OpDeatheaters Lord Janner Justice in Scotland. Not England

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by Disambiguation, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. Disambiguation Global Moderator
    There was enough evidence to charge him with pedophilia but because he has dementia the police dtopped it. The political climate has changed and he is being investigated for crimes in Scotland and may be charged there.
    This is another of the Operation Yewtree group.
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  3. Sapere Aude Member

    No word of old Janner being stripped of his title?

    The Right Honourable Lord Janner of Braunstone is anything but honourable.
  4. Disambiguation Global Moderator

    the title of the thread isn't inforative and I'll change it. Any suggestions?
    There are two important parts to this.
    First - the political landscape has changed. Enabling of pedophilia by the British government has ended because of public exposure of VIP child predators and public outrage. The English prosecutors dropped charges against Jannar because of his dementia. He has given speeches since then.

    Second its about Scotish identity in Great Britian. Scotland has a separate legal system and is charging for the crimes by Jannar that occurred on Scottish soil.
    This forces the English to examine the evidence again
    there is discussion about stripping him of his title.
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    He is attempting to avoid financial claims of victims by transferring assets to his family claiming dementia but...
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  8. Sapere Aude Member

    My interest in Janner dates back more than twenty years to something else I think Janner is linked to, and should it prove to be the case I will provide the background and details if it helps in any way.

    If he is tried under the Scottish system it is all to the good for his victims, and might in some way restore faith, or some at least in the judiciary. Being tried there might be the much needed Hail Mary.

    Something we should remember is Janner is a QC and knows exactly how to work the system, which makes this all the more interesting to watch.
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  10. Sapere Aude Member

    Good day Dis and thanks for this link, again it serves as a reminder of Janner's ability to work the system to ensure a favourable outcome for himself, his manipulation of the medical profession into a diagnosis of senile dementia is further proof of it.
    If he's fit to drive and sign cheques he's fit to be questioned, and if he can make appearances in the House of Lords there should be no doubts in the minds of the DPP as to the clarity of Janner's mind and his ability to stand questioning.

    I'm aware of the urgency in giving you the information and as soon as I've gathered all of the pieces together I will pass it on to you. My immediate problem is connecting the parts of info together ,ensuring it's all there and accurate otherwise it's useless.

    Without saying too much there's a need for extreme caution on my part.
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  11. Hint.

    Find the woman Eirlys L**** -S**** former Advocate in Edinburgh lived Abercromby Place Edinburgh.
    Ask who she helped flee to Canada.
    Search out cases involving Advocates in Edinburgh/ Scotland during the late 1980's.
    High court trials where top level legals were on trial themselves and you've got your J link.
  12. @Sapere Aude mind how you go they are NOT amateurs, a few of them escaped notice then and are around today.
    You got my penny's worth.
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  15. Anonymous Member

    Apparently the facts can be heard in court even if he is deemed unable to be present!
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  16. The Wrong Guy Member

    What other crimes could someone get away with if they paid a doctor to say they had dementia?

    Also, what is the statute of limitations for armed robbery?

    Asking for a friend.

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    Under UK law the penalties for armed robbery are exceptionally high due to its being considered as intent.. If the robbery was without arms significantly less.
    Regarding statute of limitations in UK depending on the crime there is none.
    If its armed robbery then UK police don't close the books on it.

    If for example shotguns or even small arms were taken along the penalties usually begin with 15 years and upwards depending on factors like anyone being shot or shot at.
    Its a mixed bag but armed robbers don't get off lightly.
    Ronnie Biggs being a case in point he was one of the notorious great train robbers he escaped to south America and when he returned to UK as a very old and sick man he was still imprisoned.
    Other examples I'd offer are the Brink's billion robbery UK police never stopped searching for those involved.
    Lord Lucan who was thought to have murdered his kids nanny rumoured to have drowned but its debatable according to some police still want his head on the block, that occurred more than forty years ago.
    So statute of limitations doesn't really apply in UK.

    And as for general practitioners diagnosing dementia unlawfully as in the case of grevill janner they should be struck off.

    UK law in not cut and dried and janner case you have a clear illustration of no statute of limitations.
    Other cases related to it are coming under review again.
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    For intent read intent to take life.
  19. 547

    Also my spelling errors due to trapping finger in car door.

    Billion should be bullion as in gold bullion.

    Finger hurts like fuck.

    Your friend if he's worried about anything should inquire about an amnesty if he's in trouble.

    Some UK lawyers will do pro bono and also have 24 hours advice lines where you can call for free and seek advice in confidence.

    Citizens advice bureau will occasionally assist in the finding of legal advice for free if rsquired.
    They have lawyers on tap if needed.
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    One more thing to take into consideration is the law in England is not exactly the same as Scotland there is a different system of prosecution and the laws vary to some degree.

    Safer for your friend to check this first.
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    There are several sources your friend can check if anything is outstanding like a warrant. All police divisions have their own websites with "family albums" of anyone wanted for anything.
    For a clearer understanding of UK law try the and find the subsection on law or poke around. Googlefu it if he's really desperate.
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    If all your friend is worried about is him stealing lollipops from the !ocal confectionery shop armed with a water pistol he's free and easy.
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  24. Notice the use of YOUR FRIEND in replies.

    Next time don't fucking ask.
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    This is my fav
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    If only I could be there.
    He's Jewish?
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