request: Homo Superior, Here We Come!

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  1. Anonymous Member

    request: Homo Superior, Here We Come!

    Hubbard published "Homo Superior, Here We Come!" in Marvel Science Stories in 1951.

    It is mentioned in the Scientology book edited by James R. Lewis, but I can't find a copy.

    Does anyone have a scan/ocr/whatever or know where I can find it?
  2. COB Member

    Re: request: Homo Superior, Here We Come!

    I think you are confused and talking about Astounding Science Fiction May 1950. If you are, it's here if you're not I'll look again.
  3. Anonymous Member

    Re: request: Homo Superior, Here We Come!

    Nope, I'm not confused.

    The article in ASF was titled "Dianetics: The Evolution of a Science" and was printed in '50, the first time Hubbard's Dianetics ideas were in print.

    "Homo Superior, Here We Come!" was published the following year in Marvel Science Stories according to "The Cultural Context of Scientology" by William Sims Bainbridge in the Lewis book.

    Thanks for any help!
  4. Anonymous Member

    Re: request: Homo Superior, Here We Come!

    Nope it is listed in CSI copyrights.

    OWNER: Church of Spiritual Technology (Los Angeles)
    TITLE: Homo superior here we come
    NUMBER: RE 35-837

    Here is the book reference OP is talking about:
    Scientology - Google Books

    It claims it was an essay in "Marvel" which all other biblio references is Marvel Science Stories.
  5. MongoLloyd Member

    Re: request: Homo Superior, Here We Come!


    You gotta make way for the homo superior!

    Srsly, LRH used that term before Bowie?
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  6. Zoom Member

    Re: request: Homo Superior, Here We Come!

    The Marvel connection, as we know, was in that late issue of Amazing Adult Fantasy somewhat before it debuted Spider-Man. A man discovers he can fly, and zooms off to meet a bald telepath (who may or may not have been Professor X).

    I believe that story mentions Homo Superior. And if it doesn't, Professor X and Magneto were always going on about it in the pages of X-Men since 1963.

    Now... it's interesting if Stan Lee got the Latin term for "Mutant" from LRH, but then again, comic writers from the 50s/60s would use ideas from almost anywhere. For all we know, Lee read up on Scientology and thought some of it was silly enough for comics.

    Marvel Science Stories?
    1939 seems a bit early for this...
  7. Anonymous Member

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  9. Anonymous Member

    Re: request: Homo Superior, Here We Come!

    Bowie was Homo Erectus
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  10. DeathHamster Member

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  12. Anonymous Member

    I see that Lester del Rey wrote the article described as being "Con" as opposed to "Pro" and entitled "Superman C.O.D". A seminal piss-take by the sounds of it. I would like to read that.
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  14. billybob Member

    If I read this right, it says on the cover:
    Special Feature
    The Dianetics Question
    A Controversy by
    3 Prominent SFF writers.
    L Ron Hubbard - Pro
    Lester Del Rey -Con
    Theordore Sturgeon - Center

    So, they set up a debate over Dianetics? Amazing that Hubbard would subject it to any critical scrutiny whatsoever. I wonder what Lester wrote!

    It makes me want to know a lot more about his time with the early SF writers clubs.
    I sure would love to read all three of those articles!
  15. adhocrat Member

    anyone know anything about that guitar? It's fascinating.
  16. Are those cheap white plastic tuning knobs? Hound Dog Taylor or Jimmy Reed would have loved one of those.
  17. grebe Member

    The Spiders from Mars became Scientologists. At the end of the Ziggy Stardust tour, Bowie fired them all. Then he went through a very strange paranoid period, around 1975.
  18. Anonymous Member

    It looks like Eddie Van Halen's first guitar.
    Fender Jaguar/Strat knock-off.
  19. Anonymous Member

    DOX would be good here.

    The "strange paranoid period" ran into 1976, where its cause got a mention (two, really) in the title track of the album he released that year. Nope, you'll have to guess which one ;)
  20. Anonymous Member

    I can only guess - tricked out Stratocaster?
  21. adhocrat Member

    well, some research tells me it might be a Hagstrom. Not a Fender at all.
    It does look like a Jag Strat hybrid.
  22. grebe Member

    Okay here's one:

    And here's another:


    Wouldn't it be weird, being in a band with Scientologists?

  23. billybob Member

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  24. I'll bite. Station to Station.

    One of my desert island albums.;)
  25. DeathHamster Member

    Still wouldn't mind reading Hubbard's spew and Lester del Rey's rebuttal.
  26. Anonymous Member

    Reported for derailing.
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  27. The Wrong Guy Member

    In 1951, L. Ron Hubbard’s fellow SF writers debated him about ‘badly-written’ Dianetics

    By Tony Ortega, August 16, 2016


    Underground Bunker reader Once Born, who runs the always informative blog, Scientology Books and Media, got his hands on a fascinating 1951 issue Marvel Science Stories that contains a three-part debate over Dianetics, L. Ron Hubbard’s invention that had been released the year before. In this piece, being released simultaneously here and at his blog, Once Born goes through the magazine debate, which featured Hubbard himself.

    The Marvel Science Stories that we’re looking at today came out in May 1951 — one year after the first article describing “Dianetics” appeared in Astounding Science Fiction. During this time, the editor of Astounding, John W Campbell (initially an enthusiastic convert) had promoted Dianetics for all he was worth.

    However, by March 1951 the Dianetics fad had run its course in Astounding (you can follow the rise and fall of Dianetics in Astounding here).

    Marvel took this opportunity to capitalize on the interest in the subject by publishing this written debate between Hubbard and two prominent science fiction authors, Theodore Sturgeon and Lester del Rey. Hubbard didn’t get the easy ride he’d received from Campbell. Although Sturgeon rather sat on the fence, he was far from enthusiastic, and del Rey dismissed Dianetics as absurd pseudoscience.

    This kind of thing had been published before. The author James Blish had given a generally favorable assessment of Dianetics in another pulp SF magazine, Planet Stories, in November 1950 – only six months after its introduction. However, by May 1951, when Marvel joined the fray, the SF community seems to have tired of the hype surrounding Dianetics. They were apparently prepared to kick Hubbard a bit, while he was down.

    Here’s how the “debate” was presented:


    Continued here:
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