Well Done, Anon! (One nitipick...Poll is hard to read (dark text on dark background) and "With" should be "Will")
^ Samefag...it let me change my vote and I unchecked the block so there are no votes...plox try again...
if all this hadn't of come up, i never would have noticed this connection (thanks, Ms Streisand): Pierre Ethier allegedly(1,2) aided in mind fuck of Epic Sword Guy (Mario Majorski). I assume this on his resume of BIG WINS?
have you seen the fucking *state* of that html page? LOLOLOL great long TLDR in size 120 in an even bigger longer TLDR nutters page is nutty --- edit --- i just did word search on that ½ meg index page and epic-sword-guy is indeed listed about 95% down the page in the 3000+ list of mind-fuck victims. Pierre Ethier Audited Mario Majorski
How did Majorski "storm the facility"? He was shot dead right beside his open car door without having advanced one foot toward Celebrity Center.
And what about the video? Doesn't the public have a right to know? Let's see that video of a man, driven mad by Scientology, shot down and killed by Scientology!
Aspies are weird, but few seem to be stupid. Strangely enough, most I've met have low tolerance for woo.
so... Scientologist Pierre Ethier brainwashed Mario Majorski causing mental harm, and then Scientology shot Mario Dead ? ...amirite?
And Majorski, without a family or anyone in the world who cared, was shot down right beside his car, and the video of it has been viewed only by the infiltrated police and by Scientology, notably by David Miscavige who probably had a good laugh over it, watching it anytime he pleases for his amusement. But we can't see it. EVER. Mario Majorsky has been successfully erased.
Everyone in the "Free" zone is still OUI-LRH including Marty and Rinder, you know, mind-fucked by decades of LRH lies and controlling processing, believing in entheta, still approving the conman's abusive policies, essentially still under Hubbard's control just like all those in the Un-Free Zone of "Radical" Scientology (ALL Scientology is Radical and utter bullshit). Miscavige is a problem, a product of Hubbard's scheme, but not THE problem, THE problem is and always has been the convicted, abusive, controlling fraud L. Ron Hubbard. The man has been thoroughly exposed, entheta was his way of keeping his minions from searching for the truth about him. Pierre Ethier is a fucking mess, God help him, LRH certainly did not, he created the mess. Entheta is nonsense, go ahead........ Google: L. Ron Hubbard............. Wake The Fuck Up....... What a piece of shit this "great humanitarian" L. Con Hubbard was.
Everything I've read shown that he was killed next to his car after being observed by security driving onto the lot wielding samurai swords. His erratic behavior was known to the guards.
Can you show me where Marty's group is engaging in the abuses carried out by the Church of Scientology?
I'm sorry to go all Herro in you, but surely you jest? There's nothing to indicate Marty is acting on behalf of CoS, and plenty to show he is acting against them. If Marty is acting on behalf of CoS (and that is a bloody big if, tinfoil to the Moon and back), hen there's a serious power struggle within CoS, where Marty and Slappy each trying to wrestle controll from the other. I'm sure Marty would have liked that to be the case, but I have not seen a shred of evidence to indicate that is the case. DoX?
Besides lying, and attempting to resurrect the image and reputation of Hubbard and pre-Miscavige Scientology, don't forget that he sells the Hubbard mind fuck. But he has no organization now, so how much harm can he do? But he can keep the virus alive.
As much as imprisonment ("the hole," inwards facing razor-wire at Gold etc etc), crush-regging, driving people to suicide (Gloria LOPEZ, Patrice VIC), pratising medicine wothout a license (Lisa McPherson treated by David Miscavige himself, countless victims deprived of their medication at Narconon, very dangerous doses of vitamins on the "purification rundown")? Not in my opinion, no. Best Regards Jens
Marty Rathbun is holding back information that could seriously hurt the cult. How many affidavits has he written? There's lots Marty isn't saying. Looks like Miscavige and Rathbun have a quiet understanding that neither will say anything that could place them both in prison.
The types of things you describe were done before Miscavige came along. Rathbun regards that time as the good old days. He's in denial about the Hubbard-era abuses. Rathbun is one person. What you describe was done by many people working together applying LRH Tech. Rathbun is a big LRH fan. The organization isn't going away, but Rathbun is rehabilitating Scientology's image by pushing the lie that what's wrong with Scientology is misapplication by Miscavige and other "SPs." Ger rid of Miscavige and presto! A fresh start applying non-altered LRH! Here we go again! Same lies all over again. But I forgot. You don't have a problem with "lies."
Nice straw man you got there How can you forget what you can manifestly not learn by simply reading and understanding? Best Regards Jens
Rathbun's mission is to rehabilitate the reputation of Hubbard and Scientology (as much as possible) in advance of Miscavige disappearing (it'll happen sooner than expected). Then all those empty Orgs can fill up with new raw meat. And all will celebrate the departure of the big bad SP. Enjoy the ride!
Assuming Marty is still part of the cult is like assuming that the Marcabians and evil psychs run the world.
Marty believes in disconnection and SPs and believes that the Introspection Rundown is an appropriate thing to do for someone experiencing a psychotic break. However, he is allowed to believe what he wants. It's reasonable to criticize him for his adherence to even the most harmful parts of the tech and reasonable to think he should be in jail for things he did while in the Church. But he has yet to demonstrably do anything significantly criminal since leaving. You can certainly make the case that he is helping Miscavige by helping them identify disaffected people and making them easier to monitor but it seems far fetched to claim that he is deliberately working for the CoS.
Heh! You know I love you, Pooks, but here we go again. Let me lay my cards on the table. I don't know WTF Marty is up to. Some days I think he's probably trying the best he can with that tech-fried brain of his to bring about an end to the cult. Perhaps he's running a gradient "reality level" approach designed to reach into the cult and speak to its members. Perhaps they need first to believe its DM before they can see its actually LRH. Other days I think he's part of an OSA outreach programme designed to corral escapees while providing sufficient breathing space for the cult to maximise returns prior to the organised "retirement" of David Miscavige and the subsequent PR reformation as per the transition from GO to OSA. What generates my ambivalence is the fact that M²&M² Show has kept silent about the real crimes which could put DM in jail tomorrow, provided *nothing* new to the anti-cult debate, actively sought to neuter the Aussie inquiry, negated class action suits, has never actually got *anyone* out of the cult, generated dissent within the OG fraternity, and perpetuated the myth that DM is the source of all Evil. Bottom line, for me, is this: the abuses of Scientology lies in its tech. Sure, we have our poster-people (Lisa McPherson and so on) but the real crime, so far as I am concerned, is the prosaic day-to-day robbing from society of the goodness we can expect from people who are not lured into the mind fuck. Scientology is stealing from me by robbing my community of the contribution altruistic, hard-working people might otherwise contribute. Fuck the OTs and fuck the high level staff. I want the Sea Org grunts to be free. And Marty is perpetuating their imprisonment. If grown adults want to, as part of their spiritual journey, indulge in regular hypnotic-like states so as to reduce their cognitive functioning down to believing in Xenu and the body-thetans, all good, no worries. But let them do so with informed consent and stay the fuck away from children (ie, those aged under 18 years). Marty is seeking to deny that informed consent by lying every time he opens his mouth. So, sure, maybe he's doing what he can, or maybe he's not. Either way, the possibility that he (and his mates) are working against the elimination of the abuses cannot be denied.
Fighting over ideas and speculations is what I love most about Anonymous. Agreement, if it exists, should arise naturally and independently. Carry on.
Why the hell is Marty even being discussed here (he's got his own Situation Room, btw). Last time I checked, the tile of the thread was Pierre Ethier tries to shutdown ESMB. [BRB, looking] Yep. Hasn't changed.
