Narconon UK

Discussion in 'Think Tank' started by Anonymous, Jul 29, 2012.

  1. DeathHamster Member

    Here's their booklet:
    Here's all of their junk:
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  2. DeathHamster Member

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  3. Anonymous Member

    I'm not pro drugs but to claim marijuana has 400 active chemicals, is addictive and has those side effects on withdrawal is utter bullshit.
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  4. Anonymous Member

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  5. kthnxbai Member

  6. Anonymous Member

    Here's the latest e-mail...

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  7. Anonymous Member

    I could come up with better drug information in a drunken session in the pub than these morons! Heroin is NOT made from opium poppy seeds- the seeds contain very little opiate- it's the seed pod that is scraped and "bled" to create raw opium, it's fucking basic info. "Snorting heroin"- WTF?

    Whilst highly addictive, it's also one of the least toxic drugs- it's addicts lifestyle and varying strengths of supply/ dirty needles that cause most death.

    Going cold turkey then overdosing on niacin whilst sweating in hot saunas for hours is likely to kill a junkie as quickly as the shit they're trying to get off.

    There's nothing like getting drug advice from L ron Hubbard who clearly was on drugs when he came up with Xenu and body thetans!
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  8. Anonymous Member

    I know. The stoopid. It burns! :(
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  9. Anonymous Member

    Anonymous i can provide some intel into narconon uk from previous experiencs there. i have interesting info i can provide but am slightly nervous about things i could write and prove being spread across a forum without feeling comfortable that i would in fact remain anonymous... am i able to send a private message to you so we can talk
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  10. If you are registered as a member on WWP you can send a message to whoever you wish thru your inbox.
    If you are afraid that, by posting information on here, that you will be identified (even if you post it as anon) then do not put yourself in any danger.
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  11. Anonymous Member

    Here's the latest from Narconon UK:

    For those with strong stomachs, here's the link to the video:
  12. DeathHamster Member

    International rock star "Hank von Hell"? Yeah right, better use the hefty sized trash bags.
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  14. Anonymous Member

    So much information is common knowledge amongst narconon staff and residents that it's unlikely they can identify you if you choose your words carefully.

    If you'd prefer, then PMing someone privately probably would be possibly of use - one of the mods perhaps. But the two things that are really needed are personal accounts in the public domain and statements to the charity commission.
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  15. jensting Member

    Also look at the forum on , make up a new e-mail address, use it to register a new alias there and PM the moderators.
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  16. Anonymous Member

    This week's material:
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  17. Anonymous Member

    OH WOW! GOOD FINANCIAL REWARD! Lets all sign up to work for them
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  18. Anonymous Member

    And remember to put a Xenu says no to drugs sticker on every piece of info you post out!
  19. anonysamvines Member

    been away and catching up so apologies and link please if there is a thread on this

    Did the LA police REALLY single out NN Drug Prevention for a commendation?

    If they did, then this needs moar publicity and a public media outing and mocking of their inability to tell factual drug information from nonsense. Along with details of where there information is bogus (most wogs are ill-informed about drugs - i for one never knew how heroin is made apart from vaguely knowing poppies were involved).

    Reputable anti drugs campaigners/workers and reputable rehabs may also be interested. Shit information is not better than nothing to them, it makes their job harder.
    The various drug courts around the country maybe interested too, considering what came out in the Desmond and ongoing cases - after all the LE need to have good working relationships with the court system! I bet a fair few of those LE officers getting those awards were not happy to be associated with NN and Co$ in such a way on their special day
    A public accounting of the reasons (and who made it)for this decision would be lulzy and profitable as well as keeping them on their toes and looking over their shoulder for the consequences of any future awards. Especially considering how

    If not then this needs to be forwarded onto them for a statement and also moar publicity of what lying, using scumbags all . With a detailed reminder of how they awarded themselves the police medal (i forget the proper title right now sorry) after 9/11

    In fact putting together a factual demolition of the scilon's lies and misinformation in Truth About Drugs would be very profitable venture full stop!
    Especially with backing by real science and methodology etc.
    It would be very useful for those trying to educate schools, councils and other bodies/famous peeps to not let the scilons into disseminate their crap.. Very useful. Much easier and more effective than trying to get the uninterested/unaware officials to understand why scilon's are bad and that critics are not just religious bigots/drug peddlars/terrorists and whatever other defamatory garbage they spout.

    Much Much easier and more effective to hand over a nice factual booklet showing their shit for what it is and sticking to purely drug mis/information.
    Much much easier for those decision makers to understand. Also cuts off their ability to claim they weren't aware either.

    Even lulzier if scilons then had to redo all their leaflets, course books etc to reflect this new info (money, stress from yet another angle when they are at full stretch anyway and more info for the critical media to keep repeating ... poor slappy)
    Even lulzier if we could then point out VERY publicly that they had been forced to do it because of those terrorist anons. AND that they had used OUR material to correct their information (we know they would ksw by following LRon and plagiarise).

    just a suggestion (not leaderfagging I would do it myself if I could) for a possible collaboration between those who have drug knowledge and the Production studio.
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  20. RolandRB Member

    I don't get it. Narconon, as we know, are entirely independent from Scientology and just happen to use L. Ron Hubbard's incredibly successful tech for freeing mankind. So why is Able recruiting for them?
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  21. Anonymous Member

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  22. Anonymous Member

    The Latest News...

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    This presents an old video (2010) by quack Dr. David Root, M.D., M.P.H. Occupational Medicine Specialist ...

    ... more quakery from Bobby Wiggins, Narconon Drug Prevention Specialist

    ... and International rock star, Hank von Hell talks about the impact of drugs on society and how the Narconon program helped with his drug addiction, September, 2012:

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  23. Regular ABLE or Secular ABLE?
  24. Can't Scientology buy Anonymous like they purchased the Cult Awareness Network (CAN) and make us a secular tax-exempt charitable organization with all of our Pfizer payments taken in as fixed donations?
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  25. Anonymous Member

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  26. Thank you Night Owl. This is a reminder that those wankers will continue to try to get into schools with their scientology anit-drug bullshit and recruit innocent people who think that they are "helping" into narCONon
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  27. quote="Anonymous, post: 2154527, member: 10537"]I searched WWP but couldn't find all information for Scientology front group Narconon UK in one place.

    Please can people either link to earlier threads or dump any relevant Narconon UK information here.

    I'm looking for anything that can be given to journalists interested in their tax status and what Narconon is doing in the UK.

    Who is running Scientology front group Narconon UK and what are they doing?[/quote]
  28. Anonymous Member

    5MARTZ - New Scientology front group:
    discussed more in this thread here:

    5MARTZ is a new UK scientology front group working in the London area.
    It's similar in the way it operates to their other cult front groups Say No To Drugs Say Yes To Life, Drug-Free UK, Drug-Free UK Marathon; all are connected to scientology's Narconon.
    5MARTZ has 'run workshops' in schools in Newham and in youth groups in South London. They distribute scientology literature to children and teenagers and on their twitter feed they claim to have recruited young people as 'trainers' for 5MARTZ from the youth groups.
    5MARTZ is being run by Natalie Chinya ne Milsom. Scientologists the Lorien family are also involved.
    5MARTZ twitter feed and wordpress site date back to January 2013.
    This is Natalie Chinnya ne Milsom's mother's account of her daughter being recruited into the scientology cult:

    Natalie Chinnya (ne Milsom) was recruited into the cult by her boyfriend - scientologist Anton Lorien.
    Anton Lorien scientology completions:
    Natalie's family have run a campaign to get her out of scientology:

    Natalie Milsom is listed as the main contact for 5MARTS here:
    5MARTZ has teachers and youth workers following them on Twitter.
    There is no mention of scientology on their twitter feed or wordpress site. They do not tell people they are scientologists or of their scientology agenda.
    Scientology is anti-prescription drugs and in particular anti-psychiatry.
    5MARTZ is not a registered charity.
    Scientology's Narconon is under investigation for suspicious deaths and fraud in the USA:
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  29. pedrofcuk Member

    Afaik this is a clam front group operating in the Manchester area. The only online presence I can find is this -

    It might be a good idea for someone to go along to any lectures this guy gives and of course report him to the authorities for not revealing he's a Scilon sympathiser, if not an out and out clam ;)
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  30. Anonymous Member

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    Pete, please take a look at this link, found on the FB site you linked (note: probably scilon) If Narconon cannot operate in the U.K., how can they?
  32. Anonymous Member

    Yeah, scilon/narconon site.

    From the "Getting Off Drugs" Tab:
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  33. Anonymous Member

    Now thinking that this thread should perhaps merge with the Narconon UK Thread:

    Stuff I found on the site posted here:
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    I failed to find a surname anywhere on the site. Cunning cult cunt is cunning.

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    It may be a lot of things but "free" isn't one of them:

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  35. Anonymous Member

    Threads merged
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  36. Anonymous Member


    As most readers of this thread will know, the Dutch Narconon is currently under enhanced supervision from the Health inspection. They allowed patients to go through withdrawal at the Narconon site with their vitamins-but-no-medical-supervision treatment. The Inspection told them not to do this and they did it anyway. The Inspection then put them under supervision.

    Given the strong links between the UK and Dutch Narconon, they may well start to promote this withdrawal at home thing in the Netherlands as well. So thanks for the research! I'll definitely pass the site on to the Dutch Health Inspection.
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  37. Scientology UK: status report
    Scientology in the UK: a status report

    by Chris Owen

    From (Chris Owen)
    Subject Scientology in the UK: a status report
    Date 2 Feb 2002 07:24:29 -0800
    Msg-ID <f758becc​.0202020724​.4cf06788​@posting​.google​.com>
    Newsgroups alt.religion.scientology
    [Links added. -k]
    Four years ago this week, I had a look at the Companies House files on Scientology's corporate entities in Britain. I went back there this week to see how things have changed. For anyone wanting to convert the figures below into dollars or euros, the current exchange rates are £1 = $1.41270 and £1 = EUR 1.63403.
    Scientology's corporate structure in the UK

    Scientology in the UK is represented by seven corporate entities that I know of:
    • Church of Scientology (England and Wales)
    • Church of Scientology Mission of Poole
    • Church of Scientology Religious Education College Incorporated (aka COSRECI)
    • Dianetics and Scientology Mission of Bournemouth Limited (aka DSMBL)
    In addition, a number of associated "front groups" also exist:
    • Association for Better Living & Education
    • Hubbard College of Administration (aka HCA)
    • Greenfields Educational Trust
    • Hubbard College of Administration (aka HCA)
    • Narconon London
    • Nesta Investments Ltd
    • SOR Services (UK) Ltd
    Compared with only a few years ago, however, it's clear that a pretty severe winnowing has occurred. All of the following are now dissolved, most between 1992-95:
    • Church of Scientology Mission of Brighton Ltd
    • Church of Scientology Mission of Leeds Ltd
    • Church of Scientology Mission of York Ltd
    • Church of Scientology of California
    • Church of Scientology of the United Kingdom
    • Dianetics and Scientology Mission of Chichester
    • Dianetics and Scientology Mission of Southampton
    • Dianetics Association Limited
    • Hubbard Association of Scientologists Ltd
    • Hubbard Explorational Company Ltd
    • Scientology Library and Research Ltd
    • Scientology Publications Ltd
    There were also a number of unincorporated missions around the country which no longer exist. Some of this represents tidying up (the Hubbard Association of Scientologists Ltd was inactive for many years prior to being put out of its misery in 1994), some represents consolidation (as in the case of the Mission of Brighton — now part of COSRECI) and some represents genuine failures (as in the case of the Missions of Chicester, Leeds, Southampton and York, none of which now exist).
    The main Scientology body in the UK is COSRECI, a South Australian corporation set up on 19 October 1976 which began activities in the UK on 1 May 1977. It took over management of UK Scientology from the Church of Scientology of California (which was subsequently asset-stripped to prevent Larry Wollersheim from collecting his settlement). It appears to have been set up as a vehicle for getting back-door tax exemption in the UK, which was gained under reciprocal UK-Australian tax rules.
    COSRECI was probably only ever intended to be a temporary home for Scientology's UK assets, until such time as charitable status under UK law could be obtained. Church of Scientology (England and Wales) was the intended recipient of this status (its statement of incorporation constantly refers to it as "The Charity"). In 1999 the Charity Commission rejected Scientology's application for charitable status. As far as I know no appeal against this decision has yet been lodged, or at least reported. In the meantime, Church of Scientology (England and Wales) remains dormant.
    One significant recent success for Scientology has been the acquisition, in October 2000, of exemption from Value Added Tax (VAT, the equivalent of the US General Sales Tax) which I assume was applied to its members' "donations" and its own sales. Scientology had been arguing about the issue with Customs & Excise and the VAT Tribunals since at least 1974 but finally got its own way just over a year ago. This means that, in terms of its tax privileges, it now has pretty much the same privileges as have been awarded in the US. Charitable status is the last major hold-out.
    The Missions of Poole and Bournemouth are the last surviving independently constituted orgs in Britain and have, I think, now combined — the one at Bournemouth is no longer listed. The others, in Birmingham, Brighton, East Grinstead, Edinburgh, London, Manchester, Plymouth and Sunderland are all owned by COSRECI. (One curiosity is that Scotland doesn't permit Scientology to call itself a "church"; the Edinburgh org is officially and somewhat ironically named the "Hubbard Academy of Personal Independence".) In addition, there used to be a whole bunch of other missions around the UK, at least 15; all are now apparently dead. Scientology's physical footprint in the UK is now probably at its smallest since the 1970s.
    Greenfields Educational Trust is the corporate name for Greenfields School, the Scientology school in Sussex which uses Hubbard's "educational technology". I haven't looked at its accounts yet. One thing I have tried to find — in vain — has been some independent assessment of the school's performance. It appears that it has so far managed to avoid being subjected to a government inspection, unlike virtually every other school in the county.
    Narconon London is a new arrival. Quite how it relates to Narconon UK (a separate organisation, and Scientology's only charitable entity) I don't know — I'll have to look into this.
    Nesta Investments and SOR Services (UK) are mysterious entities. Nesta is actually the oldest Scientology entity in Britain, having been established as long ago as 1962 for the purpose of the "holding of investment properties". One of its three directors is listed as G. R. Wilson, who I assume is Graeme Wilson of OSA UK. According to Nesta's accounts for 2000, it's doing little actual business other than a token £1,000 turnover in 1999 and 2000. COSRECI is revealed as Nesta's major (only?) investor, holding £180,003 worth of shares. Nesta is spending next to nothing but has major assets — in 2000, £475,000 of fixed assets and another £393,346 of current assets. What these assets are is not revealed by the accounts, but I suspect that it's either some kind of market investment (perhaps in shares or commodities), or otherwise Scientology's UK properties. The latter would make sense — if a court case resulted in COSRECI's assets being seized, the actual properties would thus be immune.
    SOR Services (UK) is totally opaque. The COSRECI accounts reveal that COSRECI holds £1000 worth of shares in SOR Services, whose business activities are given as "provid[ing] bookkeeping services". It's been suggested that SOR stands for Sea Org Reserve, Scientology's strategic contingency fund, in which case SOR Services is presumably the body which manages the UK element of the reserve. We already know from the US IRS that there's a SOR Services (Cyprus) — Cyprus, like the UK Channel Islands, is a well-known offshore haven for all kinds of murky financial services.
    COSRECI's accounts

    Scientology undoubtedly peaked in the UK in the late 1960s, when Saint Hill was booming and Hubbard was still in residence. At that time, the Saint Hill org alone was raking in over £50,000 a week — in the year 1967-68, the Church of Scientology of California (as it was then) recorded a total income of £1,076,018. In real terms that is probably the most that Scientology has ever earned in the UK. 15 years later in 1982, with the pound worth very much less, income was still only £1,409,990. The figures have improved since then, with a major boost in income following Hubbard's death in 1986. By 1988, turnover had reached £5,262,466. It has remained at around the same level ever since. The most recent figures show a turnover of £5,704,655 in 1999, with an average turnover of £5,569,914 during the eight years between 1992 and 1999.
    The figures in full are as follows (the returns for 1989-91 seem to have been mislaid):
    1982 £1,409,998 £2,767,995
    1983 £2,956,999 £2,750,005
    1984 £2,630,541 £3,973,042
    1985 £1,932,796 £2,332,860
    1986 £2,781,407 £3,318,111
    1987 £3,036,181 £2,147,901
    1988 £5,262,466 £4,717,092
    1989 ? ?
    1990 ? ?
    1991 ? ?
    1992 £4,935,704 £6,661,193
    1993 £5,026,035 £4,840,122
    1994 £6,015,363 £5,523,557
    1995 £5,678,380 £5,012,722
    1996 £6,392,936 £4,518,250
    1997 £5,652,482 £5,520,391
    1998 £5,153,760 £5,411,336
    1999 £5,704,655 £5,951,708
    As the figures show, turnover and expenditure have been very close for many years, with expenditure frequently exceeding income. However, COSRECI is relatively asset-rich — in 1999 it had £10,071,267 in fixed assets and £4,769,365 in current assets, as against liabilities of £1,045,809 owed to creditors. This resulted in a net figure of assets less liabilities of £13,794,823. COSRECI clearly has considerable resources behind it.
    Between 1992 and 1997, the accounts gave the number of employees and the wages bill. Dividing one by the other gives some indication of how much they are being paid on average — not surprisingly, it's a pittance, well below the national minimum wage and below even state unemployment benefit. (Yes folks, you would be better off unemployed than employed by Scientology.) Staff pay is normally the largest single cost element of a business, but Scientology seems to have avoided this particular problem:
    YearEmployeesWagesAverage wage
    per person
    per week
    1992 453 £614,726 £26.10
    1993 444 £596,492 £25.84
    1994 445 £850,452 £36.75
    1995 428 £667,826 £30.01
    1996 426 £559,669 £25.26
    1997 495 £600,935 £23.35
    One curious aspect of the accounts is the huge amounts "due to associated churches":
    YearAssoc Churches
    1982 £3,215,983
    1983 £2,286,608
    1984 £2,030,051
    1985 £3,271,398
    1986 £6,157,295
    1987 £3,135,009
    1988 £4,338,779
    1989 ?
    1990 ?
    1991 ?
    1992 £8,809,208
    1993 £9,256,214
    1994 £9,292,317
    1995 £9,390,808
    1996 £8,621,799
    1997 £9,133,846
    1998 £9,107,817
    1999 £9,524,671
    This presumably represents the flow of money to Scientology's overseas entities, most likely the Church of Spiritual Technology which formally owns Hubbard's works and "licenses" them to the rest of Scientology. It's particularly noteworthy that the amounts "due to associated churches" are considerably in excess of COSRECI's turnover — typically between 130-180% of turnover. How is it financing this deficit? A similar pattern, incidentally, exists in Narconon's accounts — probably not a coincidence.
    Scientology in Bournemouth

    Only two Scientology missions in the UK have survived as independently incorporated entities — those in the neighbouring towns of Bournemouth and Poole on the south coast of England — but they appear to have merged their operations, as the Bournemouth mission is no longer listed as active by Scientology and all the action now seems to be in Poole. The Dianetics and Scientology Mission of Bournemouth Limited (aka DSMBL) was established in 1989 and started trading the following year. However, it's evidently had a lot of financial problems. The figures tell their own story:
    YearTurnoverAdmin ExpDonationsAssets Less
    1989 0 0 0 0
    1990 £34,278 £48,855
    1991 £172,683 £187,250
    1992 £413,176 £515,757 0 £316,149
    1993 £335,659 £726,382 £190,444 £613,768
    1994 £684,057 £542,995 £211,430 £959,111
    1995 £925,050 £665,491 £224 £1,267,872
    1996 £425,075 £342,589 £52,878 £1,412,518
    1997 £299,404 £226,636 £4,284 £1,415,203
    1998 £598,632
    1999 £980,314
    The mission's turnover peaked in 1995 as a result of advance payments made by its members, but at the same time it suffered an extraordinary 99.9% drop in the amount of "donations". It also overspent considerably on several occasions and was clearly lacking in terms of financial management; its auditors refer to poor auditing processes operating within the mission. One consequence of this was a hefty fine of £45,695 for late VAT registration. The result through the mid-90s was a rapidly escalating deficit, peaking in 1997 at 1,415,203.
    In 1998 the mission sacked its auditors and, taking advantage of a provision in the Companies Act, began submitting only "abbreviated accounts". These are the absolute minimum a company can get away with submitting (and then only if it meets certain criteria). Unfortunately — and probably deliberately — the accounts no longer include such mundane things as turnover and expenditure, but they do show the deficit. This showed a drastic improvement — reduced by £816,571 — but how this was achieved is nowhere explained. The financial problems have evidently not been resolved, as the deficit ballooned again by nearly £400,000 the following year.
    The number of employees and their wages are also given for the first five years of the accounts — I've calculated the average weekly wages per employee:
    YearEmployeesWagesWages Per
    Per Week (52)
    1989 0 0 0
    1990 6 £5,540 £17.76
    1991 21 £16,711 £15.30
    1992 43 £59,685 £26.69
    1993 60 £141,027 £45.20
    Having posted these basic details, I'll post a separate analysis of what I think they mean.
    Nosey git, Yesterday at 7:31 PM

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  38. More info can be gathered from Lexus Nexus, Companies House, Land Registry, Local City Councils they keep archived reports of anything related to planning permission, complaints, temporary applications for outdoor displays, you name they'll have it if Narco or Scientology asked for it, or were complained about. etc.Also try register of charities. I have a mountain more and I can give it in time including some more private dox relating to activities in Narconon UK . These are more complex and needed to be treated with care as the confidentiality and safety of one or two is still a delicate situation.
    And I can't sit for long having cancer is a real fucker I can tell you. Want to leak more while still time for me to do it.
  39. Anonymous Member

    Thank you for your reports.

    I'm saddened by your suffering. You're doing yeoman service to many here at WWP and I for one express my gratitude.
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  40. This is the address for the Information Comissioners Office it will provide many useful bits to fill some gaps.

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