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President of Scientology Narconon rehab named in investigation of anti-vaccination doctors

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  1. President of Scientology Narconon Melbourne drug rehabilitation centre named in investigation of secret cell of anti-vaccination doctors.

    VIDEO AT LINK: Melbourne doctor boasts about helping anti-vaxxers

    Herald Sun: Secret Melbourne cell of anti-vaxxer doctors under investigation

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/se...k=29f3629ed38003b37da146f333b7c069-1503527675

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    GRANT McARTHUR, HEALTH EDITOR, Herald Sun

    August 23, 2017 5:15am

    AT least three Melbourne GPs are being investigated amid claims an underground network of anti-vaccination doctors is secretly helping families duck compulsory immunisations.

    The probe comes as an explosive video has emerged of one rebel anti-vaccination doctor and a colleague boasting of helping 600 Melbourne families to avoid immunisations.

    Victoria’s Health Department and the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency are examining allegations raised about the Melbourne general practitioners who, it is claimed, are offering their services to families opposed to vaccinations.
    The GPs include Mitcham’s Dr John Piesse, who spoke out against “no jab no play” regulations relating to childcare, and “no jab no pay” regulations relating to family assistance payments, at a Hawthorn screening of controversial film Vaxxed on August 3.

    Dr Piesse told the gathering: “I am a doctor who has been working hard for 18 months to try and help parents get exemption from ‘vaccinated pain for vaccinated play’, with mixed success.

    “There are a few loops and hoops, but any doctor who wants to learn about it could contact some of the people in the AVN (Australian Vaccination-skeptics Network) and they could contact the doctor and explain what has to be done,” he said.


    \In a video filmed at the Hawthorn screening, which has been posted on an anti-vaccination Facebook account, Dr Piesse says that while it is easier for doctors to get around rules relating to “no jab no play” than those relating to “no jab no pay”, both can be sidestepped.

    “I want you to know it is possible to get the exemption,” Dr Piesse told the crowd.

    “So there is hope.”

    Dr Piesse told the crowd: “You need a doctor’s letter of contrary indication in the right form, provided the doctor has got the qualifications required for ‘no vax no pay’, or is a registered medical practitioner for ‘no vax no play’.

    “I was told I didn’t have the (necessary) qualifications, but we managed to extract from them (the Health Department) in writing that, yes, I do have the qualifications,” he said.
    “Now they want to know my reasons — I don’t have to give reasons.

    “Reason is not required. In fact, it is a good idea not to, because it is only going to attract a lot of arguments, to-ing and fro-ing, questions, and anxiety for the doctor. But so what?”

    It is believed the Health Department has now formally notified AHPRA about at least three doctors at inner and eastern suburban practices.

    But AHPRA is under fire for taking more than a year to investigate Dr Piesse, who was referred to it by the Health Department in August 2016 after he applied for immunisation exemptions for patients on the grounds that the shots would damage their health.

    At the Hawthorn film screening, Dr Piesse’s colleague from the Natural Healing Centre in Mitcham, naturopathic physician Nerida James, also addressed a panel that included US anti-jab radicals Polly Tommey and Suzanne Humphries.

    “I have a natural healing centre where Dr Piesse works ... We can support you and we have been supporting about 600 families, thanks to Dr John Piesse,” Dr James said.

    Dr James is president of the Church of Scientology’s Melbourne Narconon drug rehabilitation centre.

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  2. Aussie's are mostly aware K00ks like Polly Tommey and Suzanne Humphries are to be ignored. So much so, Polly Tommey and Suzanne Humphries face a 3 year ban after being refused entry because they lied on the visa applications as to why they wanted entry
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/in...a/news-story/e1a00e0af748d115a57b5eaae5d5c804

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/in...a/news-story/e1a00e0af748d115a57b5eaae5d5c804

    It's no surprise that the anti vax shrills are tied to scientology. Neither get much of a sounding board here, simply because they deal in lies and dis-information
  3. Secret network of 'anti-vaxxer doctors' includes President of Scientology Narconon rehab.

    Daily Mail - Revealed: Secret underground network of 'anti-vaxxer doctors helping HUNDREDS of families dodge compulsory
    immunisations'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4817788/Secret-underground-network-anti-vaxxer-doctors.html

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    Revealed: Secret underground network of 'anti-vaxxer doctors helping HUNDREDS of families dodge compulsory immunisations'

    At least three Melbourne GPs are being investigated by health authorities

    They include Dr John Piesse, who works at Mitcham's Natural Healing Centre

    He was filmed saying families he could help them get exemption from vaccinations

    By KHALEDA RAHMAN FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA

    PUBLISHED: 22:47 BST, 23 August 2017 | UPDATED: 03:26 BST, 24 August 2017

    'I want you to know it is possible to get the exemption so there is hope,' he told the crowd.

    He explained that they needed a doctor's letter of 'contrary indication' – provided the GP has the qualifications required for 'no vax no play' or is a registered medical practitioner for 'no vax no play.'

    Dr Piesse said he had been told he didn't have the necessary qualifications – but he managed to get in writing from the Health Department that he did.

    Naturapathic physician Nerida James – who is Dr Piesse's colleague from the Natural Healing Centre and president of the Church of Scientology's Melbourne Narconon drug rehabilitation centre – also spoke at the screening on August 3.

    She told attendees that they could help them like they have helped about 600 families.

    'We can support you. We have been supporting about 600 families thanks to Dr John Piesse,' she said.

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  4. DeathHamster Member

    http://dilutedthinking.com/avn_vaxxed2017hawthorn.php
  5. Quentinanon Member

    I think the anti-vax attitude of the scientology crime syndicate originates in paranoia that the companies that manufacture vaccines are adding psych drugs or nefarious substances to the vaccine. "It's a conspiracy!"
  6. The Internet Member

    I always wondered if Hubbard wanted to drive down demand for medical care for his staff simply because he was cheap and didn't want to be on the hook for the cost of it. Plus doctors are nosey and ask questions.
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  7. Anti-Vaxxer Dr. John Piesse practiced at the Scientology Narconon rehab Natural Healing Center / Get Off Drugs Naturally in 2013 and perhaps later.

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  8. Quentinanon Member

    Nerida James is a body thetan/xenu wacko.
    'Nuff said.
  9. The Internet Member

    Dr. John Piesse is the only legit doctor involved. He probably makes it possible for the scammers to bill insurance and consequently he probably makes good money there. It would be nice if the medical board would tell him to gtfo of that quacky place.
  10. Melbourne GP Dr. John Piesse accused of helping parents avoid vaccinations reprimanded 13 years ago.

    The Guardian: Melbourne GP Dr. John Piesse accused of helping parents avoid vaccinations reprimanded 13 years ago

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/26/melbourne-gp-accused-of-helping-parents-avoid-vaccinations-reprimanded-13-years-ago

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    Medical Practitioners Board of Victoria ordered Dr John Piesse be counselled in 2004 for failing to ‘make appropriate investigations of patient symptoms’

    A Melbourne doctor under investigation for helping parents evade compulsory vaccinations was reprimanded a decade ago for failing to properly treat patients with potentially life-threatening illnesses like cancer and depression.

    [SNIP]

    By Friday the Medical Board of Australia told Piesse that it intended to revoke his medical registration. Piesse, a supporter of alternative medicine, has a right-of-reply before that occurs, including an opportunity to outline why his license should not be revoked. The time period usually allowed for a reply is one week.

    But a report uncovered by Guardian Australia shows that concerns about Piesse were raised as far back as 2001, when Medicare Australia reported him because he charged Medicare for long and prolonged consultations, and because he made an abnormally high number of pathology requests during the year 2000. He rendered 2,137 services to 707 patients at a total Medicare benefit of $87,570 that year.

    In July 2003, a professional review committee investigating the allegations found Piesse’s conduct during 2000 “caused a significant threat to the life or health of his patients”.

    “It was concerned that Dr Piesse failed to make appropriate investigations of patient symptoms of possibly serious conditions such as cancer, meningitis, depression, and anaemia,” a report from the professional services review scheme said.

    The committee also found Piesse administered multiple vitamin B doses from one vial.
    This information was referred to the Medical Practitioners Board of Victoria, which in August 2004 ordered that Piesse be reprimanded, counselled, repay Medicare benefits totalling $18,179, and be disqualified for 18 months from providing certain GP services to patients.

    In 2007, the Medical Board of Australia ordered Piesse provide a statutory declaration every three months “to confirm that he has not facilitated the administration of intravenous herbal infusions, genome therapies, and other therapies brought into the country by patients, unless the therapies have been specifically approved by the Therapeutic Goods Administration”.

    Piesse later admitted that he had failed to provide these statutory declarations, telling the board: “I acknowledge that I did not initially provide statutory declarations … The reason for the delay in initially providing the statutory declarations was that I was very disturbed by the restriction and implications of this determination in denying safe, beneficial treatment for my patients.”

    He was ordered to provide the statutory declarations in future and to undertake further education in critical thinking and research.

    [SNIP]


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  11. Anti-vax GP Dr John Piesse has recently been involved with Scientology’s Narconon drug rehab program. Claims his critical thinking skills are "above average."

    Australian Doctor: Anti-vax GP says his critical thinking skills are 'above average'

    NOTE: Access to articles on the Australian Doctor website normally requires registration, which is limited to "health practitioners registered to practice in Australia." One can access this article, however, by going to the Tweet linked below and then clicking on the link to the article in the tweet. That bypasses the registration requirement.

    https://twitter.com/australiandr/status/901034168095711233

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    Anti-vax GP says his critical thinking skills are 'above average'

    Geir O'Rourke | 25 August, 2017 | 2 comments

    A GP who was filmed bragging about helping hundreds of children dodge vaccinations refused to complete an RACGP module on critical thinking because he believed he had “above average skills in this respect”.

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    But the GP has been battling medical authorities for decades.

    As early as 1985, he accused the Victorian Government of running a “nameless departmental organisation” he believed was dedicated to “destroying the freedom of Victorians to receive and practise homeopathy".

    "Such bureaucratic nonsense directed at alternative therapies will always tend to occur when individuals are given power to regulate therapeutic substances against which they hold personal prejudices and about whom they are fundamentally ignorant," he told a government inquiry.

    Documents from a Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal in 2011 show Dr Piesse also spent four years defying an order to complete the RACGP’s Critical Thinking and Research module.

    Dr Piesse was ordered to do the training by the Medical Practitioners Board of Victoria after being caught giving patients unapproved intravenous herbal infusions and so-called genome therapies.

    But he said he was too sick and too busy to do the college module, which normally takes about 48 hours to complete. He added he had no need of critical thinking education anyway.
    “Given that I consider that I have above-average skills in this respect — please correct me if the board has reason to believe otherwise — I have not yet undertaken further education in this area of knowledge,” he said.

    “However, when time and energy permits, and a suitable source of training becomes available, I would be only too pleased to partake such a training programme.”
    As a result of his noncompliance, he was reprimanded and ordered to make a statutory declaration promising not to administer any more unapproved remedies.

    More recently, Dr Piesse has been involved with the Church of Scientology’s 'Narconon' drug rehab program.

    In a 2013 letter of endorsement posted to the program’s website, Dr Piesse wrote he had “witnessed some remarkable results”.

    "To any of those who would question the results and validity of the full Narconon Program, I invite them to go and see for themselves and make an educated analysis,” he wrote.

    [SNIP]

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    THE TWEET FOR REFERENCE:

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  12. Holy fuck. Those teefs! So gross.
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  13. Quentinanon Member

    Like many Ronbots, he smokes heavily and doesn't take care of his teeth. But, you have to concede that he is "on source":

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  14. DeathHamster Member

    Idiot says what?
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  15. Anti-vaxxers raise thousands for rogue Melbourne doctor

    Herald Sun: Anti-vaxxers raise thousands for rogue Melbourne doctor

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...r/news-story/80434f080a5cf4a78a7822a7db1f71d9

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    THE anti-vaxxer community has rallied around a rogue Melbourne doctor who is under investigation for allegedly helping families avoid compulsory vaccinations, raising more than $13,500 in less than 24 hours.

    A fundraising page has been set up to raise $100,000 for Mitcham GP Dr John Piesse whose medical registration is about to be suspended amid concerns for patient safety.

    The Mitcham Natural Healing Centre where Dr Piesse works is understood to be responsible for the page.

    The page claimed Dr Piesse was a “doctor of the people”, was “supportive and appreciative” of the money being donated to him and would struggle to raise the money himself.

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  16. Quentinanon Member

    No surprise an "independent" scienazi would support a scientology front group or an anti-vaccination doctor.
  17. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...enied-entry-to-australia-20170831-gy7u82.html


    Good riddance to bad rubbish I say
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  18. Quentinanon Member

    One less loon on the loose = good thing.
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  19. The Internet Member

    I rage more at anti-vax doctors than others. Because doctors go to school for over a decade. They know better. Nobody teaches them anti-vax. It doesn't come up on their Board exams. They have to go out of their way to jump on that boat. So they knowingly and willfully lie to the public.

    Doctors are human and can get suckered into cults which distort their sense of reality. Still they have a duty to separate their personal opinions from what they know the scientific evidence says.

    In the US state boards of medicine used to punish doctors who lied to the public. But laws were passed that protect rogue doctors so long as they can point to a "school of thought" or a group of other doctors in support of their views. What is true for a few of you is true, I guess.

    What is the motivation to lie to the public like this? Well I see a lot of ego. Some people get a buzz from saying that they know more than the so-called experts. Hubbard comes to mind. So does Trump. The second motivation is usually money. Anti-vax doctors sell a lot of fucking vitamins. Plus they cater to a community that's generally wealthier and willing to pay out of pocket. In the US anti-vax tribes include a lot of celebrities, so there's that ego buzz as well.
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  20. Conscience free people don't lie, they just create whatever reality they think is in their best interest.

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