Portland Ideal Morgue Opening - may 11 2013

Discussion in 'USA - West Coast' started by Charles Carmichael, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. Anonymous Member

    It looks like a perfect match to me.
  2. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientologist John Allender Being a Thug

    Published by Mark Bunker on May 14, 2013

    Powerful OT8 John Allender tried everything he could think of to try to prevent me from shooting video of Scientology's tiny dictator Slappy Miscavige at the opening of Portland's Ideal Org including lying to the police. When all else failed, he attempted to push past me to grab my camera which could have caused it to fall from a great height and be destroyed.
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  3. wolfbane Member

    Maybe it's just that the coloring seems off.
  4. Horseradish Member

    So true, Samki.

    DM's appearance is starting to remind me of Nixon. All those coarse features.
  5. RightOn Member

    so did WBM press charges?
    Wonder what Johnnyboy's defense would have been?
    John Allender : " I had to push him around and try to take his camera, he is screwing up my eternity and we are here to clear the plane damn it!"
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  6. The Wrong Guy Member

    Bunker is looking into further fallout from his trip to Portland. He was telling us that there still may be consequences for the apartment dwellers who helped him do his filming, and for the parking attendant who was duped into helping out Scientology’s intimidation squad. Nice guy, that Allender.

    Bunker has posted additional videos from Portland to his channel this morning, including David Miscavige speaking (with poor audio), an appearance by Bunker on the Lars Larson radio show, an appearance on the Terry Boyd radio show, and a lengthy and weird conversation with a woman outside the Ideal Org itself.

    We had no idea that an Ideal Org opening could be so entertaining. So where’s the next one?

    We checked Scientology’s website, and it lists five cities that will soon host Ideal Orgs. Does anyone have an idea which might be first?

    Columbus, Ohio (Go, ‘Lumbus!)
    Birmingham, England (And here’s the video describing this 33-million-pound project.)
    Budapest, Hungary
    Copenhagen, Denmark (Isn’t there already an Advanced Org there?)
    Manchester, England
    Montreal, Canada (Hey, that’s David Love country!)

    More at
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  7. The Wrong Guy Member

    Mark Bunker on the Lars Larson Show

    Published by Mark Bunker on May 15, 2013

    I appeared on the Portland area Lars Larson Show to speak about Scientology after the opening of their new Ideal Org.

    Lars liked the segment so much he replayed it that night on his nationally syndicated broadcast.

    More videos at
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  8. Anonymous Member

    Gizmodo carried the story, which is awesome. Here is my favorite comment so far
    Show them some click love
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  9. The Wrong Guy Member

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  10. wolfbane Member

    "Mark Bunker. You're full of prunes. PRUNES. Prunes Dude."

    I lol'd.
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  11. RightOn Member

    hopefully many seeds of doubt were planted in Gwen.
    "The Prune Rundown"
    the protestors in Portland should dress as prunes at every protest! LOL!
    The Portland Prunes!
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  12. RightOn Member

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  13. Anonymous Member

    Oh the humanity.
  14. Quentinanon Member

    Gwen Barnard is a good example of the cognitive distortions that scientologists operate on. "It's your intention to harass."
    Mind reading, jumping to conclusions and negative interpretation. In fact, Bunker was just recording on public property and Barnard approached him and made false accusations. She is the one harassing.
    As long as scientologists believe that they can read minds and speculate based on Hubbard dogma, they will have problems getting along with the world outside of their cult.
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  15. McLOVIN_1982 Member

    hahaha! Prune Tech! Lulz....
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  16. Wasn't there some Hubbard wrote about the intent of the Scientology-launched lawsuit being not to win, but to harass… ? Interesting, the choice of verbiage.
  17. Anonymous Member

    Birmingham is due to open in November. Manchester would be a long time after that.
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  18. anon walker Moderator

    "...I don't have the video of the confrontation, but..."

    'Nuff said.
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  19. anonfly Member

    When I
    raid in Montreal, i "clearly" understand that the money they got is not enough to buy a building. Last month, there was a permit in their window allowing them to do some renovations....Let's see what kind of party they will have. But for sure i'll be ther...;)
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  20. billybob Member

    OK, I know I am beating a dead horse at this point, but I did do some more analysis of these photos, so I'll jut put them up here for posterity.

    This is from the upper left corner of the "huge crowd". I highlighted some copy-pasted balloons in the Portland Ribbon Pull picture:
    ^ This is the photo that Scientology claims was not altered in any way!

    Earlier in the thread someone mentioned looking for an easily identifiable individual who could be used to compare the two photos of the ribbon cutting. Well, I think I found a good one, this elderly lady in the red shirt with white, poofy hair:

    Here she is in the front view photo, where she is near the left side:

    And here in that now infamous side view, where all of the sudden a huge crowd appears to her left.

    So, if you count the number of people standing to the left of Granny Red Shirt in the first photo, then look at the second photo, it is clear something is fishy.
    That many people did not suddenly appear out of thin air!
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  21. RightOn Member

    ^ also the lady to the right of them with the champagne colored shirt and the redish hair
    plus the girl to the left of her with the black shirt and the long wavy dirty blonde hair, and the heavy lady in the teal green shirt with the short brown hair. All thse people are shown i nthe center and on the side.
    AND the older lady in the very dark purple shirt withe short blonde hair appears in both places too.
    AND the other lady with the short brown hair with sleeveless black dress too
    I think if you look closer you will notice more people who are in the center are also on the right.
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  22. billybob Member

    Compare the above, both of which were published by COS, to this still from Jefferson Hawkins video:
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  23. billybob Member

    OKAY just one more observation...

    Here is the real "ribbon pull" moment broken down, to show that the balloons and confetti in the official COS photographs were faked.

    Notice the confetti cannon fires off while the balloons are still behind the screen:

    Then the confetti begins to settle and drift off toward the road, as the balloons have yet to make it past the trees:

    Finally we see the confetti almost dispersed before the first balloons reach the 3rd story:

    Yet the Ideal Org photo shows tons of confetti high in the air, while the balloons are also soaring far above the idle org off into the skyline. FAKE!
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  24. Anonymous Member

    And why did the City of Portland allow them to launch dozens of plastic balloons to eventually wind up as pollution in Portland ... or the Pacific
  25. RightOn Member

    I agree.
    They are polluting the neighborhood with their tech and the skies. I wonder if the city had to use tax dollars to clean up all that confetti?
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  26. OK, now what?
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  27. ^FAKE post!
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  28. Chipshotz Member

    She's got the Tom Cruise and George Baillie laugh down perfect.
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  29. Quentinanon Member

    Also, notice that in the upper photo, there is confetti in the air to granny's front left, but to the right of the podium. In the second photo, the only confetti to the right of the podium is to her extreme right. It seems there are multiple faked aspects of these cofs photos. Everything about scientology is loaded with lies.

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  30. Quentinanon Member

    Hubbard said that laughter is rejection, which is contrary to the scientific research done on laughter. So, "on-source" scientologists learn to laugh contemptuously. The scienolaugh has become stereotypical.
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  31. The Wrong Guy Member

    Here's an article by Wendy Culverwell, the Real Estate Daily editor of the Portland Business Journal.

    Scientologists positioned for growth - Portland Business Journal

    The Church dedicated its new Portland Scientology Ideal Organization at the Sherlock building, 320 S.W. Oak St., an historic Portland office it purchased for $6.4 million in 2010 and spent millions renovating from top to bottom.


    The opening festivities briefly attracted controversy over reports that a photo of the opening day crowd, supplied to the media by the church, had been doctored to show more people than actually attended. Several outlets reported the image had been altered; The Business Journal removed it from a sideshow of church-provided images of the rehabilitation pending resolution of the issue.
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  32. OTeleventy Member

    Do you think "sideshow" was inadvertent? LOL.
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  33. Chipshotz Member

    Thanks. I wondered if there is a laugh-tech course.
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  34. Asheera Member

    There is a particular process that might interest you (I swear I didn’t make this up):


    Reference: 'The Creation of Human Ability,

    "R2-26: Remedy of Laughter"

    Use of Process: For preclears who are particularly serious,

    Information: The earliest known psychotherapy consisted of getting a patient to laugh. Laughter is rejection. A preclear being continually influenced upon by the physical universe at length may find it difficult to reject anything. Getting him to reject something could be made an auditing goal. The best manifestation of this is laughter. Laughter includes both surprise and rejection. The individual is surprised into rejecting. In order to laugh, he must have laid aside some of his ability to predict. An individual who is serious has laid aside so much of his ability to predict that he now cannot be surprised into rejection.

    Procedure: In this process, only two steps are employed to remedy laughter.

    Step 1

    The first command is: "Be completely certain that the wall is there."

    When the preclear has become with considerable conversation completely certain that the wall is there, touching it, pushing against it, and so forth, the auditor then says, "Sit down, take this (your) watch," "Now predict that the wall will be there ten seconds from now," "Have you done so?" ''All right, wait ten seconds by your watch."

    When this is done: "Is the wall still there?"

    And when the preclear has answered, "Now make absolutely certain the wall is there" and the preclear does so by touching it, pushing al it, kicking it.

    "Now make very sure that the wall is there." Am I when the preclear very vigorously has done so: "Now predict that it will be there in ten seconds."

    And when the preclear has done so, the remainder of the above commands are given and this is repealed over and over. When the preclear has experienced considerable relief and is absolutely sure he can predict that all parts of the room will be there, not only in ten seconds, but in an hour - although no such timing is used, and only ten seconds of time is employed - the second part of the process is begun.

    Step 2

    The auditor commands the preclear: "Start laughing."

    And no matter what the preclear says thereafter; or what arguments he advances, or how many things he asks about, or how many reasons he wants or gives, the auditor merely says (adding words that urge the preclear), "Start laughing."

    And when the preclear at length docs so, no matter how half heartedly,
    "Keep on laughing."

    The two commands which are used in addition to words necessary to urge the preclear without giving the preclear any reason whatsoever are, "Start laughing" and "Keep on laughing."

    This process is then done until the preclear can actually enjoy a laugh without any reason whatsoever, without believing that laughing without reason is insane, without feeling self-conscious about laughing, and without needing any boost from the auditor.

    Notes on Running: In the second part of the process, the auditor need take no pains to agree with the preclear by laughing. The need to chuckle or smile nor need he even particularly act seriously, his laughter is not needed or used in the process.
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  35. Quentinanon Member

    Technical note: R2-26 precedes R2-45.
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  37. BlackRob Member

    Footage of the opening:

    (Provided by the CoS)
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  38. Dear Marty,

    I am NOT working for OSA and tried to give them press even though i knew I was writing lies! I really thought it was shooped!! Seriously!

    ML, Mike Rinder
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  39. Anonymous Member

    Ummm, anyone else noticing that the video pretty much shows that the opening pic WASN'T shooped? Rinder was the one who "broke" the story, right?

    First getting duped by Culkin and now this. LMAO!
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  40. Most everyone wanted to believe that Scientology photoshopped people onto the right side. They just started saying it was obvious they had etc. and people responded yah it's so obvious. It became a mass delusion.
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