Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by oooo000, Feb 28, 2021.

  1. oooo000 Member

    The Abolition of Work and the Rise of the Ludic

    "The ludic life is totally incompatible with existing reality. So much the worse for “reality,” the gravity hole that sucks the vitality from the little in life that still distinguishes it from mere survival. Curiously — or maybe not — all the old ideologies are conservative because they believe in work. Some of them, like Marxism and most brands of anarchism, believe in work all the more fiercely because they believe in so little else.
    Liberals say we should end employment discrimination. I say we should end employment. Conservatives support right-to-work laws. Following Karl Marx’s wayward son-in-law Paul Lafargue I support the right to be lazy. Leftists favor full employment. Like the surrealists — except that I’m not kidding — I favor full unemployment. Trotskyists agitate for permanent revolution. I agitate for permanent revelry. But if all the ideologues (as they do) advocate work — and not only because they plan to make other people do theirs — they are strangely reluctant to say so. They will carry on endlessly about wages, hours, working conditions, exploitation, productivity, profitability. They’ll gladly talk about anything but work itself. These experts who offer to do our thinking for us rarely share their conclusions about work, for all its saliency in the lives of all of us. Among themselves they quibble over the details. Unions and management agree that we ought to sell the time of our lives in exchange for survival, although they haggle over the price. Marxists think we should be bossed by bureaucrats. Libertarians think we should be bossed by businessmen. Feminists don’t care which form bossing takes so long as the bosses are women. Clearly these ideology-mongers have serious differences over how to divvy up the spoils of power. Just as clearly, none of them have any objection to power as such and all of them want to keep us working." — Bob Black, "The Abolition of Work" (

    "Workers of the World... Relax!"

  2. oooo000 Member

    If you like to work, post-work clearly isn't for you. But most people, and the planet itself, suffer from the forced prostitution of our time on earth. Post-work is also post-money; UBI is a bridge to a society where everything is free. Please look it up before getting back to me. Or I can provide some links here if you'd like.
  3. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    Ah. The Spammer link finally appears. You really worked for it.
  4. oooo000 Member

    Not a spammer link.
  5. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    It’s to a business that sells student papers
  6. oooo000 Member

    No, it's free. Lots of prominent academics there. A great source for unfiltered, post-work research.
  7. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    Ok, you don’t get banned.
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  9. oooo000 Member

    Post-work is also post-money.

    UBI ( can serve as a bridge to a post-work, post-money — a post-scarcity — society (

    If you didn't know how the money system works, you will after you see this one:

    97% Owned: The Cruel Truth Behind Money Credit and Financial Crisis | ENDEVR Documentary

    For more depth, here's The Bank of England's "Money Creation in the Modern Economy."
  10. oooo000 Member

    Generation: Fuck You by Any Means Necessary Collective.

    "Forced labor sucks. Under capitalism all labor is forced labor, because if one chooses not to pay (Rent, groceries, medicine) they send men with guns to us, sometimes these men put us in cages, sometimes they give us fines we will never be able to afford, sometimes these men simply kill us."
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