Re: Reaching out to Rinder and Rathbun We have nothing to believe they have. They have not spoken to the press about anything that would lead anyone to believe that DM is entirely repsonsible and I believe that it was quoted that Rathbun basically felt that the feds had tried to fuck him over so much he would not talk to them. that is not a direct quote. But there are statute of limitations issues to consider. thank you for understanding. I am willing to work with them depending on their intentions. Thanks for responding Smurf. I know you where close to one of them at one time. I was not shouting in my post that you quoted, and I actually thought I was bing nice while at the same time saying something I thought needed to be said and it seems you also have had similar thoughts. And I say thanks for responding because you are the first I have seen admit that you have had contact with one of them and have had discussions with him. (I assume it is one of the three hims) So thank you for your honesty.