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  1. IASREG Member

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  2. Linda Yaron writes as if she is a self promoting con artist.
  3. The Wrong Guy Member

    Here are some related threads:

    Narconon giving lectures to Chicano school kids in Los Angeles? Feb 2011

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...no-school-kids-in-los-angeles-feb-2011.77940/

    Narconon Arrowhead Gives Presentations in Oklahoma Schools Again

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...esentations-in-oklahoma-schools-again.105985/

    Tulsa Oklahoma - Narconon gives lecture to school kids

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...-narconon-gives-lecture-to-school-kids.56780/

    Colorado school mails 8,000 Scientology anti-pot pamphlets to parents

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...ntology-anti-pot-pamphlets-to-parents.107219/

    Anti-drug Pamphlets Linked to Scientology Gone From Santa Ana Police Department

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...gone-from-santa-ana-police-department.102534/

    OPERATION SCHOOL POON - Stop The Infiltration

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/operation-school-poon-stop-the-infiltration.56888/

    Sheriff Baca: "Yes to Scientology"

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/sheriff-baca-yes-to-scientology.63295/

    Here's the search I used to find them:

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=Narconon "Los Angeles" school site:whyweprotest.net
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  4. Django Member

    Pooned....
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  5. In my experience the schools are horrified when Narconon is identified as Scientology. If they do not immediately vomit when that comes to light, the California Board of Education link takes care of it.
    Go team go.
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  6. Anonymous Member

    Ditto!
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  7. Principal: Eftihia Danellis
    701 S. Catalina St., Los Angeles, CA 90005

    (213) 480-4700


    Robert F. Kennedy Community Schools
    701 S. Catalina Street, Los Angeles, CA 90005
    (213) 480-4500 Phone


    Los Angeles Unified School District
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    213-241-0100 Phone
  8. Django Member

    Checking in at 4:30 this afternoon, several hours after Night Owl and I left some info in the comments. No sign of OSA.

    [sparrow voice]

    HUH!

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  9. RightOn Member

    wtf?
    DO YOUR HOMEWORK
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  10. The Wrong Guy Member

    Narconon: Misleading antidrug program back in public schools | SFGate

    By Nanette Asimov, May 25, 2014

    Narconon is back in California public schools.

    The Scientology-linked antidrug program visited classrooms freely for years until 2005, when medical experts and the state Department of Education determined it was promoting bogus science. The alarm went up a decade ago after The Chronicle revealed that Narconon's antidrug messages to students were based not on medical evidence, according to the experts, but on the practices of Scientology.

    Narconon officials say the program is secular and that a firewall exists between it and the Church of Scientology. In fact, the connection to the religion was not readily apparent, a public school teacher told The Chronicle.

    "I'm not in the business of miseducation, so if I know something is wrong I'm not going to keep teaching it," said Heather Rottenborn, who teaches biology and anatomy at Ann Sobrato High in Morgan Hill and was surprised to learn of Narconon's connection to Scientology. Her school has hosted a Narconon lecturer in several classes since at least 2011.

    Narconon is based on concepts developed by L. Ron Hubbard, the late science-fiction writer who created the Church of Scientology and Dianetics in the 1950s. The religion opposes drugs and alcohol, which practitioners believe interfere with achieving a state of mental purity that Scientology calls "Clear."

    The antidrug message and its related notions of how drugs work in the body - including the idea, rejected by medical experts, that drugs reside in body fat for years and can cause people to feel high during times of stress - are part of the Narconon program and drug education materials the group currently makes available online.

    Teacher confusion

    One science teacher from a Bay Area school that has hosted Narconon told The Chronicle that she believed what the lecturers taught her students about drugs residing in body fat.

    "I learned that in my training," the teacher said firmly. "I'm very familiar with that concept."

    She began to have doubts, however, after learning that the state's review had rejected the notion as pseudoscience and that it was an idea from Scientology.

    "I would never have guessed. I need to double-check now," the teacher said, and asked that her name not be used.

    The California Department of Education spent up to $30,000 to review Narconon's claims in 2005 before issuing a strong warning to schools about Narconon.

    "Narconon's drug prevention program does not reflect accurate, widely-accepted medical and scientific evidence," Jack O'Connell, then the state superintendent of public instruction, told schools in a letter posted on the department's website Feb. 24, 2005. Department officials said they stand by those findings today.

    The department lacks the authority to oust programs, but some school districts banned Narconon outright, including Los Angeles and San Francisco, which had its own medical experts review the curriculum.

    Yet Narconon has given free presentations in at least 28 California public schools in other districts since 2007, The Chronicle found.

    Thirteen are in the Bay Area, in Fremont, Los Altos, Morgan Hill, San Jose, San Ramon, Santa Clara and Santa Rosa.

    Narconon officials say the curriculum has been "carefully revised" over the past decade. But they declined to explain how and would not allow a Chronicle reporter to sit in on a lecture. One school that had invited a reporter to sit in on a Narconon presentation canceled it when told of the state's findings.

    The five-page article, with open comments, is here:
    http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/Narconon-Misleading-antidrug-program-back-in-5504351.php
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  11. DeathHamster Member

    Yes! The hinted-at article is now here!
    Categories:
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  12. Man the poons!
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  13. Narconon: Misleading antidrug program back in California public schools

    SF Gate: Narconon: Misleading antidrug program back in public schools
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/forums/narconon.227/

    Excerpts:
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  14. Incredulicide Member

    Interesting way the article is coded on that site. That page is really the entire article and CSS manipulation is used to break it up into five "pages". This is evidenced when putting the page through the Wayback Machine which strips the CSS:
    https://web.archive.org/web/2014052...ing-antidrug-program-back-in-5504351.php#text
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  15. Random guy Member

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  16. DeathHamster Member

    I have a hidden comment explaining why all the Narconons show up as Narconon International on the IRS lookup.
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  17. DeathHamster Member

    http://www.samhsa.gov/data/DASIS/NSSATS2013/NSSATS2013Dir_CD.pdf (big!)

    Here's the ones I found (didn't search for any other names besides Narconon):
    • Narconon Vista Bay 262 Gaffey Road, Watsonville, CA 95076
    • Narconon Colorado A Life Worth Saving 1225 Redwood Street, Fort Collins, CO 80524
    • Narconon Florida Inc 22073 US Highway 19 North, Clearwater, FL 33765
    • Narconon Gulf Coast Inc 3391 Scenic Highway 98 East, Destin, FL 32541
    • Narconon Georgia/Atlanta 5688 Peachtree Parkway, Suite B-1, Norcross, GA 30092
    • Narconon Louisiana New Life Retreat Inc 35059 Bend Road, Denham Springs, LA 70706
    • Narconon Freedom Center 809 West Erie Street, Albion, MI 49224
    • Narconon of Oklahoma Inc Narconon Arrowhead 69 Arrowhead Loop, Canadian, OK 74425
    • Narconon of Oklahoma DBA Arrowhead Medical Detox 1500 South George Nigh Expressway, McAlester, OK 74501
    Georgia and Arrowhead Detox are shut down, I think the Clearwater one closed.
    Narconon Nevada won't be listed because Nevada is an unlicensed free-for-all if they don't take state money. Apparently Narconon Arrowhead is licensed by Oklahoma, but not certified--just that junk CARF one. (So why are they still open?)
    Narconon Vista Bay is licensed by California, but:
    It might be worth looking into the state statuses for the other four, and see if we can poon some of them off the next list.
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  18. th?id=HN.608035359161583586&pid=15.1.jpg th?id=HN.608041741486785550&pid=15.1.jpg th?id=HN.608001394564990566&pid=15.1.jpg
    The New Life Detoxification Program Picture Book

    th?id=HN.608004177697901477&pid=15.1.jpg th?id=HN.607995278529465027&pid=15.1.jpg th?id=HN.608037704210514178&pid=15.1.jpg 'Dr.' L. Ron Hubbard's Narconon is 100% Scientology Quack Science.
    'Dr.' Hubbard purchased his Ph D from phony diploma mill Sequoia University for $200.00 in the early 50's where his Scientology / Narconon research was concocted and expanded upon in his own mind.


    ... Alternatives: New Face of Recovery – Narconon – Scientology
    www.thecleanslate.org
    The Narconon program, ingesting dangerous,
    toxic amounts of Niacin and other insane LRH vitamin concoctions + 5 hour daily overexposures in sauna ...

    $30,000.00 per addict / guinea -pig / 'patient' sent uplines to David Miscavige and Scientology.
    Which part of 'Quack L. Ron Hubbard's Narconon Program is a Medically Dangerous SCAM!' are government agencies and prosecutors having trouble understanding.
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  19. The Wrong Guy Member

    Bay Area Schools Hoodwinked by Scientology-Related Anti-Drug Program | NBC Bay Area

    By Chris Roberts, May 26, 2014

    Religion is banned in public schools, but some Bay Area students may have been exposed to Scientology -- and in an unexpected way.

    Enter anti-drug education.

    An anti-drug program called Narconon relies on teachings of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard for some of its scientific tenets -- which have been debunked, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

    Recent Narconon presentations were given at schools in Fremont, Los Altos, Morgan Hill, San Jose, San Ramon, Santa Clara and Santa Rosa, the newspaper reported.

    Narconon teachers say that drugs reside in body fat "for years," the newspaper reported, and "cause people to feel high during times of stress."

    That's been found to be scientifically unsound by the state, which has warned schools but cannot place an outright ban on Narconon presentations.

    In 2005, a state review also found that Narconon presentations erroneously state that drugs burn up vitamins and nutrients, which leads to relapse as well as the "munchies" in marijuana smokers.

    The same purification process that Narconon drug treatment centers use to purify users, a sauna, is used in the Church of Scientology, the newspaper reported.

    Source, with open comments:
    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...d-by-Scientology-Related-Drug--260707261.html
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  20. Mr. Magoo Member

    I love that they used the word "hoodwinked." ^^^^ Even better that it's in the title.

    Jonathan Turley is doing his part to spread this story:
    http://jonathanturley.org/2014/05/2...ching-narconon-anti-drug-theories/#more-79623

    More at link.
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  21. Jonathan Turley has blogged the story:

    Report: Scientology Back In California Schools Teaching “Narconon” Anti-Drug Theories
    http://jonathanturley.org/2014/05/2...schools-teaching-narconon-anti-drug-theories/

    Excerpt:
    NBC Bay Area also has the story:

    Bay Area Schools Hoodwinked by Scientology-Related Anti-Drug Program
    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...d-by-Scientology-Related-Drug--260707261.html

    Excerpt:
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  22. Mr. Magoo Member

    No kidding.
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  23. The Wrong Guy Member

    Anti-drug group linked to Scientology back in school – for a day | Los Altos Town Crier

    An anti-drug program tied to Scientology reappeared in Bay Area classrooms this school year – including at Los Altos High School – after a decade-long absence.

    Free classroom talks by Narconon made their way back into public high schools throughout the state almost a decade after the state Department of Education rejected the program for promoting phony science. Los Altos High hosted a Narconon presentation during the fall semester for a health class mostly serving 10th-graders.

    According to Barry Groves, Mountain View Los Altos High School District Superintendent, a health teacher received a recommendation for Narconon’s free presentations and invited the group to speak to her class.

    Groves said that an assistant principal at the high school familiar with the program informed teachers that they shouldn’t invite Narconon back after learning of the talk.

    Groves said the district follows a state-adopted health curriculum. Health courses cover illegal drug use, and teachers are given the freedom to invite speakers of their choice to cover the material.

    Groves said that as of now, Narconon is banned from the district and will remain so unless the program receives clearance from the state. “When the state of California sends an advisory against it, I listen to the state,” he said.

    Narconon claims its curriculum has been “carefully revised” over the past decade, according to a report in the San Francisco Chronicle this week. However, the Chronicle – which has covered the school program in depth since 2004 – still found scientific inaccuracies in the current information Narcanon presents to students. One example: That its sauna treatment removes drug residue from body fat.

    For more on this story, see the June 4 print edition of the Town Crier.

    Source, with open comments:
    http://www.losaltosonline.com/news/...inked-to-scientology-back-in-school-for-a-day
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  24. RightOn Member

    "Narconon is banned from the district and will remain so unless the program receives clearance from the state"

    lovely words
    let's hope it stays that way. To even say "unless it receives clearance from the state" makes me cringe.
    Anything parading as a drug treatment program with trumped up success rates and several deaths under their belt AND disseminates Scientology shouldn't EVER be considered for anything PERIOD.
    Do your homework CA!
    Don't know why you tell the kids to do their homework, while you don't practice what you preach AND you are putting kids and their parents in danger by allowing this woo to be heard.
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  25. Random guy Member

    Most teachers have no clue, they are fully preoccupied with teaching the kids English and mathematics and to not kill each other, I don't really blame them for not knowing everything. I guess most just trust their collogues know what they talk about when someone endorsed Narconon. Those offers to come and speak came from somewhere. I have a feeling if someone were to track them back from where they originated, they will find someone who hasn't quite been honest with their affiliations.
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  26. The Wrong Guy Member

    LAHS hosts discredited anti-drug program | Mountain View Online

    State advises against Scientology-connected Narconon program

    By Kevin Forestieri, Mountain View Voice

    An anti-drug program discredited by the state for inaccurate and misleading information continues to make presentations in schools in the Bay Area, including at Los Altos High School last semester.

    Despite being discredited by the California Department of Education in 2005, the Narconon program made a brief appearance at Los Altos High School last semester when a health teacher invited a speaker from Narconon to present to students.

    LAHS Principal Wynne Satterwhite said she and the vice principal later found the report by the state education department characterizing Narconon's information as misleading and inaccurate. Satterwhite said the school has since discontinued any presentations from Narconon.

    The connections to Scientology and the non-scientific information are not all that apparent based on the program's curriculum and website, according to Superintendent Barry Groves. Groves said that on the Narconon website, there's no clear reference to Scientology, and the content on the website is typical drug abuse prevention information. This is likely how the program made its way into LAHS in the first place.

    Narconon is a nonprofit drug abuse and rehabilitation program with an international presence. The website states that the program's rehabilitation methodology was developed by L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of the Church of Scientology. Narconon is also licensed by the Association for Better Living and Education (ABLE), an organization directly established by the church to promote Scientology. Narconon has hosted school presentations for decades.

    In 2005 the California Department of Education got involved. A report by the California Healthy Kids Resource Center found that Narconon's drug prevention program's presentations and resources include information that does not reflect accurate medical and scientific evidence.

    For example, Narconon teaches that drugs burn up vitamins and nutrients, can be stored in body fat to be "released" years later for a delayed high, and marijuana-induced vitamin loss causes the food cravings known as the "munchies." All these theories do not reflect widely accepted medical and scientific evidence, according to the report.

    Narconon also teaches information that is overgeneralized or exaggerated, according to the report. They teach that drugs are poison, drugs are only used to "avoid problems," and drugs ruin creativity and dull senses.

    Along with Los Altos High School, nine high schools in Santa Clara County have invited Narconon speakers into classrooms since 2007, according to an in-depth report on the organization by the San Francisco Chronicle.

    Source, with open comments:
    http://mv-voice.com/news/2014/05/30/lahs-hosts-discredited-anti-drug-program
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  27. RightOn Member

    Teachers are teaching our children, they should check everyone out who steps foot in our schools
    They take away soda out of the soda machines, but let vultures in to talk to the kids.
    Homework bitches... do your homework.
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  28. The Wrong Guy Member

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  29. Anonymous Member

    The article is substantially negative about NN in schools and makes the case for the solid connection with scientology.

    It's almost as hard-hitting as Nanette Asimov's article in the San Francisco Chronicle!

    Disqus comment thread is open. I'm surprised that the Bunkerites aren't piling on at this point.
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  30. DeathHamster Member

    The Foundation for a Drug Free World would be more convincing if their claimed address (1626 Wilcox Ave, Los Angeles, CA, #1297) wasn't clearly a rental postbox place. That's even the address on their Form 990, is that allowed?
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  31. Anonymous Member

    Excellent point you've contributed to the comment thread:

    Drug Free World doesn't just have connections with the Church of Scientology, it is the Church of Scientology. It's the same program, the same people, same command structure. They just play dress-up pretend, change their ball caps from religious to secular, and hope no one notices.

    I've examined about a dozen and a half NN 990s. Can't recall if a rental postbox was ever used as an address. I'll run the available addresses and check those out.
  32. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology infiltrating NYC’s schools — where have we heard this before?

    City Limits, a public affairs magazine in New York, has an interesting story about a Scientology front group, Foundation for a Drug Free World, making a concerted effort to get into the city’s schools for presentations of L. Ron Hubbard’s wacky and unscientific ideas about drug addiction.

    It’s a good piece, and reminds us of when we went over the same material more than a year ago.

    We hope even more New York publications grab this story as well. Do it for the kids!

    Mark your calendars

    Just in: We’ve learned that Carnegie Mellon University professor Dave Touretzky will be appearing on a radio program next month to talk about Narconon and its repeated infiltration of California’s schools.

    The good professor will be on the air Sunday, July 6 at 4:15 to 5:00 pm on the Mister Mom radio show on KSCO AM 1080 in Santa Cruz.

    We’re told that Narconon has been invited to appear, and we’ll be interested to see if they have the fortitude to take on Touretzky.

    http://tonyortega.org/2014/06/26/sc...eo-to-get-you-to-sign-up-for-a-billion-years/
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  33. New York Magazine: Scientology Sneaking Its Anti-Drug Programs Into NYC Schools
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/06/scientology-sneaking-drug-programs-into-schools.html

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  34. Morgan Hill Times: Mister Mom Radio - Scientology at Ann Sobrato High
    http://www.morganhilltimes.com/cale...ent_809e7372-019b-11e4-a690-101f742c1d2e.html

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  35. Quentinanon Member

    This NarCONon speaker has a great deal to say
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  37. The Wrong Guy Member

    What is the Church of Scientology Teaching in Our Schools? | Alternet

    A drug education program associated with the Church of Scientology has visited dozens of New York City schools, making medically unfounded statements about drugs.

    By Robert Martin Wolfe, July 7, 2014

    By its own estimate, Foundation for a Drug Free World, an education non-profit, has visited at least 20 percent of New York City's schools, public and private. That's over 14,000 children, it says, mainly in disadvantaged schools in outer boroughs. Drug Free World has won accolades from the City Council and the state Senate and been featured by over a dozen local publications, including the Daily News.

    But in two recent presentations witnessed by a City Limits reporter, the organization—which is connected to the Church of Scientology—presented information on the dangers of drug abuse that had little basis in fact and could be traced to the works of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

    Continued at www.alternet.org/education/what-church-scientology-teaching-our-schools?paging=off&current_page=1
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  38. jensting Member

    Aaand they respond, here: http://www.citylimits.org/blog/blog...sored-anti-drug-program-responds#.U7Qn-qjSxe4
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