Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 I have no idea why you think the question is paranoid. I am in neither San Diego or the Riverside network. It affects me in no way. But a political figure should at least be in the network of most of his constituents. At least in his more public social networking sites. So unless you are a paid public employee, like Stone, I don't care what network you are in.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 What "Heinous activities" is this scientology shill JEFF STONE talking about?? this guy talks just like a scilon
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 Because the Temecula area is South Riverside County and is closer to San Diego than it is to Riverside.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 WOW...he is really on the hook ...and it is going to blow up in his face as facts come out about Scientology. Please oh please let there be a video made public of the musical chairs incident that can be shown in the meeting. An anon needs to go to the next meeting and ask Jeff Stone if he thinks certain things are heinous that are taking place in his back yard. The man is scum. That quote will come back to bite him in the ass.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 Correct. I am the one that asked Bacca when he came on the site to answer a few questions. Nathan said he was not related to the Sheriff Lee Baca.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 More to the point, San Diego is moderately prestigious. Its where all the cool kids live, where they want to be. Rivercide is moderately lolpenis. Its where the losers end up when there's no where else to go. No big surprise that people from the "Inland Empire" might prefer to identify with SD over Riverside. All the current dox we have for Mr B**ttner locate him in San Diego County. Shocking, isn't it? lrn2california Edit: for those not familiar with CA, SD is (among the places) where the money lives. Riverside isn't.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 Please oh please let there be a video made public of the musical chairs incident that can be shown in the meeting! (My fingers are clasped really tight in prayer formation. That's gotta count for something.)
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 Hee! (I am 6.) LOLDONGS 2 U 2! THIRDED: "Please oh please let there be a video made public of the musical chairs incident that can be shown in the meeting." YES OH YES.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 FOURTH'D PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE. only thing better would be a raid on gold, FBI finds Jeff Stone dox at gold in davey's jewelry box, davey is led out in handcuffs. etc, etc
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 I would like to make a couple of comments. They aren't meant to be criticism. They are just another viewpoint. Sometimes, it is better to shut up and let the enemy give you info to hang them with. It is a tactic that is good in theory but hard for people to put into practice. The natural tendency is to interrupt with your viewpoint - especially when you feel what the person is saying is incorrect. Lirra should have shut up and let Pam Walls talk and corrected her at the end. Here is why. Pam indicated that if the anonymous booklet wasn't put into the record it was because of an inadvertent slip. You should have let her expound on that in order to give you info to use later. Stone said that he didn't have to put it in the record. ORLY???? So who is right? Pam Walls - it's inadvertent or Slimy Stone - NAH NAH NAH NAH we don't have to. Someone should ask Taviliogne if he got a copy of the booklet. How did he come up with the question about the KKK and cape and mask? This goes to the part of the Brown act that talks about distribution. The copy entered into evidence (i.e. record) was NOT for sure the copy that Stone waved around. It might be but we don't know for sure. All we know for sure is that it is a copy that was given to Nathan Baca. The one Stone had might be another copy. It might have notes on it. Which leads to this point. Someone needs to get up there and ask for the documents allowed to be viewed under the California Public Records Act which includes that spiral bound copy, notes, emails, letters, etc. Also, I would ask Stone if his campaign manager or the man helping him had taken any Scientology classes. Did he direct his campaign manager to photograph license plates of peaceful protesters? Maybe someone should contact the Republican Party about the intimidation tactics of someone who is/was the COO of a chapter of the Republican Party. You might also send a clip of Regina Stone hugging Catherine Fraser. Point out that Stone INITIATED the hug. Accompany it with the information that is coming out about Scientology. They are poison to any campaign. Ask Sarah Palin!
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 One of my favorite quotes is "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake", by Napoleon Bonaparte. However there is a difference between making a mistake and repeating a lie. I will not allow anybody to tell a lie at my or Julie's expense. No amount of information which can be gained for use at a later time is worth "shutting up" when a lie is being told at your expense. As to waiting untill she finishes and then correcting her, it is not possible. The clock keeps on ticking and before you know it "Your time is up". I like your point about the alleged booket perhaps not being the same as the one given to Baca and copied for us. It's been brought up before but may be worth bringing up again. Also, the point you made about Tavaglione and if the other Sup's were given a copy are good ones. In the future don't worry about prefacing your comments by stating they are not meant as criticism. It takes a lot to offend me and you haven't even come close I do appreciate the moral support Take care.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 Live in California?? Talk to these people about Stone, show them his close ties to Scientology (the hug)...the intimidation tactics of his campaign manager, and his changing story. California Republican Party | Contact Information Let them know he is hurting their party.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 Joel Anderson might be interested in the dust up with Jonathan Buettner Joel Anderson | Ask him if his campaign manager goes around taking photos of license plates of protesters. What was Jonathan Buettner planning to do with those license plates numbers? Are all protesters going to have their license plates numbers photographed. What if they want to stay anonymous? Is the info going to be leaked to Scientologists who practice fair game - since Regina Stone was caught initiating a hug with the PR person of Scientology? Oh, and you might mention the info is going to be sent to the Democrats, too. So maybe the Republicans will clean up their act before the Democrats nail them on it. Most of you may have seen this but there is a little blurb about protesters of Scientology in this article about Stone REGION: Supervisor Stone seeking Sacramento seat : North County Times - Californian 06-13-2009
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 "Hideous activities of this unfortunate group of people".... Jeff Stone Wouldn't this would look great on a t-shirt for the next meeting? I was also ask him exactly what he meant by "hideous activities" and what "unfornate group of people" meant. Let me see, "crazy ass allegations" and now this quote. Addded to his previous ones.... Stone is getting a nice file of quotes so far! Someone should compile them and put them all together.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 crazy ass, yes. criminal, no. stone is entitled to his opinion of our aesthetics. although i am kinda curious wtf he meant by "unfortunate".
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 perhaps: Unfortunately a herd of smart irreverent reprobates stumbled across my life of political faggotry AND THEY AIN'T GOING AWAY!
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 The North County Times article about Jeff Stone's plans to run for the State Senate, includes a minefield of comments (some clever reporting). Meaning, Jeff Stone needs lots of money and his sister will get her cut of it too. Meaning, Jeff Stone wants to enforce payback, on the same state agency that caught him doing dirty business at his Pharmacy. Meaning: "Dirty" business is nothing new to Jeff Stone. At least by comparison George Costanza (caught eating an eclair out of the trash in Seinfeld) didn't profit, by selling trashed and potentially hazardous food to other people. The rights of the public, are subservient to money Jeff Stone can get for himself! Meaning: "Jeff Stone: Politics has turned the boy I once knew, into a liar already."
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 "Hideous activities" = protesting human rights violations indirectly supported by Jeff Stone? How very inconvenient For Jeff Stone's great ambitions, Anonymous ain't lenient, With Scilons' vile traditions.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 But the storm he hadn't seen yet Had already raised suspicion Spilled over the dams in Hemet So 'fortune' meets fruition.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 Lolrichkidfag. Riverside has a lot more money (and history of money - it was the playground of the rich back at the turn of the century and the starting point of the California citrus industry) than you think; both it and Corona are chock full of million dollar homes. But no, the IE in general isn't exactly Beverly Hills. Due to the geography of Riverside County, Temecula/Murietta/Menifee are all quite displaced from Riverside proper and are practically North San Diego County. That said, it's still a shitball area and I hope it dies in a fire [STRIKE]and takes Lake Elsinore with it[/STRIKE]. This pissing contest has been brought to you by a Riverside County resident. (Please save me.)
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 How is Jeff Stone's affiliation with Scientology hurting the Republican Party? I'm still blown away by the number of politicians, community leaders, and people on the street I speak with, including members of the Los Angeles Police Commission who have absolutely no idea why people dislike and protest Scientology. The biggest threat we face is apathy and ignorance. Unless you provide members of the California Republican Party with very specific incidences & reports of abuse & criminal behavior in Scientology, they are not going to listen to you. Politicians represent constituents of every color, stripe, religious persuasion and cause. I suspect they see & hear from their share of kooks as well. They are continuously lobbied by special interest groups and in some cases, Scientologist celebrities, when there is an agenda to be pushed. Education & awareness is the only thing that is going to wake people up to the cult's abuses & criminality. Simply informing someone that a person is affiliated with the Church of Scientology is a waste of time.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 love the way he raises his eyebrows, almost an eye roll. What a complete and utter dick
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 The most effective form of education and awareness is when it becomes well known and people are well aware that they will lose political support and/or political office by sucking up to the Evil $pace Alien Mind Control CULT. Make an example of Cult Ho Stone.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 I caught the raising of the eyebrows. I don't know if it was an eyeroll. Maybe it was surprise that they had been caught by Smurf's camera. Julie missed a perfect opportunity ...JS says his wife would like a copy of the picture taken at some event...it would have been great if she had caught that and said..Would she like a copy of the picture where she INITIATES the hug with Catherine Fraser, too...bahahahaha I probably wouldn't have thought of it at the time..but it would have been a great comeback.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 Jeff Stone's association hurts the Republian party for the same reason the Clintons association with John Travolta and especially John Coale hurts the Democratic party: Scientology is pure political poison. Scientology is an anti-psychiatry hate group and Church of Human Trafficking and Coerced Abortion. This distinguishes us from an ordinary lobbying group. We are lobbying against organized crime operation on the verge of dissolution in France for corporate fraud. We see many calls for education, such as this excellent one by Mike Kropveld of Infocult Montreal: A Comparison of Different Countries Approaches to Cult-Related Issues at the 28 April 2007 Hamburg meeting Cults and Esotericism: New Challenges for Civil Societies in Europe on the Fecris website. What I do not see much of are calls for educators, i.e., activists who are going to engage, educate, and recruit the public and particularly politicians. It is difficult for me to imagine that most anons would contact politicians simply to identify a politician as associated with Scientology without mentioning its human trafficking and other abuses or serious charges of fraud leveled against it in France and Belgium. Sarah Palin seems to have gotten the message and has "thrown Coale under the bus" as Gawker put it. I have further reflections here.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 I'm wondering if Stone is related to the old-line Cali influential conservative repub "Stone" family, goes back 3 gen, of the John Wayne-Pete Wilson ilk. I'm old, but that shit is a factor strategically. We tuck that thought and those anti-gay and other awful ripples away for later. Nice to see you Tom. Always sharp. I was one of your readers followed by that asshole PI you know all about, Bradley Brunon observer. (how 'bout that criminal part of Michael Jackson). Enuff on that, eh?
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 This is one thing that stuck with me. This man should, by now, have a clear definition of who "Anonymous" is, yet he stupidly wants to stand by his original- not fully informed (or fully a tool)- opinion of this group of people. For him to stick to his argument, that "Anonymous" is this hideous hate group out for the lulz, makes him look like a retard at this stage of the game. Last week Anonymous was represented by those glorious people, well spoken, smart, articulate... but now JS is calling them what? Really?!!! I agree that that video from Lirra & Julie is pure GOLD! NOBODY in their right mind acts that way and it is beyond CREEPY!!!
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 FYI, the Riverside County Supervisors will not meet on Tuesday, July 7. The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, July 14.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 The crooked Sup, Jeff Stone rode in the City of Temecula July 4th parade. The PA announcer (City of Temecula) announced over the loudspeakers to around 10 thousand people that Jeff Stone was running for State Senate and the we should all support his candidacy. I puked. Jeff Stone is often seen at Temecula City Council meetings to gain (perceived) recognition from his power base, he was a Temecula City Council member and the current Tem council is as corrupt as he is. Watch for Stone to show up at these council meetings and spew his flaming liar tongue!
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 The way he was laughing... that guy is such a creep. I've never seen such a slimy politician in all my life.
Re: Riverside supervisors meeting 6/30/09 You should. That's not normal. In fact I'm not certain it's even legal; check with a legal beagle. If possible, a semi-private meeting should be arranged with GOP central committees, esp. those in Stone's district, briefing them on the problem with Scientology, and highlighting the political aspects. At least 100% of those who do the presenting should be either exes, or Republicans; bonus points for Republicans who are already known to the central committee members. Reserve a multimedia-equipped library conference room, or something similar, and invite the CC members to attend. Let them know that it's an important subject and that your interest is in informing the politically influential about it; again, bonus points for couching all that in more specifically Republican terms. Make sure to have -- and announce -- multiple presenters so the presentation looks more authoritative and full. This should be done for the Dems too, although it's perhaps a little less urgent since Stone's a Repub. OTOH the Dems have a lot of power right now, so maybe it's just as urgent on that side.... I'm happy to work with anyone on this idea; PM me or start a new thread and PM me the URL for it.
