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Discussion in 'Narconon' started by Anonymous, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. Anonymous Member

    Oh goodie, another Chanology apostate thread!
  2. Anonymous Member

    Congratulations OP, I think this is the first time ever a post has been removed because it was voted "dumb" too many times. You should proud. You won the dumb trophey!
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  3. Anonymous Member

    OSA you posted the same exact thing in another thread are you really that bored?

    Narconon is a Killing Machine

    There are 13,000 rehabs in the USA which average 12 deaths per year from all causes, overdose, suicide etc..

    Yet in a 9 month period Narconon killed 3 people!
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  4. Anonymous Member

    Yes, people who do not have the character to take anything on, populate the peanut gallery rather than take on actually producing something, risking failure and exposing themselves to couch potatoes with opinions. I saw an excellent video of Tony Blair talking about the embarrassment of his and his groups repeated public failures in their involvement of middle east peace talks. It takes something to risk great failure and embarrassment and criticism from others with brilliant opinions .
  5. Anonymous Member


    Where are the arrests for murder or manslughter?

    When dealing with high risk groups, this is what happens and everyone, especially the families and loved ones) are desperately looking for someone to blame.
  6. Anonymous Member

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  7. Ignore the very real benefits to those suffering from addiction when they get cleaned up using methods that work, which does NOT include NarCONon. Even ignoring the reduction of human suffering, there are other legitimate reasons for society to act to help these people. Those who are addicts can be driven to great extremes, including prostitution and crime, to get their next fix. Sharing needles among IV drug users spreads disease both among users and with those who have had sex or had contact with the blood of IV drug users. I won't even get into the other more easily spread diseases that thrive in their compromised immune systems. This alone is reason enough to focus on treatment, including a harm-reduction strategy, because this protects the wider public.

    Let's go back to the human toll, though. Those suffering from addiction are someone's brother, sister, mother, father, uncle, aunt, or child. It isn't just those who are addicted who suffer. As an atheist and humanist, my main agreement with Christianity is that we are our brothers' keeper. As people, we have a moral obligation to reduce and resolve suffering and injustice wherever we see it.

    OP, eat a bag of dicks.
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  8. Anonymous Member

    It sounds like you are desperately looking to blame the families.
  9. Anonymous Member

    I am just aware that when a person suffers a loss, it is human to look for a person or thing to blame. There are often wasteful pointless inquests to keep the families appeased. Think of Michael Jackson and all the scapegoating that went on around his death. The guy lived a remarkably unhealthy life and bribed and bought as many enablers as only a rich person can do. That man caused is own death 100%. Yet people want to engage in some other conversation and find someone one else to blame. So Michael jackson bought his own Dr. It was an assisted suicide. The source of it is jackson not the Dr. who assisted him.

    Narconon is dealing with people already headed to a bad place and with a good chance of death with or without Narconon's help. And I don't even know what Narconon does. I just have been around the block a few times and know alcoholics.
  10. Anonymous Member

    No clue what you are talking about.
  11. Anonymous Member

    Narconon is a Killing Machine

    There are 13,000 rehabs in the USA which average 12 deaths per year from all causes, overdose, suicide etc..

    Yet in a 9 month period Narconon killed 3 people!

  12. Anonymous Member

    cool story bro
  13. Anonymous Member

    Yes, the OP posted the same thing in another thread, the very same thread where he REFUSED to spell Miscavige correctly, and REFUSED to spell Narconon correctly, and tried very hard NOT to even mention the word Narconon. This is not just a funny coincidence, not just his obtuseness, not a lark, dude has uplines orders NOT to link these threads with MISCAVIGE and NARCONON .


    Yes, DAVID MISCAVIGE is a short little PSYCHOPATH.

    The profits of Narconon ($30,000 a pop) go to fund David Miscavige's lavish lifestyle and paranoid ways-- paying PIs to spy on Pat Broeker and MARTY.

    NARCONON charges a lot of money, and delivers SUBSTANDARD, NEGLIGENT care. People die because of LACK OF SUPERVISION and LACK OF TRAINING of the amateur counsellors. NO MEDICAL SUPERVISION. NONE.

    And lordy, they DO NOT give refunds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  14. Anonymous Member

    And I will pass on the "dicks" you seem to be so excited about. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Pussy for me thank-you.
  15. If Narconon is so great, why were they closed by the Quebec government, and why are they being sued for a death in Georgia? Why does the mortality and relapse rate at Narconons far, far exceed the norm? They're not a treatment center. They're a Scientology front group and recruiting tool. Nothing more.
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  17. Anonymous Member

    Our planet is a money grubbing mess in case you have not noticed. Lately I have seen advertising on elevator doors, the stairs in the mall, on bathroom stalls. Our society is interested in getting as much $ from it's citizens as it can. SO effing what if Scientology is part of the $ game. I find the whole $ thing short lived and grotesque. But this is our society and we currently worship $
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  18. Anonymous Member

    It is spelled NarCONon NarCONon NarCONon NarCONon

    Can't do it, can you? Bwahahahahaha

    Oh yeah, it's also spelled Miscavige Miscavige Miscavige
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  19. Anonymous Member

    Two wrongs don't make a right.
  20. Anonymous Member

    Really dude? You are under orders not to even spell Scientology correctly? REALLY? Kind of hard to troll if you can't even type the words. They've got one of your hands tied behind your back, eh?

    Just for your edification:

    Scientology. It's spelled SCIENTOLOGY.


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  21. Anonymous Member

    IMO it is more than just "two wrongs", it is an acceptable way of life and a culture. $$$$$$$$$ everyone is chasing it and the ones who are not successful at attaining it and want it , criticize those that are showing signs of being successful and attaining wealth.
  22. Anonymous Member

    Oh man you so busted me and got my number! Shit! You see right through my ploys!!!!!
  23. Sneak Moderator

    There is a difference between 'being successful' and 'conning people out of their money.'
  24. Anonymous Member

    If we start to distinguish "con", we might start to include many so called legit businesses and games that make up our society.

    Selling addictive foods and drinks e.g junk food, coffee, and of course cigarettes, pornography, big box stores selling people more in bulk than they need, having to watch car and phone advertisements in movie theatres after we have paid $15 admission, hidden charges in phone and cable TV bills, students buying expensive educations for jobs that do not exist and leaving them with hefty student loans for years, the list goes on.

    You can cherry pick what you call a "con" and what you do not call a "con" in this conversation, , I just will not buy into it.
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  25. Anonymous Member

    Narconon is successful at conning people out of their money.

    Scientology and Miscavige are successful at conning people out of their money.
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  26. Anonymous Member

    Yes, we should all join the Sea Org and make a real difference.
  27. Anonymous Member


    Take Narconon Georgia, for example. Misrepresentation. Narconon Georgia misrepresented itself as an INPATIENT, SUPERVISED facility. It charged $30,000 for INPATIENT, SUPERVISED care. It told these parents that their children would be SUPERVISED by TRAINED staff.

    TRUTH: They were NEVER licensed as an INPATIENT facility. Their staff was NOT TRAINED PROPERLY. They DID NOT supervise appropriately. THEY DID NOT follow the STANDARDS OF CARE. This is FRAUD, MISREPRESENTATION and the generally recognized definition of CON.

    tr.v. conned, con┬Ěning, cons
    To swindle (a victim) by first winning his or her confidence; dupe.

    This is a swindle. First, gain confidence by promising to take care of someone's loved one. Promise to supervise. Promise to provide quality counseling and addiction treatment. GET THE MONEY UPFRONT.

    Then, they provide substandard care with untrained (cheap) counsellors. No medical supervision, even though medical treatments are given (sauna, vitamins) and existing medical treatments withheld (pharmaceuticals) to medically fragile individuals; i.e. people who have screwed up their livers. This, my friends, is FRAUD.

    And they won't give the money back. And then they deny, deny, deny.

    And where does the money go that they are NOT spending on quality care? GUESS. David Miscavige and the Cult of Scientology. The top of the pyramid. This is swindle, fraud, con, whatever you want to call it.
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  28. Anonymous Member

    Porn is not a con. Just ask around.
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  29. Anonymous Member

    Narconon is a Killing Machine

    There are 13,000 rehabs in the USA which average 12 deaths per year from all causes, overdose, suicide etc..

    Yet in a 9 month period Narconon killed 3 people!
  30. Anonymous Member

    Well, Necronon/NarCONon is a CON because it claims to deliver one thing and delivers another. I believe that even in your precious Scientology - Miscavige cult, this is referred to as a "rip-off".
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  31. Anonymous Member

    Yep, and I'd say $30,000 is a lot to be conned out of. That's a lot of money in my book. And conning it out of desperate families? That is just wrong. Wrong. Even if the damn program wasn't medically unsound and dangerous, it's STILL wrong because these families ARE NOT TOLD THE TRUTH before they plunk down their hard-earned cash. And when they discover the truth, THERE ARE NO REFUNDS. And now these people don't have money for a second rehab.

    Narconon CAUSES suffering families to suffer even more, all in the name of sending money uplines to the dying organization of Scientology and a megalomaniacal sociopath David Miscavige.

    It is WRONG and it is a CON and they are FRAUDS.
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  32. Anonymous Member

    Money grubbing casinos and pornography can be addictive, make sellers billions , and have negative consequences for the consumers/participants.

    Selling something ( legally ) that can be addictive to so many, make sellers very rich, and leave other's in very bad shape qualifies as a "con" in my books.
  33. Sneak Moderator

    Nah, that's just poor business conduct.
  34. Anonymous Member

    Using addiction to sell is deceit IMO , not poor business conduct. It is not a stretch to call many things a con. If you look up customer comments and reviews, it is not hard to find people saying they felt conned, used, or victimized by some of these.
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  35. Anonymous Member

    Narconon is a Killing Machine

    There are 13,000 rehabs in the USA which average 12 deaths per year from all causes, overdose, suicide etc..

    Yet in a 9 month period Narconon killed 3 people!
  36. Anonymous Member

    Yep, and Scientology gets money from that, too-- look up your compadre, Oliver Schaper
  37. Sneak Moderator

    I'll have to disagree. If the producers aren't lying about their product or not upholding their end of the bargain, it's not a con. Addiction isn't the same across the board, either. What one person could become immediately addicted to, another may not.
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  38. Anonymous Member

    Yeh I agree, Scientology is to blame for all the world's problems.
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  39. Anonymous Member

    They, producers or porn and casinos do not explicitly disclose the risks up front, nor do any screening to protect people who might be vulnerable and susceptible to being harmed by their products. They just let people fall the wayside.

    And like you said, I will take it to also mean, one high risk person could die while seeking or receiving Narconon treatment (whatever that is), another may not. Sometimes when the indians dance it rains. Hang out with at risk people and there are going to deaths.
  40. Sneak Moderator

    Again, going to have to disagree with you. There's a difference between using a casino and handing over a family member at great expense to be cared for, only for said member to die due to negligence.
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