PLEASE READ - Anonymous, WhyWeProtest, and Wikileaks

Ogsonofgroo · Dec 13, 2010

Re: PLEASE READ - Anonymous, WhyWeProtest, and Wikileaks

veravendetter;1374896 said:

Dude, if it wasn't 1am, I would probably bite, but I'm going abridged. You accept that anons can handle more than one project (one of the concerns of some anons who have problems with WL presence here). You also kinda accepted my point on tolerating elements who you feel no affinity with, regarding the zoners/indies. So there's only the image of chanology issue left. I can fully understand admins of the site needing to address this issue, but for individual fags I don't see why it matters one bit.
I believe I have addressed your questions and would normally leave it there, but as your points are so heavily biased by your opinion on WL/JA, and for your lame-arse RAEP comments, I must call you 'retard', and bid you adieu.

Thank you for getting to the pint and saving other's the time...

Also, to poster commented on, read more, find an allience that is comfy fer ya, go there and and and rock on on an' on!

As pointed out ad nausea~ 'We' (speaking for no one in particular, or most who choose to hang around from time to time) here, are not going to stand being portrayed as one dimensional/one cause, basement dwellers with nothing better to do than fuck up people's spaces for what-ever cause. A bit of evening research endeavourings should get that straight.

Cats, giant herds, mangy and fluffy alike, bounding around, some aimlessly, some chasing game. Others ackting liek dogs licking their nuts in the corner (because they can).
Oh look, another wave of crap! *grabs suf\rf board*

Rides up! Rides up!

Oh, hai OSA>

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/5751/achievementweirdo.jpg

veravendetter · Dec 13, 2010

Re: PLEASE READ - Anonymous, WhyWeProtest, and Wikileaks

Ogsonofgroo;1374912 said:

Thank you for getting to the pint and saving other's the time...

Also, to poster commented on, read more, find an allience that is comfy fer ya, go there and and and rock on on an' on!

As pointed out ad nausea~ 'We' (speaking for no one in particular, or most who choose to hang around from time to time) here, are not going to stand being portrayed as one dimensional/one cause, basement dwellers with nothing better to do than fuck up people's spaces for what-ever cause. A bit of evening research endeavourings should get that straight.

Cats, giant herds, mangy and fluffy alike, bounding around, some aimlessly, some chasing game. Others ackting liek dogs licking their nuts in the corner (because they can).
Oh look, another wave of crap! *grabs suf\rf board*

Rides up! Rides up!

Oh, hai OSA>

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/5751/achievementweirdo.jpg

thnks Ogsonofgroo. Also, lol at coincidental postin of my OC (jpg.)

ChildeRoland · Dec 13, 2010

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Are diplomatic cables classified?

Yes. Not "Top Secret", but at least "Confidential." Those who gave the documents to Wikileaks committed a crime. So to cry "freedom of speech/press!" when the government acts against a crime is sort of a moot point.

Dude, if it wasn't 1am, I would probably bite, but I'm going abridged. You accept that anons can handle more than one project (one of the concerns of some anons who have problems with WL presence here). You also kinda accepted my point on tolerating elements who you feel no affinity with, regarding the zoners/indies. So there's only the image of chanology issue left. I can fully understand admins of the site needing to address this issue, but for individual fags I don't see why it matters one bit.
I believe I have addressed your questions and would normally leave it there, but as your points are so heavily biased by your opinion on WL/JA, and for your lame-arse RAEP comments, I must call you 'retard', and bid you adieu.

You assume my hearing you answer my questions (hypothetically stated to make a point) was the whole reason I spoke up. And those who support WL need to face up to the fact that they are whoring out their own ideal of a government without secrets (ludicrous to begin with) in order to protect their founder from sexual assault charges. Lame? Fine. But if Anonymous keeps drawing such negative attention and make our voice against the cult that much weaker, there will be an influx of WL supporters and an exodus of Chanology fags like me. There will be a further criminalization of Anonymous from within, and Scientology will win. I might delete my account on WWP and only keep tabs for Org Raid purposes. Kinda sucks as a newfag to leave so soon, but I am willing to live with that. I guess I just didn't take into account how fluid Anonymous is and how far Legion is willing to go... That's not me, and I guess I just need to jump ship or I'll just continue to be a nuisance.

veravendetter · Dec 13, 2010

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ChildeRoland;1374926 said:

Imma postin' from ma flip-fone. Check da biveo

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwH0sKSHXE8&feature=related]YouTube - Wah Wah Wah[/ame]

Anonymous · Dec 13, 2010

Re: PLEASE READ - Anonymous, WhyWeProtest, and Wikileaks

ChildeRoland;1374926 said:

Yes. Not "Top Secret", but at least "Confidential." Those who gave the documents to Wikileaks committed a crime. So to cry "freedom of speech/press!" when the government acts against a crime is sort of a moot point.

You assume my hearing you answer my questions (hypothetically stated to make a point) was the whole reason I spoke up. And those who support WL need to face up to the fact that they are whoring out their own ideal of a government without secrets (ludicrous to begin with) in order to protect their founder from sexual assault charges. Lame? Fine. But if Anonymous keeps drawing such negative attention and make our voice against the cult that much weaker, there will be an influx of WL supporters and an exodus of Chanology fags like me. There will be a further criminalization of Anonymous from within, and Scientology will win. I might delete my account on WWP and only keep tabs for Org Raid purposes. Kinda sucks as a newfag to leave so soon, but I am willing to live with that. I guess I just didn't take into account how fluid Anonymous is and how far Legion is willing to go... That's not me, and I guess I just need to jump ship or I'll just continue to be a nuisance.

I don't think you are well informed enough to be of any authority of the matter.

Anonymous · Dec 13, 2010

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Anonymous;1374952 said:

I don't think you are well informed enough to be of any authority of the matter.

Learning spell-check would be of benefit too....

Oh, to be young again!

lolololing in mah pantz

JohnnyRUClear · Dec 15, 2010

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Didn't want to post this as a new thread... and too lazy to search this whole thread to see if it's already been said... but...

WWP is now the #2 search result on google.com for "anonymous" (right behind wikipedia). #6 on Lycos.

Hi noobs!!

Anonymous · Dec 16, 2010

Re: PLEASE READ - Anonymous, WhyWeProtest, and Wikileaks

ChildeRoland;1374926 said:

Yes. Not "Top Secret", but at least "Confidential." Those who gave the documents to Wikileaks committed a crime. So to cry "freedom of speech/press!" when government acts against a crime is sort of a moot point.

Get a clue!
The government doesn't act against a crime.
Publishing leaks is not a crime.

Anonymous · Dec 16, 2010

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Anonymous;1377200 said:

Publishing leaks is not a crime.

That's why they have to make one up:

U.S. v. WikiLeaks: Can Assange be prosecuted? - U.S. news - WikiLeaks in Security - msnbc.com

Ersatz · Dec 16, 2010

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ChildeRoland;1374926 said:

Yes. Not "Top Secret", but at least "Confidential." Those who gave the documents to Wikileaks committed a crime. So to cry "freedom of speech/press!" when the government acts against a crime is sort of a moot point.

You assume my hearing you answer my questions (hypothetically stated to make a point) was the whole reason I spoke up. And those who support WL need to face up to the fact that they are whoring out their own ideal of a government without secrets (ludicrous to begin with) in order to protect their founder from sexual assault charges. Lame? Fine. But if Anonymous keeps drawing such negative attention and make our voice against the cult that much weaker, there will be an influx of WL supporters and an exodus of Chanology fags like me. There will be a further criminalization of Anonymous from within, and Scientology will win. I might delete my account on WWP and only keep tabs for Org Raid purposes. Kinda sucks as a newfag to leave so soon, but I am willing to live with that. I guess I just didn't take into account how fluid Anonymous is and how far Legion is willing to go... That's not me, and I guess I just need to jump ship or I'll just continue to be a nuisance.

There are many issues here about which anon cannot agree. Sometimes we choose to agree to disagree, or we ignore the posts and threads we don't agree with. Stick to the Scientology threads. Ignore the rest.

Stop worrying about the image of anon. As long as we choose to be anonymous, we will be identified with all that is attributed to anonymous, the good and the bad. This shit storm will blow over. The people that have been working closely with Chanology or keeping up with Chanology know who we are and what we do. Anyone else doesn't care or thinks we are terrorists.

Its kinda like life. Some people like you, some love you, some hate you, some get you, some don't. We'll just keep on keepin' on.

Or you could rage quit.

Anonymous · Dec 16, 2010

Re: PLEASE READ - Anonymous, WhyWeProtest, and Wikileaks

Anonymous;1377202 said:

That's why they have to make one up:

U.S. v. WikiLeaks: Can Assange be prosecuted? - U.S. news - WikiLeaks in Security - msnbc.com

These guys are completely clueless.
Paul Rosenzweig for example claims that

News organizations pride themselves on adding value to news — they analyze and provide context. WikiLeaks does none of that. It’s more like a telephone directory — just a compiler of information, not a discriminating purveyor — and it demeans real news organizations to make the comparison.

One look at wikileaks site, old or new, proves that this statement is factually wrong.
There ARE news articles published by WL staffers on the wikileaks website, which add additional analysis insight to the leaked data.

Rockyj · Dec 16, 2010

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Also for the good!

An anonymous donor dropped four silver coins into Salvation Army Red Kettles in the Springfield area recently. The Salvation Army is assessing the value of the one ounce coins. Right now, the website Silverperounce.com lists the price of silver as worth $28.52 per troy ounce (a troy ounce is slightly heavier than the system used to measure items in a grocery store). One coin says, "The Right to Privacy." Another coin says, "The Right to Counsel." A third coin pictures an American Eagle symbol with the words Engelhard one troy ounce 999+ fine silver. A coin that appears to be the exact same coin is selling on Ebay for $49.99.

Anonymous donor drops silver coins into Salvation Army Red Kettles - ky3.com

veravendetter · Dec 16, 2010

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Ersatz;1377208 said:

There are many issues here about which anon cannot agree. Sometimes we choose to agree to disagree, or we ignore the posts and threads we don't agree with. Stick to the Scientology threads. Ignore the rest.

Stop worrying about the image of anon. As long as we choose to be anonymous, we will be identified with all that is attributed to anonymous, the good and the bad. This shit storm will blow over. The people that have been working closely with Chanology or keeping up with Chanology know who we are and what we do. Anyone else doesn't care or thinks we are terrorists.

Its kinda like life. Some people like you, some love you, some hate you, some get you, some don't. We'll just keep on keepin' on.

Or you could rage quit.

MODS FTMFW!!!

Every mod who I've heard air an opinion since this dust-devil rolled in has been right on the fuckin money as far as I'm concerned. I didn't have a problem with them at all before, but recent events have proved to me that, what I consider the true spirit of anon is still running this joint. I feel relieved.

inb4 brown-nose

Sponge · Dec 16, 2010

Re: PLEASE READ - Anonymous, WhyWeProtest, and Wikileaks

Related:

BBC World Service:
Your questions to "Anonymous"
BBC - World Service - World Have Your Say: Your questions to "Anonymous"

Rockyj · Dec 16, 2010

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Anonymous;1377200 said:

Get a clue!
The government doesn't act against a crime.
Publishing leaks is not a crime.

In addition:

After this latest release a Pentagon official, who wished to remain anonymous due to the sensitive nature of the material involved, told the McClatchy newspaper group that even three months later the US military still had no evidence that people had died or been harmed because of information gleaned from Wikileaks documents.

BBC News - Has release of Wikileaks documents cost lives?

Rockyj · Dec 16, 2010

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Sponge;1377246 said:

Related:

BBC World Service:
Your questions to "Anonymous"
BBC - World Service - World Have Your Say: Your questions to "Anonymous"

Hmmm...is the cult in on some of the comments?

amommymous · Dec 16, 2010

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HAIL, Moralfags

Anonymous · Dec 16, 2010

Re: PLEASE READ - Anonymous, WhyWeProtest, and Wikileaks

amommymous;1377369 said:

HAIL, douchebags

AVE.

KittyKatSpanker · Dec 16, 2010

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Chanology is a Anti Church of Scientology activism movement ?

Rufus T Firefly;1369522 said:

There has been an unusual amount of traffic and new users in the last few days. This is undoubtedly due to media coverage of "Operation Payback" in support of WikiLeaks.

Whyweprotest.net is the number three Google result for "Anonymous" with the first two being Wikipedia articles. A number of news sources have connected the "Anonymous" that works against the Church of Scientology with the "Anonymous" that is attacking the websites of companies that have worked against WikiLeaks. There was even a link here from a New York Times article in connection with "Operation Payback," so it is only natural that some people end up here in response to what is an ongoing international news story. We welcome new users and wish you the best.

I'm making this post to clarify things to our new users, to passers-by and some established users who seem to be a bit misinformed.

What Anonymous is
Anonymous is simply a group of people who communicate using disposable identities, or not using any identity at all. "Anonymous" can refer to the millions of people who post on various websites without using their real identities, it can refer to any given subset of those people, or it can even refer to a single person.

What Anonymous is not
Anonymous is not a single cohesive group of people. No single person or group of people is representative of "Anonymous" as a whole. Anonymous has no official membership, and has no official guidelines and no officials. There is no controlling entity and no unifying principles. Not everyone who considers himself to be Anonymous is involved with everything "Anonymous" is said to be responsible for, and things that "Anonymous" is said to be responsible for do not represent the opinions or actions of every single person or any given person who considers himself to be a part of Anonymous.

What WhyWeProtest.net is
WhyWeProtest.net (WWP) is primarily the central hub for "Project Chanology." Project Chanology is the name for the anti-Scientology activism movement that includes elements of Anonymous and also includes former Scientology members and other long-time critics. Some of WWP's users consider themselves to be "Anonymous" some do not. WWP is not exclusively limited to Scientology. WWP also hosts discussion and activism on a number of other topics including the recent Iranian elections. There is a general sentiment among most WWP users strongly in favor of free expression and the free exchange of information.

What WhyWeProtest.net is not
WWP is not representative of "Anonymous" as a whole. "Anonymous" as a whole is not necessarily representative of Chanology or WWP. WWP is not the one and only home of Anonymous, it is a home for some people who consider themselves to be part of Anonymous.

WWP is NOT a staging ground for any sort of illegal activity against any party. WWP does not condone or promote any illegal activities. If you as a WWP user spot any promotion of illegal activities, such as denial of service attacks please use the report button to the left of the post so that the moderating staff can act. WWP will comply with any valid orders by law enforcement agencies, however to date we have never received any such orders.

Why WWP has a section for discussing WikiLeaks
A lot of WWP users hold very strong sentiments about the freedom of speech, freedom of expression and freedom of information. WikiLeaks is viewed as a beacon of freedom of information and actions against it are viewed as suppressing free expression of ideas. WikiLeaks has also hosted a number of internal Scientology documents.

This section is to be used for discussion of events surrounding WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, and it can be used to organize legal avenues to disseminate your opinion on the subject.

This section is NOT to be used to promote or organize any illegal activities. This, however does not mean that you cannot discuss when other people are using illegal activities.

Now please feel free to call me a leader-fag and whatnot now, but I think this needed to be clarified

Thanks,
Rufus

Edit, since some of you haven't bothered to read the above I'll say it in large annoying red font:

[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="6"]YOU WILL NOT FIND ANYONE HERE TO GIVE YOU DIRECTIONS TO "THE NEW WAR ROOM" YOU HAVE BEEN TROLLED[/SIZE][/COLOR]

Edit: For the word-averse:

Rufus T Firefly · Dec 16, 2010

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KittyKatSpanker;1377391 said:

Chanology is a Anti Church of Scientology activism movement ?

YouTube - L. Ron Hubbard: Attacks Against Scientology

If you can make sense of anything ElectroPaganAnon says you're way ahead of me.

anonymouskwisdg · Dec 16, 2010

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veravendetter;1377241 said:

MODS FTMFW!!!

Every mod who I've heard air an opinion since this dust-devil rolled in has been right on the fuckin money as far as I'm concerned. I didn't have a problem with them at all before, but recent events have proved to me that, what I consider the true spirit of anon is still running this joint. I feel relieved.

inb4 brown-nose

I completely agree, including about the brown-nosing

veravendetter · Dec 16, 2010

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Anonymous · Dec 16, 2010

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veravendetter;1377491 said:

I always wondered WTF happened to Micheal Jackson's nose....... now smerterfied!

JohnnyRUClear · Dec 16, 2010

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Rockyj;1377259 said:

In addition:

BBC News - Has release of Wikileaks documents cost lives?

Those comments are pathetic.

Anonymous · Dec 17, 2010

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JohnnyRUClear;1377894 said:

Those comments are pathetic.

Article is pretty much a dollop of donkey cum too imho. Expect more lazy shit 'journalism', easy as it never ends.

EmptyV · Dec 28, 2010

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JohnnyRUClear;1377894 said:

Those comments are pathetic.

The whole article is a bit of a joke

Boris Korczak · Dec 30, 2010

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Nope. The leadrs name is Barbara Schwartz. Oh, what a woman.
Stay safe.
BK

timthephoto;1369559 said:

Rufus why are you protecting the identity of our leader?

Everyone knows it's Tommy Davies!!

Magnonymous · Jan 6, 2011

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Lovely write up...I have to admit I'm here partly due to looking for protest venues related to Anonymous. Partly being the key word. I also have strong feelings on many other current issues, including Scientology. That is not relevant to the original post and my viewpoints, beliefs, intentions, etc will become clear as I express them, hopefully in an eloquent and intelligent manner.

What IS relevant to the original post is that I absolutely LOVED your edits at the end for the deliberately ignorant and the word averse. The diagram truly tickled me.

Another big thumbs up. Totally agree on the points you've made and so far I'm really liking what I've been seeing on this site (having just found it).

Keep up the good work.

P.S. Does that add me to the brown nose crowd?

WMAnon · Jan 6, 2011

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yes.

ZORRO · Jan 12, 2011

everybody is going to focus on WWP and anonymous indivuadally and groups
wikileaks ?
tunisia ?
julian aussange ?
by the way who's paying for the "fortress" and "bunker " in sweden ?
cia ?
nsa ?
fbi ?
paypal ?
visa ,?
panda security ?
scientology osas are going to offer services and datas to all these people and services and different countries "under attack or threat " they are going to be the good boys who want to help to clean up the world
WWP and ANONYMOUS will appear to be the bad guys hidden behind mask and computers ?
I was just wondering ?
I may be wrong ?
but it is a bit disturbing to watch the board lately
who's in charge ?
who's controlling?
are they any string ?
who are the real puppets ?
voila
anonymes francais
il y a www.anonymes-france.eu

Miranda · Jan 12, 2011

Zorro, please don't post speculation about other people without providing evidence of your assertions. If you have a problem with this site and its administration, you're perfectly free to go elsewhere.

new guy · Jan 12, 2011

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DeathHamster · Jan 12, 2011

After this latest release a Pentagon official, who wished to remain anonymous due to the sensitive nature of the material involved,

Rufus T Firefly · Jan 12, 2011

Miranda said: ↑

Zorro, please don't post speculation about other people without providing evidence of your assertions. If you have a problem with this site and its administration, you're perfectly free to go elsewhere.

or for that matter you are free to state your problem plainly.

SwordBreaker · Feb 24, 2011

Zak McKracken said: ↑

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^
Get that power

Also, make it mandatory reading before new unregistered users are able to read any other posts, or any other content from this site, period.

(mandatory voice verification w/ skype, & Palaver wouldn't hurt either)

"Mandatory voice verification" would be great! Then anyone with "voice printing recognition capapility" could-ultimately-IDENTIFY-the speaker. You first? "Voice Printing": Your voice is a FingerPrint. This is relatively old law enforcement technology. Articles on Wikipedia.

SwordBreaker · Feb 24, 2011

P.S in re "Voice Printing" identification; using your real voice on the net makes you IDENTIFIABLE. I doubt the capablilty of any voice alteration software to make it totally "Anonymous" Voice generation softwarer, however most likely IS anonymous.

SwordBreaker · Feb 24, 2011

Anonymous said: ↑

Re: PLEASE READ - Anonymous, WhyWeProtest, and Wikileaks

Get a clue!
The government doesn't act against a crime.
Publishing leaks is not a crime.

IN Law "misappraisal of a felony" ( not exposing a felony you know of, is a felony) in USA, Also, the U.S. led Trials at Nuremberg established in International Law, that a Soldier could NOT use the defense "I was just following orders" if he was asked to commit Crimes Against Humanity. Bradley is a Hero.

Herro · Feb 25, 2011

SwordBreaker said: ↑

IN Law "misappraisal of a felony" ( not exposing a felony you know of, is a felony) in USA, Also, the U.S. led Trials at Nuremberg established in International Law, that a Soldier could NOT use the defense "I was just following orders" if he was asked to commit Crimes Against Humanity. Bradley is a Hero.

He was also reckless. I'm still not sure how I feel about him.

hushpuppy · Aug 9, 2011

FYI, I moved the Iran posts to a separate thread here:
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/help-for-iran.92001/

feynman137 · Aug 17, 2011

I will give you 5 internets for this text

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