Phoenix: shutting down operations

Phoenix: shutting down operations

It's been a fun run, but there is a lack of participation that has us seriously considering not protesting any longer.

We wish all the other active cells good luck and if there's anything we can help with just let us know.

azraids@gmail.com

<3 NinjaLlama

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Sorry to hear. But the Phx. org is pretty boring.

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As long as there is 1 there is participation.

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Arizona org is even more dead than the local Anon cell, so comfort yourselves with this knowledge. You are bigger in number and they know it.

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Two things.
Your considering? I say don't stop.

Us? Where I'm at there is no"us",there is just me. If I had an"us" then I'd still be doing it.Boring mission/org or not.
I havent been out there since last year. Im itching to,just dont have anyone to help.

My point is ,,,,,if you have company,dont stop till this thing is done.

Oh and never post fail! Somewhere theres a Scibot taking credit for it.

F.

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Keep on the good fight before going to a corner and wait for scilons to break into your house and steal your pokemonz.

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A local member had the courage to sue in small claims court, I like to think it was partly because of the courage you guys showed. Somebody probably feels a little bit less taken advantage of in Phoenix. Good job.

And of course there is always the every other month as an option, as well as the "keeping them guessing" option. I hope you take one of them.

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If you are losing participation because the Phoenix org is boring then try protesting in another location. Some of the Chicago Anons like to protest at Millennium Park. There is a lot of foot traffic there even on cold rainy days like last month. Many people stopped to take our pictures and talk to us. If there are still a few of you left, perhaps going to a more active area could rebuild your numbers while telling people about Scientology and Anonymous.

Also, if you are using Facebook instead of posting a planning thread on WWP then new people may not be able to find you. There was a posting on WWP last August by someone looking for you guys.

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.... or move to Ron's house in the shadow of Camelback on Tatum Drive.

Apparently it's one of the $cilons heritage museums and could be lulzy to protest there.

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In the absence of physical protests...there is always the InterWeb.

There are many ways to protest.

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Why not just protest less frequently? You never know when there's newfags around the corner.

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We don't need more keyboard warriors.

Keeping up the pressure at the orgs is critical.

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PHX! It was fun meeting you guise in 2008 when I was there on a two-month I.T. contract. Loved the light box signs, so clever.
Don't give up the fight...

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Do you have any pix and vids from protests held outside during 2010?

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know that you guise would be beloved heroes walking about ASU.

please accept my thanks for everything you have done.
sincerely,
anonymous.

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maybe one day somebody like Janet Napolitano or John McCain will wanna take note.

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If you quit because there's "no participation"-then your heart was never really in it in the first place.
Don't stop cause others aren't there to hold you hand, it's like when people ask who else is going when asked to miniraid.
DON'T. BE. A. BITCH. And let you shit die out of lazyness.


In FACT, I know someone who was in town last weekend for Thanksgiving visiting family-I had to go to your facebook page FOR him since he isn't on there and couldn't find any information on HERE.

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The Irish Cultural centre on Saturday: http://www.azirish.org/calendar/event.php?eid=20101203130641244

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Schools. Libraries. Govt offices. Shopping malls. Local parks. There are many places besides the Org to protest at. You think the clams just sit at their Org and wait for foot traffic? Hell no. They get out there and find places. You should be no different.

Get them shut down, inform people about why the cult should be taxed, deny them gullible and impressionable minds. Do something to stay on the offensive because when you mix it up you'll stay interested.

Don't give up.

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If you can find out where they put up their stress tables and corner them there, should generate enough drama to keep it interesting.

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Ouch. Too harsh and ill informed.
(Your friend could have raided anyway....it ain't rocket science....wth all due respect.....hate the blame/excuse thing ....you seem to criticize that o start out with)
I think N-L may be trollin' us....cause that anon has been there from the git....boots on the ground......if ninja wanna break, ninja has earned a break....no way are phxanons gonna give it up or let it down.....
my fondest away raid was in phx.....even cool cops.....and they are the inventors of the light box sign.....coolest thing ever.....

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DOX PLOX?
This is relevant to mine internets.

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How close is scientology from becoming a True registered religion in other parts of this world?

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Two threads I saw

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/former-staff-sues-phoenix-org-cos-arizona-57141/


http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/march-8-9am-phoenix-org-hauled-back-court-60610/

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TBH,
if the total numbers of IRL peeps in your cell drop far enough,
it COULD leave the ones who remain much more vulnerable to OSA ops.

If your org is deader'n El Ron--- probably not an issue.
And from what I've seen, the OSA playbook hasn't really changed,
and their fail tactics haven't changed.

From the standpoint of safety, its a race between:
steadily dropping numbers of raid participants and
steadily dropping strength (and membership) of CoS defenders.

If the stats in your org are diving faster than the stats in your cell, yay.
If the stats in your cell are plunging harder, meh.
either way
u know what 2 do fgt

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Here's the deal... Ninja(my newlywed wife) and I have made life long friends doing this and as a whole have made doing this a huge part of what we are. The facts are we are leaving phoenix soon, and we have started pulling our involvement as packing and other IRL stuff crops up. We have made it clear to people who we do this with want to continue, we will happily turn over the mass of signage, materials, and contacts we have stored for the years.

I'm damn proud of what we have done here in Phoenix, from forging a respectfull relationship with the local police dept, to helping Mr Grove settle his case. As a group we made a lot of tough decisions over the years, like keeping the protests away from becoming character assassinations, refusing to protest on sundays(illegal here), and choosing to stay out of residential areas. Our message has been received by the masses that walk by during the monthly art festivals, and has perpetuated into a general local understanding that the local scientology org is a fraud, and is not to be visited even for a laugh.

I have a few regrets, like involving a certain hack opinion writer, and loosing contact with Mr Grove after his settlement. However if I had it to do again, I would have only been better prepared. I am going to keep an eye on this thread and forum as always, however life calls for change... and we are still capable of showing back up, unannounced anytime.

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This is good to hear, life moves on and that is another thing that happens in real life that differs from being in the cult. It sounds like you've done a great job and the lessons you've help teach the local community will endure for sometime after you have left the area.

Keep up the good work where ever you may go.

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Just wanted to expand on my thoughts a bit:

It was not without a great amount of consideration that we decided to suspend normal protesting activities indefinitely. As my husband Edweird stated, our lives are taking us elsewhere for the time being. The friends we made through protesting have been some of the greatest friends we've made (some of them were even in our wedding party).

As for the Phoenix protesters: I think we've had some of the greatest and most dedicated protesters ever, certainly some of the coolest protest cops we could ask for, and an org that was active enough to be interesting, but certainly not getting anywhere quickly (their bank account for their ideal org [All orgs ideal by 2011! HA!] is empty and they're frequently late on rent). We were proud to sit behind Mr. Grove during his hearing against the local Org. I also think Phoenix had some of the most creative people the movement could ask for. The wealth of ideas and ability to make them happen made Phoenix awesome.

Are we washing our hands of the situation? Absolutely not. Can we be accused of never having our hearts in this to begin with? Never. This is a cause we will forever have our ears to the ground about. The fight isn't over, we're not walking away never to be heard from again, but the normal protests here for the time are done. The last year or so we had the perfect protest set-up: A monthly artwalk in the neighborhood where Scientology set-up shop for which thousands of people walked around looking at the gallery in the art district, Scientology setting it's stress test tables out in their parking lot, and a ton of locals who were very supportive of us and willing to listen and engage in conversation. Scientology's reputation in their neighborhood is badly bruised.

And as for finding their stress test booths, we did that to. If we found they were set up outside a local Wal-mart or were out at a festival, we did our very best to muster up a few protesters and get out there. I really hate to see that people could accuse Phx protesters of not being fully into what we were committed to. The group that stuck it out for damn near 3 years were incredible, and they deserve to be called nothing less. So please don't start ragging on the awesome protesters here just because we've decided that life has moved on. These are some dedicated and smart people who aren't going to just give up and stand aside, we've all just got some other things going on (jobs, moving, marriage, various reasons).

That being said: for those who wanted to sit back and be told what to do about protesting, or were out looking for someone or something else to tag along to: don't wait. If you want to get out there and hit the pavement, just do it! No one but yourself is stopping you. Grab a friend (don't go alone) and just go. Just stay away from the L. Ron house on Camelback because it is in a residential neighborhood and those people don't want a lot of hulabaloo. While we might have good reason to protest out there if that is where they try to slink back to, it's not worth alienating the general public over. The people near that house know what's going on and have different avenues of doing their business about the situation.

We will have our eyes always on Scientology. If we happen to be back in town and find some reason to swing by the org will we? Mayyyybe.

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No case on post?

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Moving out of town is something different entirely. Feel free of course to enturbulate your new local org, if there is one where you move!

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Nothing wrong with quitting. Despite the cliche things people in this thread have said and will say, you guys quitting really will make fuck all difference. I say if you're not enjoying it then why the hell would you keep doing it? You're not going to change anything. Might as well find something else fun to do.

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If this was something important then yeah I'd agree with you. But come on, it's Scientology. It really doesn't matter that much.

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Thanks for your warm hostility...er hospitality



badpeople by knotoftoads, on Flickr

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I hope there will be some anons who will raid on our 3rd Anoniversary coming up in three months.

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Showed up at the irish cultural center. this was my first time going to anything and we made our presence known, well as much at 2 people could. I would love to show up at more events and i have a few people that would help the cause so anything we can do let us know.

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I don't understand this.

How can one poster close down an anon cell?

If nobody shows up to protests then so be it but this would be like closing a Class V org, it just isn't done, and if it does happen, you certainly don't spread the word. I have a good mind to totally restructure my life and go raid in Phoenix.

Because I can.

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Okay.

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Fuck Scientology - Phoenix Anonymous » Home

^
you faggots better not be letting this domain die
anon will neither forgive you nor forget

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Oy vey...

That "fuck scientology" site is not ours, or someone who joined us for protests. The guy who owns that domain did drop by occasionally to give us <3 and go goof on the culties, so I would not expect it to go away.

As for 'how can one poster close down an anon cell' ... Ninja and I speak for the group of 8-10 of the regulars who whould show. We have all become close friends over the years and they leave the logistics and such to us. As a group we have pulled the plug, someone else is welcome to pick it back up anytime. I wouldn't put it out of question that we may flashraid when it feels lulzy, but the monthly thing is kaput for us.