Protester arrested at "Stand Tall" raid at Celebrity Centre, Aug. 6, 2011

Discussion in 'USA - West Coast' started by mnql1, Aug 6, 2011.

  1. Anonymous Member

    Bowties are cool.
  2. xenubarb Member

    Officer Pushypants!
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  3. anonamus Member

    Yeah, it gives a whole new meaning to Steppenwolf's "The pusher".

    "God damn ... the pusherman!"
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  4. Officer Push-in-Boots
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  5. lostatsea Member

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  6. Herro Member

    To be fair anti, you are a very ugly man.
  7. Sponge Member

    Needs moar "punch"...

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  8. Herro Member

    You are just so adorable.
  9. firebug Member


    Is this the same Ken Long who told the mother of the abused children in the Tony Strawn case she would be declared if she reported it to the police.
  10. Interrobanger Member

    What happened to Steve's camera between the time the officer grabs it and Steve is cuffed? It almost looks like the officer takes the camera from Steve while escorting him past the work zone signs, pushes Steve away and then pockets the camera as the officer turns to confront Steve the second time. I will be very interested to learn why Steve was irate.
  11. anonamus Member

    Anyone have news re. the arrested anon?
    Has he been released yet?
    With this video evidence, I wouldn't hesitate to file a complaint.
    The guy might have had his head run over by a car.
  12. Sonichu Moderator

    "I wear a bow tie now, bow ties are cool!"

    Scis must want to EoC because they seem determined to get into as many frivolous lawsuits as they can right now. Have they ever considered that the plan to get people caught in lawsuits might work on them as well?
  13. the anti Member

    you're just pissy you can't have long hair like me that most women to do nothing but want to braid it...
  14. DeathHamster Member

    Court legal vending machines usually only take $5,000 coins and up, frequently keep demanding that you insert more coins, and you rarely get exactly what you selected (if anything at all).

    Go ahead, if you want and you've got the spare change, but most people think twice about getting into an ass-kicking contest with a skunk.
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  15. Anonymous Member

    I'll just leave this here.

  16. anonamus Member

    I had the same thought watching the vid. It looks to me that mr. PushyCop snaps the camera out of Steve's hand and then he pocket it on his way back to Steve the 2nd time.
  17. anonamus Member

    Here's the slowmotion version again:
  18. Anonymous Member

    That cop pushed him into oncoming traffic. Attempted manslaughter.
  19. Herro Member

    Lol no.
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  20. anonamus Member

    Probably a too dramatic accusation. But no doubt dangerous out-of-line behaviour. Cop = back to issuing parking tickets (sacked, if I were in charge).
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  21. Xenu Is Lord Member

    Some thoughts I have had about their security. In CA it is unlawful for a Security Guard to patrol public streets and if they are coming or going to work they can not even wear their uniform if they stop for gas, as the public might confuse them with the police. If one of these guards took a camera then that would be theft as they have no authority to take and keep it.

    Also, never debate these people, they are not police anything you say will be twisted by them to the police. Sadly cops do look at them as having some level of credibility.

    Another idea is to see if their company is registered and in compliance with state guard laws. Do the guys have guard card?
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  22. DeathHamster Member

    ^^ this, especially during special events when they put more bodies on the street. Also, can foreign nationals on religious visas get a security guard license?

    There are a couple threads discussing this back in the dawn of time.
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  23. Anonymous Member

  24. Anonymous Member

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  25. Anonymous Member

    Ask to see their card.

    Security Guard:
    Security guards, bodyguards, patrolmen, and watchmen are considered "security guards." Security guards employed by a private patrol operator must possess a valid security guard registration, and must possess a valid registration for any Bureau approved weapon while acting in the capacity of a security guard.
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  28. Smurf Member

    Yes. His former job as a paralegal in OSA-Legal was to create false affidavits to use against critics. He created the phony docs that Eugene Ingram paid a drug addict to sign claiming she worked as a stripper in a seedy roadside tavern with Cynthia Kisser, the then-director of the Cult Awareness Network (which the cult used to great extent with the international media). He also created the phony docs I was forced to sign in 1996 against Graham Berry which I later recanted in a court hearing.
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  29. Anonymous Member

    Since they are not employed by a licensed private patrol operator, it may be illegal in California.



    A security guard must have in his/her possession a valid security guard registration or a screen-print of the Bureau's approval from the Bureau's web site at, along with a valid photo identification, before working as a security guard.
    Security guards are employed by licensed private patrol operators to protect persons or property and prevent theft. To be eligible to apply for a security guard registration, you must:
    • Be at least 18 years old
    • Undergo a criminal history background check through the California Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI); and
    • Complete a 40-hour course of required training. The training and exam may be administered by any private patrol operator or by a certified training facility.
  30. Anonymous Member

    There's another category for guards employed to provide security services for their employer: Proprietary Private Security Employee.
  31. Anonymous Member

    Of course we realize that this is in no way helpful, right?
  32. DeathHamster Member

    Yeah, the sticky point is that it's up to the local police to ask to see their cards and prosecute them. Local police like Officer Push-In-Boots.
  33. Anonymous Member

    Contacting these folks might help. Issues with property lines and guard compliance could be answered by them.

    Unlicensed And Unregistered Activity Lead

    In February of 2009, the Bureau of Security and Investigative Services (BSIS) developed an Unlicensed Activity Action Unit (UAAU) to increase their efforts to curtail unlicensed and unregistered activities of those performing work in the Private Security Industries which include Alarm Companies, Locksmiths, Repossessors, Private Investigators, Private Patrol Companies, Security Guards, and Weapons Training Facilities.
    This unit is staffed by experienced enforcement analysts from within BSIS’s Enforcement Division. UAAU primary function is to investigate unlicensed and or unregistered activity leads received from the public, licensees and government agencies; as well as conduct sweeps with other law enforcement and governmental agencies.
    The Bureau has simplified the reporting process by providing an online activity lead form. The informant may remain anonymous but if there is not enough information provided the Bureau may not be able to pursue. Anonymous activity lead forms will be kept confidential. The activity lead forms are processed according to the date of receipt, priority, and staff availability. You must provide as much detailed information as possible including the location(s) and time(s) of the activity which are extremely important.
    • Access the online UAAU Activity Lead form here
    • Complete the UAAU Activity Lead Form and submit it to the Bureau either by:
    • Mail it to the Bureau at:

      Bureau of Security and Investigative Service
      P.O. Box 980550
      West Sacramento, California 95798
      ATTN: UAAU
    • Fax it to the Bureau at: (916) 575-7289
    • Email it to the Bureau at:
  34. DeathHamster Member

    Okay, that's new since the last thread in 2008.

    We would need dox that a number of the LRH Way guards weren't registered: legal names and that they weren't on the list. (And then try to get past their GiveAFuck threshold.)
  35. Smurf Member

    Interesting. Obviously, pressure was placed on the cult to register it's PAC Base security officers. They were able to hold off until last year to do it. Buddy has been licensed for years.

    Licensee Name: Odo Huber
    Licensee Type: Guard/Patrolperson Registration
    License Number: 1685802
    Expiration Date: June 30, 2012
    Issue Date: June 16, 2010
    City/County: Los Angeles

    Licensee Name: Ryan J. Boswell
    Licensee Type: Guard/Patrolperson Registration
    License Number: 1686000
    Expiration Date: June 30, 2012
    Issue Date: June 16, 2010
    City/County: Los Angeles

    318020 BOSWELL RYAN J - Firearm Permit

    Licensee Name: Jason True
    Licensee Type: Guard/Patrolperson Registration
    License Number: 1686001
    Expiration Date: June 30, 2012
    Issue Date: June 16, 2010
    City/County: Los Angeles

    318021 TRUE JASON SAMUEL - Firearm Permit

    Licensee Name: James (Buddy) Richardson (Celebrity Center)
    Licensee Type: Guard/Patrolperson Registration
    License Number: 1263992
    Expiration Date: April 30, 2012
    Issue Date: Nov. 19, 1999
    City/County: Los Angeles

    315631 RICHARDSON JAMES E Firearm Permit

  36. xenubarb Member

    I googled 'push in boots' and got this:

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  37. Xenu Is Lord Member

    From the power to arrest book for CA GUARDS

    4.Review the most important points in the text: A security guard is NOT a peace officer.
    A security guard’s primary responsibility is to protect the property or persons he or she is assigned to protect.
    The main role of a security guard is PREVENTION. If prevention is not possible, the role of a security guard is to OBSERVE and REPORT.
    In reporting activity, a FACT is an event that actually occurs. A CONCLUSION is a belief one reaches as a result of the existence of certain facts.
    A security guard is an agent of the property owner and can question people on the owner’s property.
     A security guard may prevent someone from entering private property by standing in his way.

    A security guard making an arrest must tell the suspect of the INTENTION to arrest,
    the CAUSE for the arrest, and the security guard’s AUTHORITY to make such an arrest.
    REASONABLE FORCE in an arrest situation is a degree of force reasonably needed to
    detain an individual and to protect oneself.
    A security guard should never touch a suspect except for self defense, or when necessary to use reasonable force in effecting an arrest.
    If contraband or stolen items are discovered while searching for weapons, those items should be left on the suspect, unless there is a likelihood the suspect will dispose of them.
    When the suspect is turned over to the peace officer, he should be notified of the discovered items.

    Trying to look like cops is cause for a complaint.
    What happens when a security guard PRETENDS to be a peace officer?
    Any security guard who pretends or even implies (lets others think) that he is a peace officer is committing a crime. A person who is found guilty of impersonating a peace officer could be punished by a fine or county jail sentence and his registration may be denied or revoked.
    DON’T MISLEAD PEOPLE. Because of your uniform, badge, hat or other gear, some people may think you are a peace officer. DON’T do anything to encourage this false idea. Whenever the opportunity arises, make it a point to let them know that you are NOT a peace officer, but a security guard.

    I guess this does not apply to Protesters huh!
    Guilt by association is not a lawful way to make arrests. Let’s look at an example:
    (Revised 02/02)
    It is 11:00 p.m. and a guard is making his rounds of the plant when he finds Gate No. 5 open. There are pry marks on the chain that normally holds the gate shut. About 50 yards from the gate is an old pickup truck parked by the side of the road. The hood is up, and two men are bent over looking at the motor. The guard walks over and says, “All right, you guys. What are you doing here?” One of the men responds by saying, “What’s it to you pal?” The guard answers angrily, “Look, you better tell me what you’re doing here or you’re in trouble!” Neither man replies. One of them gets into the driver’s seat and turns over the engine. The guard then asks, “Didn’t you hear what I said?” The other man says, “Leave us alone.” The guard moves to the front of the truck and grabs the man’s arm, stating, “You guys aren’t going anywhere until you answer a few questions.”
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  38. Sponge Member

    From a camera-carrying anon at the scene, apparently this is officer push'n'boots badge #10751

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  39. Anonymous Member

  40. Anonymous Member

    You missed the part in red.

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