National Association of Forensic Counselors vs. Narconon

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by sallysock, May 18, 2014.

  1. wolfbane Member

    Here's a summary of the 16.5 pages of party information on the above docket that shows how the major teams are shaping up behind the various law firms that have gotten hired on so far.

    TeamNACF (Plaintiffs)
    David R. Keesling, Heidi L. Shadid and Sloane Ryan Lile from the Keesling Law Group, PLLC in Tulsa. (website not launched yet)

    From their FB page:
    Keesling Law Group is a boutique law firm dedicated to a national trial practice in both federal and state courts.

    This firm appears to be a brand new venture for Keesling and company, and he seems to be a reputable chap that has bounced around to various firms where he was named partner. The last one being Richardson Richardson Boudreaux Keesling.

    David L. Bryant, Amelia A. Fogleman and David E. Keglovits from GableGotwals in OKCity and Tulsa.

    From their About Us page:
    GableGotwals is a full-service law firm of over 80 attorneys (including the president of the Oklahoma Bar Association who is not on this case) representing a diversified client base across the nation. Though Oklahoma-based, our connections and reach are global. Fortune 500 corporations, entrepreneurs, privately owned companies, foundations and individuals entrust us every day with the stewardship and strategic management of their legal challenges.

    They also have a substantial list of awards and honors with Bryant and Keglovits getting multiple forms of distinquished recognition.

    DEFENDANTS represented:
    Religious Technology Center

    John J. Carwile from Atkinson Haskins Nellis Brittingham Gladd & Fiasco in Tulsa.

    From their homepage:
    Atkinson, Haskins, Nellis, Brittingham, Gladd & Fiasco is a group of aggressive litigators who have combined to try over 600 cases to jury verdict. We serve the interests of our local clients as well as out of state clients with legal issues throughout the state of Oklahoma.

    DEFENDANTS represented:
    Church of Scientology International

    Colin H. Tucker, Denelda L. Richardson, John H. Tucker and Kerry R. Lewis from Rhodes Hieronymus Jones Tucker & Gable in Tulsa.

    From the Services page:
    Rhodes Hieronymus is a litigation law firm, created in 1931. We try cases in Oklahoma’s 3 federal districts and 68 district courts. Our trial and appellate cases have established the law of Oklahoma in many of the areas of our expertise.

    DEFENDANTS represented:
    Narconon International
    Association for Better Living and Education International

    Donald M. Bingham, M. David Riggs and Wm. Gregory James from Riggs Abney Neal Turpen Orbison & Lewis.

    From their About page:
    Founded in 1972 by four graduates from the University of Tulsa College of Law, Riggs Abney is one of Oklahoma’s largest law firms... with offices in Tulsa, Oklahoma City and Denver, providing broad based legal counsel and representation in all aspects of law.

    DEFENDANTS represented:
    Narconon of Oklahoma, Inc.
    Derry Hallmark (citizen of Oklahoma)
    Janet Watkins (citizen of Oklahoma)
    Tom Widman (citizen of Oklahoma)
    Vicki Smith (citizen of Oklahoma)
    Michael Otto (citizen of Oklahoma)
    Michael J. Gosselin (citizen of Oklahoma)
    Kathy Gosselin (citizen of Oklahoma)
    Michael George (citizen of Oklahoma)
    Kent McGregor (citizen of Oklahoma)
    Dena G. Goad (citizen of Oklahoma, aka Dena G. Boman)
    Michael St. Amand ( citizen of Oklahoma)

    Charles D. Neal Jr., Rachel D. Parrilli and Stacie L. Hixon from Steidley & Neal, PLLC in Olahoma (4 cities), Arkansas and Texas.

    From their home page:
    Steidley & Neal, PLLC is a law firm comprised of trial lawyers who focus on all areas of civil litigation. The firm often serves as local counsel in litigation involving matters of national scope. With over 200 years of combined practice in litigation, our (14) attorneys have the experience to weight the scales.

    Charles "Buddy" Neal is a namesake senior partner in the firm, while Parrill and Hixon are partners. Buddy has served as a Municipal Judge, and currently serves as Adjunct Settlement Judge for the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Oklahoma.

    DEFENDANTS represented:
    Friends of Narconon Intl. (CA)
    Premazon, Inc. (CA)
    Narconon Spring Hill, Inc. (FL)
    Best Drug Rehabilitation, Inc. (NV)
    A Life Worth Living, Inc. dba Narconon Colorado
    Narconon South Texas, Inc.
    Narconon Eastern United States, Inc. (VA)
    Narconon Freedom Center, Inc. (VA)
    Golden Millennium Productions, Inc. (CA)
    International Academy of Detoxification Specialists (CA)
    GreatCircle Studios, LLC (CA)
    Royalmark Management, Inc. (CA)
    Jonathan Beazley (citizen of California)
    Joseph Guernaccini (citizen of California)
    Thomas Garcia (citizen of Florida)
    David S. Lee, III (a citizen of Indiana with two extra attorneys from McAfee & Taft in Tulsa)
    Richard Hawk (citizen of Louisiana aka Matthew Hawk)
    Anthony Bylsma (citizen of California)
    James Woodworth (citizen of Louisiana aka Jim Woodworth)
    Jonathan Moretti (citizen of California)
    Glen Petcavage (citizen of Colorado)

    Notice how the exec strata cult entities all have their own dedicated law firm. While the actual Narconon facilities and their staff at the bottom of the pecking order are being picked up by one of the two firms getting the lion share of defendants. Paints an interesting picture imo that shows how the money flows uplines in the world of scilon front groups.
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  2. wolfbane Member

    DEFENDANTS who haven't filed an ATTORNEY APPEARANCE as of June18:
    Narconon of Georgia, Inc.
    Pita Group, Inc.
    Narconon - Hawaii
    Narconon of Northern California
    Intervention Services and Technologies, Inc. dba Intervention Services (IN)
    Narconon Fresh Start, Inc. (CA)
    Narconon Trois-Rivieres (Canada)
    Narconon London dba Narconon UK
    Narconon, Incorporated dba Narconon Canada
    The Virtual Workforce Co., Ltd. (UK) (Canada)
    Gary W. Smith (citizen of Oklahoma)
    Rebecca Pool (citizen of Massachusetts)
    James McLaughlin (citizen of Texas)
    Robert Newman (citizen of Hawaii aka Bobby Newman)
    Joseph Sauceda (citizen of Texas)
    Robert J. Hernandez (citizen of California)
    Robert Wiggins (citizen of California aka Bobby Wiggins)
    Jonathan Beazley (citizen of California)
    Nicholas Bailey (citizen of California)
    Kevin Lee (citizen of Indiana)
    Sharon Kubacki (citizen of Indiana)
    Philip R. Kelly, II (citizen of Pennsylvania)
    Jason Burdge (citizen of Michigan)
    Steven K. Bruno (citizen of California)
    Clark Carr (citizen of California)
    Michael DiPalma (citizen of California)
    D. Eric Mitchell (citizen of Arkansas)
    Shana Austin (citizen of Florida)
    Nick Hayes (citizen of Quebec, CA)
    Scott Burgess (citizen of Quebec, Canada)
    David Miscavige (citizen of California)
    Tibor Palatinus (citizen of British Columbia, CA)
    Sylvain Fournier (citizen of Quebec, CA)
    Nicholas Thiel (citizen of Michigan)
    Marcel Gemme (citizen of Quebec, CA)
    Mary Rieser (citizen of Georgia)
    Kenneth H. Pomerance (citizen of Florida)
    Richer Dumais (citizen of Quebec, CA)
    Carl Smith (citizen of California)
    Desiree Cardoso (citizen of California)
    Cheryl Williams (citizen of Quebec, CA)
    Marc Bernard (citizen of Quebec, CA)
    Martin Gamsby (citizen of Quebec, CA)
    Daphna Hernandez (citizen of California)
    Luria K. Dion (citizen of California aka Kathy Dion)

    I'm betting there isn't a reputable law firm left in Tulsa who hasn't gotten at least one inquiry about representation in this lolsuit. :p
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  3. DeathHamster Member

    I'm surprised that Kent McGregor didn't have Pita under the same lawyer.
  4. Anonymous Member

    Lately, Bobby has been wearing one of Cancer Pant's Eye Brow Wigs:

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  5. The Internet Member

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  6. The Wrong Guy Member

    First motion to dismiss in the giant NAFC lawsuit

    With 82 defendants, there’s a lot to keep an eye on in the big National Association of Forensic Counselors lawsuit against Scientology and Narconon, filed in federal district court in Oklahoma. As we pointed out before, numerous defendants are choosing local representation, out-of-state defendants are filing “special appearances” to object that the court doesn’t have jurisdiction over them, and still others haven’t been heard from (including Scientology leader David Miscavige). And now, one defendant, David Lee, has already filed a motion to dismiss. Lee says that he did no business in Oklahoma, and does not operate any websites that the NAFC says were misusing its logo and certifications.

    Lee has also been mentioned by our commenters, who say that a couple of years ago he became a whistleblower against Narconon and so they’re surprised to see him in this lawsuit. We’ve also included his affadavit to go along with his motion to dismiss.

    More at
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  7. RightOn Member

    When will DM be considered a flight risk by the FBI?
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  8. tinfoilhatter Member

    The cult is involved in too many lawsuits lately, and these lawsuits, when taken together, paint a very nasty legal picture. furthermore, there is going to be a LOT of oversight in the IRS in the near future, so big organizations will not be able to get away with anything.
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  9. fishypants Moderator

    The Narconon branches have different lawyers to one another? That seems stupid.
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  10. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Isn't every Scientology entity a PITA group?
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  13. Quentinanon Member

    Likely DM does not want to put his trust in one or two lawyers because they could be blackmailed or bribed to sabotage all their lawsuits.
    He thinks that way because those are his tactics.
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  14. DeathHamster Member

    None of the Narconons or people involved know each other, so how could they cooperate on lawyers?
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  15. Quentinanon Member

    I assume you speak facetiously.
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  16. tinfoilhatter Member

    That is very interesting. Especially since they are all under several umbrella groups.
    the court documents from this should be looked at, then sent to the IRS.
  17. Random guy Member

    Narconon. like any other of the scientology front groups is understaffed and over worked as the mother cult. Sooner or later someone will send reports, money or whatnot to the wrong parent entity or at the wrong time, and all shit breaks loose. I believe this is what happened with Mary Rieser and her upline reports.
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  18. DeathHamster Member

    I don't think there was anything mistaken about Mary Rieser's notification to Narconon Int, ABLE, DSA of Atlanta Org and OSA at Church of Scientology Int. She probably followed the procedures to the letter.
    The only problem was that no wogs were supposed to see it.
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  19. tinfoilhatter Member

    What i am waiting for, is when the different lawyers start turning on each other, and start selling out the other narconons. I would say like a tank full of sharks, except sharks have more:honor, decency, community spirit, and smarts then both a scilon AND a lawyer.

    So its more like a bag full of scorpions. Retarded scorpions(scilons), and hateful scorpions(lawyers)

    But the fact that they are all separate entities not protected by the large on with umbrella legal protection CONTRADICTS the narcono international 990 mission statement, and a few others narconon entities as well.
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  20. anon8109 Member

    I suspect the strategy is the Scientology corporation's usual one when caught red handed with no defense. Blame all the wrongdoing on the lower downs and argue that the mothership (where all the money is by the way) is squeaky clean and knew nothing of all the horrible things the underlings were doing.

    Hence, separate lawyers.
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  21. DeathHamster Member

    They're doing a run on all the lawyer vending machines in Oklahoma, but there must be a shadow team for Scientology to pull the strings of all other lawyers, so that they get their priorities straight when throwing groups under the bus.
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  22. The Wrong Guy Member

    Legal updates

    By Tony Ortega

    One of our legal experts notified us that there’s been a development in the giant National Association of Forensic Counselors lawsuit against Scientology leader David Miscavige and 81 other defendants.

    “The court issued an order granting a joint motion for a unified response date. It is not a mandatory date for all defendants. The motion requested that the court allow defendants to file responses whether or not they had been served. The court ignored that request. Miscavige still has not been served.”

    Continued at
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  23. anon33 Member

    The motion request something that the court ignored. But the court grants the motion. Is the expert or me on something?
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  24. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology litigation update: The Garcias respond, and the NAFC plays hardball

    Now we turn to the massive lawsuit filed against Scientology and its drug rehab network, Narconon, by the National Association of Forensic Counselors. As we pointed out earlier, some of the defendants are being represented by attorneys in Tulsa, other defendants are filing “special appearances” to challenge the Oklahoma federal court’s jurisdiction over them, and some, like Scientology leader David Miscavige, haven’t been served at all.

    But there’s an early drama developing over one defendant in particular, and it got a lot more interesting this week.

    David Lee is co-founder of Intervention Services and Technologies, Inc., and in his motion to dismiss, he said that Intervention Services is an Indiana corporation and his contact with Oklahoma was minimal. We also pointed out that Lee has become known as a significant Narconon whistleblower, posting at sites such as Reaching for the Tipping Point about his change of heart about Narconon’s deceptive practices.

    Now, the NAFC has answered Lee’s motion, and they’ve hit back hard. It turns out that on May 20, just days after the NAFC initially filed its lawsuit, Lee sent a lengthy e-mail to the NAFC’s attorneys, explaining his extensive involvement with Scientology and Narconon, but pointing out that he had become a major critic.

    In the e-mail, Lee describes exactly what NAFC is trying to prove in this lawsuit, that people involved with Narconon obtained NAFC certifications in less than honest ways.

    Since then, he explains, he’s gone on to become an energetic critic of Scientology’s rehab network.

    Continued here:
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  25. fishypants Moderator

    "This lawsuit involves the misappropriation and misuse of Plaintiffs’ logos, trademarks and certifications by Defendants for the purposes of marketing Narconon programs for profits and ultimately promoting the Church of Scientology."

    ^ Nice and clear.

    I can haz exhibits?
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  26. Anonymous Member

    Here are some of the CCDC violators...

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    Attached Files:

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  27. fishypants Moderator



    Thanks - do we have the page from tippingpoint or the email from defendant Lee to NAFC?

    I must say, watching this lawsuit is really quite enjoyable.

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  28. fishypants Moderator

    Also: "Tibor A. Palatinus" ?

    Is he played by William Shatner?
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  29. Ersatz Global Moderator

    Tom Widman has obviously had too much kool aid.
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  30. fishypants Moderator

    Yeah, he looks quite terrifying.

    Also Narconon can't even spell the word "withdrawal" ("Senior Withdraw Officer"?)
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  31. Anonymous Member

    We do now.

    Here's the PDF:

    Attached Files:

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  32. tinfoilhatter Member

    This is the lawsuit that i think is most important, because if narconon loses this, then this opens the grounds for fraud litigation from all their former alumni, and from insurance companies.
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  33. DeathHamster Member

    And it could add a huge damage multiplier to the cases currently piling up. But this one is probably going to move like sex between continents.
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  34. fishypants Moderator

    Nice work. Got the other exhibits?
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  36. Anonymous Member

    Such as?
  37. fishypants Moderator

    refers to this stuff...

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  39. fishypants Moderator

    Oh yeah, absolutely. I couldn't find the exhibits at the Bunker, haven't looked at Tipping Point. Possibly I'm stupidly missing them.

    I'm ok with scribd, but thanks for the offer.
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  40. The Wrong Guy Member

    A lawsuit over counseling credentials now aims at the essence of Scientology

    We have a few legal updates for you, and they involve the lawsuit filed by the National Association of Forensic Counselors against Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon, many of its employees, and Scientology’s leader, David Miscavige, as well.

    A total of 82 defendants are scrambling to deal with the lawsuit, which alleges that they conspired to misuse the counseling certifications that the NAFC regulates. Masterminding the conspiracy, the NAFC alleged in its complaint, was Miscavige from his perch as the Chairman of the Board of the Religious Technology Center (RTC), Scientology’s nominally controlling entity.

    RTC responded by filing a motion to dismiss which is drawn from Scientology’s usual playbook. RTC has nothing to do with Narconon, its attorneys argued in the motion, and it also has no connection to Oklahoma, where Narconon’s flagship facility is and where the lawsuit is set. Former Scientology executives tell us that when the church was restructured in the early 1980s, this was the goal they had in mind — a Byzantine corporate fiction that would enable the top executives to claim no involvement.

    Now, the NAFC has fired back with a reply that takes on that corporate fiction, laying out the entire Scientology strategy, and with voluminous evidence to back it up. It’s one of the most detailed and deeply-researched legal assaults we’ve seen on the church’s essential nature in a long time.

    Continued at
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