Narconon Arrowhead Takes In Stranded

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by Intelligence, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. Zak McKracken Member

    Narconon Arrowhead "Graduates"
    Class of 2009-2012

    Hillary Holten
    April 11, 2012

    Gabriel Graves
    November 4, 1978
    October 26, 2011

    Kaysie Werninck (r)
    Feb 18, 1981
    March 3, 2009
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  2. Intelligence Member

    Finally, the USA media is growing some balls - - not 'Balls of Steel" yet, but I'll
    concede harder and tougher that a certain wee "leader" (small Cap intended),
    who hides theirs behing a life of lies and brutality.

    I'll give the Media an "Oak-Wood" toughness - - and that's excellent in my books:)

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  3. Zak McKracken Member

    re: Kaysie Werninck

    developed an upper respiratory infection while in "treatment" at Narconon.
    Requested medical help, repeatedly. Requests denied by NN staffers.
    Eventually stopped breathing.

    Sent to nearest hospital (Epic Medical Center / Community Hospital Lakeview)
    which may have lacked the facilities for emergency care she needed.
    Died of double pneumonia.

    Parents sued the hospital + Narconon.
    It appears the hospital *might* have been dropped from the suit.
    unclear courtroom shenanigans:

    case re: NN settled 04/28/2011
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  4. moarxenu Member

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  5. They could rename this museum..................

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  6. Xenu Is Lord Member

    Has anyone contacted this Sheriff with Docs? Think he need to see the written amounts of Niacin and vitamins these people are taking.
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  7. Anonymous Member

    someone set up us the drug bomb

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  8. BlooAnon Member

    All your Orgs are belong to us.
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  9. Intelligence Member

    In Com with a lawyer in the USA a few minutes ago. Better hang onto "yer" nuts
    we're about to squeeze a wee bit more soon - - very soon.

    My "Mascot" :)
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  10. Intelligence Member

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  11. Anonymous Member

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  12. anon walker Moderator

    Perhaps it would be a good idea to find out who here has a NN in their county, province or prefecture. Locals can get together to do things like court doc research, photography, etc. Narconon Warner Springs is in my county. Volunteers?
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  13. Intelligence Member

    I'm just doing research on medical terms for one of my book chapters
    and this is WHY Arrowhead should NOT have a Medical Detox, never
    mind being open - - PERIOD!!!

    I had a Seizure while at NN TR and could have died, Ambulances took others away to hospital emergency. I was just NOT.
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  14. Intelligence Member

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  15. Intelligence Member

    We're not going to "Blow the Whistle", we're going to BLAST the Frickn'
    horn as loud as a USA Aicraft Carrier blows theirs coming into Port:)

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  16. David, you should break the link at the bottom of message #94 or issue a warning.
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  17. Intelligence Member

    Ok, I figured out how to Break Links now:) Me happy. Tx Jacky.

    Is that OK, the way I did it???
  18. mongrel Member

    The ronbots were not warmly received when they invaded OK. They finally succeeded after using their usual techniques of subterfuge, fair game, and legal harassment. About 20 years ago, several articles were published in The Oklahoman by a seasoned journalist who chronicled the episode.

    FYI, he still works there. McNutt

    Also, the publisher who was sued during the invasion has retired. He last wrote an article for his paper last year. Dunno if he's still alive but I'm certain the current publisher of the Newkirk Herald could put you in touch if he is.
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  19. Anonymous Member

    Community acquired "double pneumonia" or infection in two lobes of the lung is usually due to pneumococcus, which thankfully remains sensitive to our old friend, penicillin.

    An infection in one lobe is easily cured with antibiotics. Two lobes is much more risky. But a young person who is basically in good health will likely recover in the hospital.

    Anyone sick with a fever and breathing fast like they can't get enough air needs to go to the ER.
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  20. Zak McKracken Member

    not sure what the timeline was between the point Werninck detected she was ill,
    when Narconon detected she was ill, when they shipped her out, and when she died, but
    part of the allegations were that she was denied medication of some sort along the way.

    Penicillin? If so, it would seem to be pretty straightforward case of malpractice.

    Not sure if this place has a proper ER. They're a pretty small operation.
    The staff onsite appear to be:
    This is the place where Kaysie Werninck died, but it's also the closest hospital to Narconon.
    14 miles North of NN
    The MSW might have some interesting dox on Narconon inmates, visiting over the years....

    McAlester Regional Health Center is far better staffed, and has its own inpatient mental health facility. It's 20 miles south of NN.

    Could be, Narconon offered Kaysie the same "quality of care" as Lisa McPherson, sending her to a poorly equipped facility who couldn't save her, rather than a better equipped facility where she risked Psyche intervention.
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  21. Yup, that will do it!
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  22. Intelligence Member

    Still writing away - must meet deadline,..., ROFLMAO:):):)

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  23. Anonymous Member

    Hold your breath. It's a good reminder of how little time you have to respond to someone who is having increasing difficulty breathing.

    Substance abuse staff aren't doctors. But they should know how to count breaths per minute and they should know that trouble breathing is a 911 call. An ambulance will bring supplemental oxygen and staff capable of performing an emergency intubation in the field.
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  24. Intelligence Member

    Grrrrrrrr!!! You have no idea how angry this ^^^ negligence makes me. It's ironic that I'm
    writing the chapter right this minute, about what happened to me and others while in the
    withdrawal unit. I was going to post an Excerpt, but it will be published very soon and I want
    it to take the COS/OSA by surprise, so I won't post it.

    But suffice to say, that some could easily have died, including me. It was a horror show from day one with
    no medical staff or even qualified nurses. In ,my opinion, it's CRIMINAL!

    And then to top if off, there was staff induced patient trauma by way of,....., Grrrrrr!

    <<<Tongue Bites>>>

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  25. BigBeard Member

    I believe "Practicing medicine without a license" on the part of NarCONon would be a better description than "malpractice".

    Malpractice implies a real doctor did something wrong, which I don't believe is the case here. This is more a case of NarCONon waiting too long with a case of double pneumonia before going to the hospital. So by the time they got there it was too late for the doctors to have much chance of saving her.

    Which is why I've been writing Congress critters for some time demanding Federal standards, including having a real doctor on staff, for ALL in patient detox/rehab centers. The mish-mash of State and Local laws and rules, if any, for these facilities just isn't cutting it. Not when places like NarCONon exist.

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  26. Zak McKracken Member

    I probably don't know the proper words to describe what Narconon did for / did to these people.
    I do have a suspicion that whatever they did was probably not the right thing.

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  27. Intelligence Member

    Can only post excerpts to avoid getting my ass sued. Looking for Practicing Medicine Without Licence.

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  28. Anonymous Member

    FYI, he still works there. McNutt
    (405) 475-3311 ext. 3305
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  29. anon walker Moderator

    Nah, they just need a touch assist to clear them thetans out of the bronchii and trachea. I believe the technical term is "a clusterfuck of thetans."
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  30. anon walker Moderator

    That's an excellent idea. We need to get that candle lit by starting with the media. Surely a story about Narconon's medical malfeasance and tendency to play doctor resulting in a string of deaths is newsworthy!

    After all, drug addiction is a huge problem in this country, which suggests Narconon is endangering the health of numerous people as well as scamming their parents out of thousands of dollars.

    Have you gotten any response?
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  31. anon walker Moderator

    Does anyone plan to contact him? I only ask because I don't want to inundate the guy with email from random people.
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  32. BigBeard Member

    Anon Walker,

    Mostly just "Thank you for your communication" form letters, and a few saying NN 'appeared to be complying with applicable laws'.

    I'm hoping there'll be enough attention on the NN Arrowhead situation, on top of what's going on in Canada (especially if NarCONon Int gets dragged kicking and screaming in to Canadian court) that Congress will not be able to keep ignoring what's going on under their noses much longer.

    But, as much as I hope for that, I suspect it will be like trying to get a traffic light installed at a dangerous intersection. Even though one is too many, until there are so many deaths it can't be ignored any more I don't think anything will happen on Capital Hill. So we'll just have to keep plugging away one state at a time.

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  33. Intelligence Member

    Sad as it is, the Feds are reluctant to act. They could if they decided to, but NOT!

    Unfortunately, there WILL be more deaths - - but how many before action?

    I will be releasing about 100 pages of documents to Media end of this week that
    will certainly perk some ears - - but in the USA's ears? I doubt it unless one of the
    most powerful entities in the world takes action. I will post who this is next Sunday.

    The closing of NN TR was a big win, but in my opinion, only to the point of knowing
    that something CAN be done with enough constant pressure:)

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  34. Anonymous Member

    I heard the Colin Henderson is going to NN arrowhead country this weekend, and maybe visit with some Canadian, OK and McAlester, OK city officials..........
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  35. Intelligence Member

  36. Anonymous Member

    Yeah, that's on for sure!
  37. patriot75 Member

    It's going to be fun!!!!!!!! I haven't been down there since 2007, been waiting a long time.......:)
  38. Quentinanon Member

    Like David Miscavige says, "Something can be done about it."
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  39. Anonymous Member

    I think I'll come by as I'll be in the area. Staying at -

    American Cabins
    Rr 5 Box 166
    Canadian, OK 74425
    (918) 339-4964
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  40. Anonymous Member

    I am sure glad to hear this, and I will pm Colin to see if we can coordinate schedules. I belong to an informal group of Christian ministers and lay people in the US and Canada concerned about Scientology. We don't have a name yet but consider ourselves to be a kind of "Christians United Against Satan and Scientology" outfit.

    I have been planning to come over to McAlester for discussions with some ministers. One thing we are working on is an annual interfaith memorial service for victims of Narconon Arrowhead.

    I am looking forward to meeting up and perhaps attending service with you at one of the Baptist churches in town, Colin. And God bless the fine young men and women of Anonymous who have been exposing the lethal dangers of Scientology and Narconon and their threat to Christian and other parents and children.
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