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Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

Discussion in 'Sharron Angle' started by xenubarb, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. xenubarb Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    I'm betting she is a member of the Scilon-infested National Foundation of Women Legislators. The program she supported was Second Chance, basically a Narconon knockoff run by "Jewelry Joy" Westrum, who serves on boards in the NFWL.

    I wrote the editor of the paper, explaining how legislators were warned of this program back in 2002, and how they rightly rejected it. New Mexico did not, so I gave the account of Albuquerque's amusing experience where they slunk off in the middle of the night leaving staff unpaid, owing thousands in back rent, and absconding with major appliances from the leased building's kitchen facility.

    Angle is bawwing that the story of her support of Second Chance was "politically motivated." Nah. I was one of the people working to inform the Nevada legislature, the majority of whom actually did some research and subsequently rejected the program.

    New Mexico didn't, with laughable results. I questioned the integrity of any politician who would support an organization that deals in human trafficking, human rights violations, coerced abortion and child labor.

    Poon this shit! Sharron Angle doesn't belong in the senate any more than Jeff Stone does.
  2. xenubarb Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    My letter:

  3. AIN Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    there are tons of ways to use this
    for example, to get the tea baggers in a froth, just tell them this program would give prisons goverement paid for Sauna treatments, and then sit back as they go apeshit!

    Or, in case of the more secularist movement
    simply provide the link between narconon and COS. Watch as the secularist launch sepration of church and state lawsuits

    each aspect will piss off a certain group.
    truth be told, if you really want to scare the shit out of her, make inquires into the IRS about the voliation of 501(c) tax exemeption. In essence, if a tax exempt group like a church engages in pretty much any form of political action (Backing a certain caninidate, telling its members to vote a certain way, etc) they are considered a PAC (Political Action Group) and lose their exempt status.
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  5. mnql1 Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    An attack ad based on Sharron Angle's "proposed legislation to create a taxpayer-funded, Church of Scientology inspired program to provide massages & saunas for convicts" was posted on YouTube on May 16:
  6. RightOn Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    oh hell no
  7. TypingChimp Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    What's this about Kurt Angle running for the Senate?
  8. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    The maker of that video seems to think Narconon's "sauna and massage" treatment is enjoyable. :) Oh well; let that be another level of shocking discovery for him....
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  10. xenubarb Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    Sharron Angle did not ask for public money for the Ensenada trip. That was offered by an "anonymous humanitarian" who was later identified as Arizona Scientologist Randall Suggs.
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  14. DeathHamster Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    GOP Senate hopefuls debate who has best chance to beat Reid - News - ReviewJournal.com
    Working in New Mexico, she says? 10% re-offenders?

    Elrondorly.jpg

    Isn't this the Second Chance operation that disappeared in the middle of the night with mysterious busing of dangerous offenders here and there? The one that was exposed as lying about their success rates?

    She's either unbelievably uninformed or just lying through her teeth. (Survey says ... Teeth!)

    I guess it's time to dig up those Second Chance articles and videos and send it where it'll do some good.
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  16. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    Yep. We see the disease; information is the cure.
  17. moarxenu Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    New article from LV Sun:

    Angle campaign working to quiet Scientology question - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 | 2 a.m. - Las Vegas Sun

    By David McGrath Schwartz (contact)
    Wednesday, May 26, 2010 | 2 a.m.


    CARSON CITY — Surging Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle has had to defend her support of a prison program that her opponents linked to Scientology. Trying to head off that theme, Angle has eliminated from her campaign website mention of prominent members of the church, whom she worked with on other legislative efforts.

    Angle has removed the claim that she, along with actresses Kelly Preston and Jenna Elfman, approached Sen. John Ensign to sponsor legislation prohibiting school employees from requiring students to take psychotropic drugs, such as anti-depressants.

    Preston and Elfman are high-profile members of the Church of Scientology, which does not believe in the use of psychiatric drugs.

    Instead, Angle’s website, sharronangle.com, says only that Ensign sponsored a bill “at Angle’s request.”

    (In 2001 and 2003, Angle introduced legislation in Nevada similar to the federal legislation, which passed.)

    The apparent scrubbing of her website of the potentially controversial issue — critics of Scientology call it a cult — comes as Angle gains ground in the Republican primary, which has narrowed to a three-way race to take on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

    Angle’s surge has been fueled in part by the missteps of her opponents and a spate of national endorsements, including from the Tea Party Express and conservative Club for Growth.

    Sue Lowden, formerly the clear front-runner, has begun attacking Angle, including for her support in 2003 of a drug-treatment program for inmates that included saunas and massages as treatment.

    Lowden’s campaign and many establishment Republicans believe it would be difficult for Angle to beat Reid in the general election. Angle has taken rigid ideological stands that may help her in the primary, but would likely alienate many independents and Democrats in November.

    Any ties to Scientology could be troublesome for a candidate whose biggest challenge may be convincing Republican primary voters that she can gather mainstream support.

    Jerry Stacy, spokesman for Angle, said the attacks are “desperate. This is what desperate people do. (Lowden) is in serious trouble. This is no longer just about who can beat Harry Reid. It’s about who will best represent Nevada.”

    Angle, a Southern Baptist who has quoted scripture during media interviews, has never advocated Scientology, he said. “This is all about blowing this thing out of proportion — making it sound like she’s a Scientologist.”

    Though she never presented a bill, Angle did attempt to organize a legislative trip to see the inmate treatment program at a Mexican jail. She made the proposal after visiting the facility with a former corrections department director. The legislative trip would have been arranged and paid for by a member of the Church of Scientology, and critics say the program is modeled on the faith’s teachings.

    Angle lobbied Gov. Kenny Guinn to support the program, Guinn confirmed Monday.

    Though Angle has had to defend her position on the prison program, her role in the federal legislation on psychotropic drugs has not previously been reported in the media.

    Not that Angle was trying to hide that role, at least before she entered the national spotlight. As recently as March, one entry in a list of accomplishments on her website read: “Kelly Preston (Mrs. John Travolta), Jenna Elfman (Dharma and Greg Sit Com) and Robin Read (Director of NFWL) accompanied Sharron Angle to Senator Ensign’s” office, according to online search archives.

    In a March interview with the Las Vegas Sun, Angle volunteered that she and Preston had visited Ensign about the legislation on psychotropic drugs.

    The website now says only that Angle “made it unlawful nationally for anyone but a physician to require the use psychotropic drugs (such as Ritalin) for public school attendance by certain children. Senator John Ensign sponsored the bill at Angle’s request.”

    Angle’s website formerly said that accompanying her to Ensign’s office was Read, who heads the National Foundation of Women Legislators. That organization, which some say has links to Scientology, promotes the drug treatment program that Angle advocated for in 2003.

    The group’s website lists Angle as a legislative chairwoman of the Business, Housing & Economic Development Committee.

    Read did not return calls for comment.

    Stacy, Angle’s spokesman, said the website was recently revamped. Any change was likely because of that reworking — not because of criticism of her support for the prison drug treatment program, he said.

    But Angle has downplayed her associations with Scientology since entering the U.S. Senate race.

    “You may agree with me, but that doesn’t mean I agree with you all the time,” Angle said of her relationship with members of the church. “I’m still glad to have you on board.”

    Stacy said the legislation that Angle asked Ensign to sponsor addressed a serious issue. “We had a problem of teachers wanting kids to be doped up. It’s not a teacher’s place to decide whether a kid is on drugs,” he said.

    When she pushed similar legislation in the Legislature, Angle said she wanted to prevent school employees from forcing students to take medicine such as Ritalin. “The problems we’re seeing with our children and these shooting incidents — such as at Columbine — psychotropic drugs are linked to them,” Angle told the Assembly Education Committee in 2001. The bill was not successful.
  18. DeathHamster Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    The only reason that she never presented a bill is because the other legislators (D and R) were informed about the program's connect to Scientology, and so there wasn't a hope in [STRIKE]hell[/STRIKE] Nevada of it not being an Epic Fail if tried. Also, she wasn't forthcoming at the start that the trip would be paid for by Scientologist Randall Suggs.
    And yeah, she did lobby Gov. Kenny Guinn.
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  20. RightOn Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    about the latest LV Sun article..
    I hardly find mentioning that Angle supports the purif in jails which would be funded by tax payers "desperate" or an attack. lol

    applause to Lowden
  21. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    I'm no fan of Lowden, but for purposes of Chanology, what's important here is the DO NOT WANT toward the cult which this article is playing up. Article is major win on that front.
  22. AIN Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    guys, the simplest way to shut her down politically is have, in my view, the shark fight the squid. I am sure if the local tea party was informed that she wants the 1. State to pay for 2. Prisoners to receive 3. Sauna and Vitamin treatments (AKA spa) for 4. Drug addicts, this will happen
    1+3 -> 2+4=Full on rage.
  23. moarxenu Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    This is srs bzns. A vote for Angle is a vote for Scientology influence in the Senate of the US. Harry Reid is on shaky ground, which means there may be a Republican Senator who replaces him. If it is Sharron Angle she will be Scientology's fellow traveler in the Senate.
  24. AnonKat Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    OP UDATE FP PLOX with THIS (26 of MAY)

    Sharron Angle campaign working to quiet Scientology question

    Website removes names of the faith’s famous followers

    Sharron Angle campaign working to quiet Scientology question - Wednesday, May 26, 2010 | 2 a.m. - Las Vegas Sun

    By David McGrath Schwartz (contact)

    Wednesday, May 26, 2010 | 2 a.m.

    Carson City — Surging Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle has had to defend her support of a prison program that her opponents linked to Scientology. Trying to head off that theme, Angle has eliminated from her campaign website mention of prominent members of the church, whom she worked with on other legislative efforts.

    Angle has removed the claim that she, along with actresses Kelly Preston and Jenna Elfman, approached Sen. John Ensign to sponsor legislation prohibiting school employees from requiring students to take psychotropic drugs, such as anti-depressants.

    Preston and Elfman are high-profile members of the Church of Scientology, which does not believe in the use of psychiatric drugs.

    Instead, Angle’s website, sharronangle.com, says only that Ensign sponsored a bill “at Angle’s request.”

    (In 2001 and 2003, Angle introduced legislation in Nevada similar to the federal legislation, which passed.)

    The apparent scrubbing of her website of the potentially controversial issue — critics of Scientology call it a cult — comes as Angle gains ground in the Republican primary, which has narrowed to a three-way race to take on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

    Angle’s surge has been fueled in part by the missteps of her opponents and a spate of national endorsements, including from the Tea Party Express and conservative Club for Growth.

    Sue Lowden, formerly the clear front-runner, has begun attacking Angle, including for her support in 2003 of a drug-treatment program for inmates that included saunas and massages as treatment.

    Lowden’s campaign and many establishment Republicans believe it would be difficult for Angle to beat Reid in the general election. Angle has taken rigid ideological stands that may help her in the primary, but would likely alienate many independents and Democrats in November.

    Any ties to Scientology could be troublesome for a candidate whose biggest challenge may be convincing Republican primary voters that she can gather mainstream support.

    Jerry Stacy, spokesman for Angle, said the attacks are “desperate. This is what desperate people do. (Lowden) is in serious trouble. This is no longer just about who can beat Harry Reid. It’s about who will best represent Nevada.”

    Angle, a Southern Baptist who has quoted scripture during media interviews, has never advocated Scientology, he said. “This is all about blowing this thing out of proportion — making it sound like she’s a Scientologist.”

    Though she never presented a bill, Angle did attempt to organize a legislative trip to see the inmate treatment program at a Mexican jail. She made the proposal after visiting the facility with a former corrections department director. The legislative trip would have been arranged and paid for by a member of the Church of Scientology, and critics say the program is modeled on the faith’s teachings.

    Angle lobbied Gov. Kenny Guinn to support the program, Guinn confirmed Monday.

    Though Angle has had to defend her position on the prison program, her role in the federal legislation on psychotropic drugs has not previously been reported in the media.

    Not that Angle was trying to hide that role, at least before she entered the national spotlight. As recently as March, one entry in a list of accomplishments on her website read: “Kelly Preston (Mrs. John Travolta), Jenna Elfman (Dharma and Greg Sit Com) and Robin Read (Director of NFWL) accompanied Sharron Angle to Senator Ensign’s” office, according to online search archives.

    In a March interview with the Las Vegas Sun, Angle volunteered that she and Preston had visited Ensign about the legislation on psychotropic drugs.

    The website now says only that Angle “made it unlawful nationally for anyone but a physician to require the use psychotropic drugs (such as Ritalin) for public school attendance by certain children. Senator John Ensign sponsored the bill at Angle’s request.”

    Angle’s website formerly said that accompanying her to Ensign’s office was Read, who heads the National Foundation of Women Legislators. That organization, which some say has links to Scientology, promotes the drug treatment program that Angle advocated for in 2003.

    The group’s website lists Angle as a legislative chairwoman of the Business, Housing & Economic Development Committee.

    Read did not return calls for comment.

    Stacy, Angle’s spokesman, said the website was recently revamped. Any change was likely because of that reworking — not because of criticism of her support for the prison drug treatment program, he said.

    But Angle has downplayed her associations with Scientology since entering the U.S. Senate race.

    “You may agree with me, but that doesn’t mean I agree with you all the time,” Angle said of her relationship with members of the church. “I’m still glad to have you on board.”

    Stacy said the legislation that Angle asked Ensign to sponsor addressed a serious issue. “We had a problem of teachers wanting kids to be doped up. It’s not a teacher’s place to decide whether a kid is on drugs,” he said.

    When she pushed similar legislation in the Legislature, Angle said she wanted to prevent school employees from forcing students to take medicine such as Ritalin. “The problems we’re seeing with our children and these shooting incidents — such as at Columbine — psychotropic drugs are linked to them,” Angle told the Assembly Education Committee in 2001. The bill was not successful.

    From Marty's blog

  25. AIN Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    1. This shows how effective we are, we have made being connected to CO$ a bad thing
    2. as you read in the article, it describes the narconon treatments as pretty much a spa treatment for criminals on the tax payers dime.
  26. AquaMan Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    lol Marty

    I know that he's drunken deeply of the Sci kool-aid, but even then he never ceases to amaze me at how blinded from the truth he is by his brain washing, or how much he has to tap-dance to get around the fact that it's not the midget that's the problem, but the "tech" itself, considering that Hubbard himself organized [edit]narconon[/edit] back in the 60s, long before wee little Davey was anything more than just another culty's crotch dropping.
  27. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    That wasn't Mahty's posting.

    Jus' sayin'. Your assessment of him is spot on anyway and the comment is not unlike something he would say.
  28. AquaMan Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    Yeah, that similarity was what kept me from looking up the actual entry, because it did sound to me like it'd be something he would say. My bad.
  29. moarxenu Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    Moar new "Is Sharron Angle a cult tool?" reports:

    HuffPo:

    Sharron Angle, Nevada Senate Candidate: 'I Am The Tea Party'

    HoffPo picked up here:

    Sharron Angle, Nevada Senate Candidate: ‘I Am The Tea Party’ | GoodPorkBadPork.com

    Swing State Project: SSP Daily Digest: 5/27 (Morning Edition)

    LOL

    CarsonNow.org:

    GOP Senate Candidate Sharron Angle Says Attacks from Lowden a

    Lowden, who has been the front runner in the multi-candidate GOP primary, last week started running an ad attacking Angle for voting on pay hikes as a member of the state Assembly and for pushing legislation in 2003 aimed at reducing recidivism among female prison inmates using a program supported by the Church of Scientology.

    Sharron has obviously bought into the cult party line about its being a religion. And she's a Southern Baptist lol.

    Vote Scientology into the US Senate; Vote Sharron Angle.
  30. RightOn Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    thanks Moar, lovely isn't it?
  31. moarxenu Member

    Re:Wikipedia on Sharron Angle and the cult

    Moar.

    Comment: the lefty media is all over this. The right is in complete denial. I think Harry Reid is licking his chops and hoping Sharron is the reptard candidate. Scientology toolness is highly exploitable.

    Sharron Angle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Vote Scientology into the US Senate; Vote for Sharron Angle!
  32. moarxenu Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    At least one conservative gets it: ConservativeForTruth at YT

  33. Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    I'm not trying to engage in political faggotry, but this is just one example of how utterly insane the Teabaggers are. I'm glad this angle is being used against Angle, and I kinda hope she wins the Nevada primary. Harry Reid will use her like a dog uses a chew toy. Saunas and spas for drug addicts? I LOVE the smell of Republican disaffection in the morning, er, evening.
  34. Anonymous Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    KOLO has a great segment:

    Adwatch: Lowden Attacks Angle's Record

    From the transcript:

  35. Anonymous Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    ... but do it anyway.

    Fail.
  36. Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    It's a discussion about a politician. Political faggotry is pretty much a given, no matter how much one tries to avoid it. I knew such efforts were futile, and I'm cool with that.
  37. DeathHamster Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    Don't forget to mention that she still says that Second Chance is working in New Mexico and that only 10 percent of the prisoners return to jail.

    That was the Second Chance that was kicked out at the end of 2008, after irregularities in the type of prisoners being treated there, their claimed success rate exposed as a fraud, and then basically vanishing in the middle of the night leaving a large utility bill.

    Not only is she clueless that the program claimed success is junk, she's unaware that they scrammed in the middle of the night a year and a half ago.



    • Second Chance hearing Westburn testimony
    • Second Chance hearing Guerin testimony
    • Second Chance responds to allegations
    • Second Chance leaves city building
    • City pulls plug on Second Chance
    • Study questions drug-treatment results
    • Nighttime shuttles clear rehab center
    • Official backs off Second Chance inmates
    • Rehab center loses contract, lease
    • Rehab center carries low success rate
    (Tea Party politics aside, even the Know Nothing party wouldn't have favored of spending money on programs that just don't work, lie about their success rate and [assuming the same contract as Narconon franchises] send over 10% of their gross income to Scientology front groups.)
  38. AnonLover Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    oh for the <3 of Xenu, ^^THIS!!! There's unanswered questions there... somebody needs to ask Angle if she ever met Joy Westrum while planning her mexixan cult excursion. And if so, does she know where Joy disappeared to after they snuck off from NM Second Chance in middle o nite with everything including the kitchen appliances that didnt even belong to 'em.
  39. DeathHamster Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    Of course she met Joy Westrum! She and Rick Pendery are the flipping "Private Sector Chair" of the National Foundation for Women Legislators' Crime, Justice, Terrorism, and Substance Abuse Policy Committee. (And who but Scientologists would put them in charge of that?)
    Policy Committees - National Foundation for Women Legislators

    By the way, I'm sure that there's a couple more KRQE programs on that Second Chance (pre-scampering), including interviews with ex-employees and a close look at their FAIL record. (Too tired to dig up the threads for those tonight.)

    Edit: I think I found it, added above.
  40. Anonymous Member

    Re: Nevada: Sharron Angle Running For Senate

    Yeah, I get that. It's the "I'm not X, but... X" thing mainly. Sounds similar to Sci shill speak. "I'm not a Scientologist, but..." followed by defending them or attacking their opponents in a Sci-ish way.

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