was mentioned that an Indian/Pakistani man grabbed an Anon's camera from him and wouldn't give it back until Anon agreed to delete the video. I haven't been able to relocate that thread, but there was a photo of the man in question. I have NO idea if the man is an immigrant or is US-born or anything like that.

But that's when my tinfoil started to melt.

I'll try to find the photo/thread and post it, unless others know wtf I'm referring to and know where it is.

How does the cos get foreigners over here? Religious worker visas?

Also, fwiw, if I were forced to eat only one cuisine for the rest of my life, I could die happy eating nothing but Indian food, which is what I'm eating right now.

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Ah yes, here it is, the individual is in the second video:

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Yes. Scientology boasting:

Code:

http://knol.google.com/k/religious-recognition-of-the-church-of-scientology-in-europe

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I watched the video; confirm several little brown faces. Not college students by any means; large adults. I find this very odd. But Scientology's publicity for a year or so has been multiracial, or at least an Asian or African face appears now and again.

Do you imagine Hindus and Muslims believe what Scientology is promising them in terms of superpowers? If so, there may be problems ahead.

Do you imagine Asians can run Orgs and successfully recruit the kind of WASPS who provide the alleged church with its billions? Can anyone envisage Brown Scientology in the US?

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Scientology is NOT a wacky American religion....it is NOT a religion at all!

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The only Scientology is Green Scientology. And I ain't talking about the environment.

So I totally can imagine this. Very easily.

I don't think they picture it quite the way you put it, though. I live in a city with a very large, affluent, educated South Asian population. Scn has been making very obvious efforts to recruit these immigrants for the last 2 years that I've observed.

These guys (and they're almost all guys) are perfect targets. Wealthy, successful, interested in self-improvement in general and so they can fit into US society better, lonely, and vulnerable.

They go home at night to no one or random roommates, after being brought up in cultures that value family ties and togetherness. Nothing here is anything like the countries they were brought up in. Then they meet people who promise answers and a group of like-minded friends. Perfect.

As for Asians running US orgs, I just can't see how that would discourage members of other races. Who cares about race? Besides, they could just play the "Sci transcends race, religion, and everything else" card. And Asians could recruit members from their own religious community. Who needs WASPS?

Lots of people are disaffected from the religion of their birth, Hindus and Muslims included.

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Pakistan is experiencing one of the worst disasters ever with the flooding that is going on now. Have the Volunteer Vultures made an appearance?

New satellite images reveal the full extent of the Pakistan floods | Pakalert Press

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Weather weapons ?

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they have been silent, no press releases,..not even a whimper
so much for the 200,000 VM's globally

who ever is doing press releases. is over whelmed and doing something else besides concocting some kind of contrived response. to any disaster.

showing signs they are understaffed. or are chasing some of DM's whims. they have not sent out any major press releases on another disasters since Haiti.

they are having trouble keeping their once well oiled propaganda machine from running smoothly. I do believe the RUST has taken over.

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I'm sure that their OT Committee must be meeting about this matter and they will handle it in short order using their OT Powerz.

Oh, that's right.....all the OT Committee members have blown. They'll have to find another solution.

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Facebook group for VMs in Pakistan:

Idat Pakistan | Facebook

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And another one:

Dianetics Volunteer Pakistan | Facebook

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The Facebook pages pre-dates the floods that have hit Pakistan.

There is nothing on any of the VM sites that the cult sponsors that shows they have lifted a finger towards disaster relief in Pakistan after tragedy struck.

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Send in the OTs then all will be well.. oh wait... Joni Mitchell sang Send In The Clowns... yes... and stop killing innocent people, mob rule is stupid, please don't do it.

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See: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/ias-support-pakistan-71454/

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Scientology/Dianetics/Mind Sciences - Founded by a blasphemer of Rasool Allah s.a.w - Now in Pakistan! (Detailed Analysis)
by Pakistan Cyber Force [Official] on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 at 2:52pm
Read on Pakistan Cyber Force Website

Scientology/Dianetics/Mind Sciences - Founded by a blasphemer of Rasool Allah s.a.w - Now in Pakistan! (Detailed Analysis) | Facebook

Scientology/Dianetics/Mind Sciences - Founded by a blasphemer of Rasool Allah s.a.w - Now in Pakistan! (Detailed Analysis)
Read on Pakistan Cyber Force Facebook Page

read a long unsympathetic background of Scientology and Hubbard

its also mirrored here
http://pakifalcons.blogspot.com/2010/12/in-late-1940s-pulp-writer-l.html

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this ratbag is easy to find on google



Dr. Moiz Hussain
Institute of Mind Sciences
F-14/II-A
Block 9
Clifton, Karachi, Pakistan
Tel: +92-21-5836448-9 Fax: +92-21-5869863
E-Mail: infor@mind-sciences.com

Website: http://fasdez.com/moiz/index.php
http://www.nlptoday.com/moizhussain_bio.htm



Money Mind (Professor Moiz Hussain Web site)

typical seminar BS
http://www.moizhussain.com/money-mind.html

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What an utter fuckstick.

Now we know what Colonel Sanders is up to.

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ROFLMAO

The Pakistanis are blaming the Zionist Jews for conspiring to bring Scientology into Pakistan.

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He did write that all major religions with poss exception of Buddhism (for some reason) were implants. That should be enough to get someone in hot water. This was in OT VIII, Part 2

hubbard and farakhan akhbar !!