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Ron Savelo DMCA

Discussion in 'Youtube and Vimeo Problems' started by A.Non Hubbard, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    That will just get the video re-instated won't it ? Does it do anything to prevent further abuse ?
  2. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    The cult uses tactics that make you their ass monkey, the goal is NOT to become their ass monkey.
  3. LilDebbie Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    the goal here is to get a copy of ronny's DMCA claim, the one with the words "I HEREBY SWEAR UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY" on it, and then send that along to the people who prosecute perjury on the internets.
  4. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    We already had a lawfag weigh in on that it is rare that perjury charges are ever filed unless it is in federal court and even then not always.
  5. LilDebbie Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    if you do not ATTEMPT, you are guaranteed to FAIL.

    seriously guys, people said the same thing about taking on scientology at all. we have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. so take your sorry excuse for demoralizing propaganda and stick it where DAVID MISCAVIGE told you the BTs are hiding, OSAfag.
  6. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    I love your spunk (and that is a dangerous thing to say around here) but if it does not do anything other than get the videos re-instated then it would be much easier just to put up a sock puppet you tube account than go thru the hassle and not give Savelo or Ollie the satisfaction of us jumping thru their hoops.

    That does NOT mean that we should let them walk all over us. And there is good reason I am camped out in this thread.

    also this :

    17 USC 512
    Limitations on liability relating to material online
  7. Ravenmore Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Why not just film a video of yourself doing something, then pick tags that would get him to DMCA it?
    If it goes down, then he made a stupidly huge mistake and proving it being perjury is pretty much a slam dunk.

    No idea why there's 7 pages of talk.
  8. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    It's not the video tags that made Ron DMCA the video - it was the fact that it the thumbnail contained a picture of him, a picture from one of Shawn Lonsdale's videos. And that's exactly what YouTube user ARCism did. Ron saw the still picture, assumed it was all of the Shawn Lonsdale assault video, and DMCA'd it.
  9. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Actually he also DMCA'd my video that only contained text in the thumbnail. It seems he is DMCA-ing any video that uses the word scientology that is not saying that it is the best thing ever.
  10. LilDebbie Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    maybe you weren't listening: we can put ron savelo in jail for perjury. all it takes is someone who got DMCA'd to fight back. i would do it but i haven't had any videos taken down and i cannot make counter claims on behalf of others.

    your repetitive attempts to discourage people from taking the only action that will stop the DMCA abuse leads me to accuse you of being an OSA bot. i recommend the mods take a look at your IP and email registration.
  11. iaxiloll Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA


    An anon sent it to me to upload on my Russiantewb.


    Meet Scientologist Pat Harney Spokesperson
  12. Shinythings Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Seconded

    MOOOOOOOOOOODS!!!!!eleven!!!!!one!!!!!!111
  13. Herro Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    This person made a reasonable observation and disagrees with you. Therefore this person must be OSA. Perfectly rational line of thinking. But hey, witch hunts really do bring a community together.
  14. Hicks Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    No
  15. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    I encourage the mods to take a look at my information and if they choose they have my permission to PM not my screen name but their personal opinion of me being osa.

    Some may think the same of you btw.

    But I am trying to keep this thread going, I don't think that OSA would.

    Trust me.
  16. Hicks Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    No need to, I'm too lazy and you didn't even come close to looking like an OSA agent in my personal opinion.

    I won't send a pm either, I'll answer here to make sure everyone can read.
    We just have a bunch of people around here that like to call anyone that disagrees with them OSA. You'll eventually get used to it....


    Now back on topic plox?
  17. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Oh very nice this breaks into a new classification for DMCA claim, he is claiming copyright on public news broadcasts.

    And a few pictures of that he might actually own of Pat in some ugly UGLY dresses. (she's not a bad lookn' lady, if I was 20 years older I might ask her out for coffee.)
  18. Oswald2001 Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Yeah, but just as you are about to take a sip of your latte from Starbucks, she would casually slip a "Personality Test" on the table and insist that you take it.
  19. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    That is unless a cranky Gummi Bear stops you at the door and refuses you from entering somebody elses Starbucks.
  20. LilDebbie Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    i gave my reasons and the mods are perfectly capable of making their own decisions as to whether or not to follow up on my allegation. i would point out that i disagree with a lot of people here, yourself included, yet i don't accuse them all of being OSA.
  21. 3rdMan Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA



    We have the weapons.
  22. mrfyde Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Okay you do realize the two posts you are quoting are two entirely different things right ?
  23. 3rdMan Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Yeah, yeah, fix'd. Still think they're good points.
  24. Anonynamefag Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    I agree with the point that we should compile a list of every DMCA made by Ron Savelo, and drop it as a bombshell on EFF and IC3.

    I'm starting to hate Savelo as much as I hated Ollie when Ollie shut my channel down.
  25. LRonAnon Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    lrn2socialjustice you free speech stifling member of the music industry.
  26. lothar Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Everyone gets accused of being OSA around here, but they have done a good job highlighting the real OSA suspects. Their usernames show up in red just so you can easily spot them.

    I think my infraction points have expired by now, we'll see...
  27. Hicks Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Yeah sure, I'm OSA
    eye.gif

    Back to Ron Savelo. Interesting stuff in here, ron and ollie are indeed both litigious bastards.
  28. muldrake Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    It isn't that a DA couldn't get a case going, but they'd have to want to, and they're likely to see it as just Internet bullshit someone else should be dealing with. Perjury is generally only prosecuted when it occurs in a court case and affects the outcome (although a lot more things actually qualify as perjury such as knowingly false statements in a DMCA claim).

    A civil case would be pretty open and shut (plus a few months of procedural bullshit to deal with) if you could show that he used a DMCA complaint to take down videos that were yours (or at least not his), and this cost you any money at all to deal with. This could be as little as a dollar. Having any kind of commercial interest in YouTube that had to be set up elsewhere because of illegal harassment via fake DMCA complaints, such that you could show even a single lost sale due to the account not being available, would probably be good, too.

    The problem is finding a lawyer who would do the case for probably not much. They'd have to be interested in the subject, I think, because not many people, including lawyers, "get" the section of the DMCA in question. There's also the problem of who wants to be a plaintiff. The damages are pretty tiny, but the hassle of going to court is pretty big. So you'd have to spend weeks or months, appearing in court, going to depositions, dealing with bullshit, to get a dollar. The deal is better for the lawyer really, though even here, there have been very few lawsuits using it. Most lawyers are kind of leery of going outside their field of specialty, and the heavy duty intellectual property law specialists (unless they have personal convictions about the issue) aren't going to be interested in small cases, or cases where they don't get paid, a lot, up front.

    This is probably why nobody has gone after Ollie or Savelo, even though it's hardly impossible. If they keep pissing off new people, though, eventually they'll hit The Wrong Guy to Fuck With. Hope that's soon.
  29. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    I am wondering about the showing of damages, most of our you tube videos are done electronically, and do not require much money to produce but they do take more time to put together than many people might expect, then there is the research that goes into them. Then there is the hassle of hiring a lawyer and driving down to their office several times, taking off work, and rearranging your life to take care of something that some jerk who might live next door or across the country did for his own personal reasons or possibly a person who is acting as an agent for a cult.
  30. Obi-Wan-anon Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    This is why the repeated DMCA complaint from Ron and Ollie have the effect they do - nobody wants to take it on, so they keep it up.

    Untill his accounts start to get shut down on YouTube or Vimeo for DCMA complaints, he's not gonna stop attacking others.

    Need to find a way to get the same videos out, without touching his "reasons".
  31. mrfyde Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    NO. His videos he produces himself. Unless you want an entire cult sharing the workload to come after you for it you don't want to mess with his videos.

    Scientologists Don't like it when they are interviewed on the street but the CCHR does not mind not asking to use photo's of kids and interviews with Psychiatrists with out permission and in the issue of the psych's CCHR usually has that right. But with pics of the kids it is an entirely different matter. The copyright usually stays with the photographer or family member who buys the photo when the pic is taken professionally.

    It WOULD be interesting to see if those pictures are being used in FREEDOM magazine. :)
  32. mrfyde Member

  33. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Actually, all the videos that he produced while working through Access Pinellas, public access television for Pinellas County are copyrighted by both Axiom 10 Productions and the State of Florida through Pinellas County. The copyright agreement is a matter of public record that could be acquired from Pinellas County.
  34. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Please explain more how this helps I don't quite understand.
  35. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    I got an answer back from EFF

  36. Anonymous Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    Thank you that will be noted. Do you have a date for this letter ?
  37. Silent Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    <3 EFF
  38. LilDebbie Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    WELL GOOD THING YOU CONTACT THE EFF INSTEAD OF FILING A COUNTER CLAIM

    in case my sarcasm isn't obvious enough: FILE A FUCKING COUNTER CLAIM
  39. SpunkyMonkey Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    FUCK YOU AND THE CULT HORSE YOU RODE IN ON, RON SAVELO!



    I will of course be uploading a brand new video shortly, just for you, Ron.
  40. LRonAnon Member

    Re: Ron Savelo DMCA

    >.>

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