My Scientology Movie - Louis Theroux documentary

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  1. Tony Ortega has a story on Mark "Marty" Rathbun's takedown of Louis Theroux's My Scientology Movie.

    Tony Ortega: As Louis Theroux’s Scientology movie hits theaters, its main subject accuses it of deception

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    Less than a week after he tore into Ron Miscavige’s memoir Ruthless for its harsh portrayal of Ron’s son, Scientology leader David Miscavige, Rathbun has now published a lengthy and detailed takedown of how My Scientology Movie was made, accusing its makers of being dishonest. (Theroux’s movie opens on October 10 in the UK, and in the US in January.)

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  2. VIDEO: Steven Mango responds to Marty Rathbun's allegations about Louis Theroux’s movie re: Scientology.

    Exposing the Lies of Marty Rathbun | My Scientology Movie

    Steven Mango
    Published on Sep 6, 2016

    I expose the truth behind what happened on set between Marty Rathbun and the BBC on the film set of My Scientology Movie. In My Scientology Movie, I discuss my story, as well as performed in reenactment scenes of experiences of others within the Church.

    Marty Rathbun posted a blog discrediting the BBC and My Scientology Movie. However, I was on set with Marty and I tell the truth of how it was actually working on set with Mr. Rathbun.

    Marty's Blog:
    Tony Ortega's Blog:
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  3. The Wrong Guy Member

    Louis Theroux's Scientology movie isn't one of his best

    By Jake Wilson, Sydney Morning Herald


    Spectacled, unsexy, a bit pedantic, Louis Theroux incarnates the stereotype of the Englishman Abroad, like a modern version of the kind of character who used to turn up in novels by Evelyn Waugh. Of course, the real Theroux is stronger-willed and less easily embarrassed than his TV persona: in his BBC documentaries he's able to immerse himself in various outre subcultures, from porn to white supremacy, without budging from his commitment to British common sense.

    Depending on the subject-matter, his mild yet dogged approach can yield some interesting results. But this big-screen documentary on Scientology — directed by John Dower, not one of Theroux's regular collaborators — is far from his finest hour. The immediate problem is that none of the current big cheeses in the movement are prepared to give Theroux the time of day. That leaves him relying on ex-believers with axes to grind, in particular former chief executive Mark Rathbun, a burly guy in his late fifties who you wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of.

    Driving round LA, Theroux lends a willing ear to Rathbun's tales of Scientology's toxic inner circle, with Rathbun himself emerging as a bully second only to church leader David Miscavige. It's hard not to be fascinated by the sheer weirdness of what seems closer to a deranged scheme than a religion in the conventional sense. But much of this material has been canvassed elsewhere — notably in Alex Gibney's recent documentary Going Clear — and major revelations are few.

    Other scenes involve the staging of re-enactments of Rathbun's stories: various actors audition for the role of Miscavige, with Rathbun passing judgement on their resemblance to the real thing. This device is lifted from Joshua Oppenheimer's widely admired The Act of Killing, where those involved in Indonesia's anti-Communist purges were called on to re-enact their crimes. But the stakes here are considerably lower, and Dower and Theroux can't hope to match the disturbing power of their model.

    The rest is padding, including the expected scenes where irate officials order the crew to stop filming and Theroux fights back with his usual earnest pretence of good faith. A special shout-out to American actor Paz de la Huerta (Boardwalk Empire) who shows up unexpectedly near Rathbun's pool, leading Theroux to ponder whether she might be the bait in a "honey trap". Whatever the truth of this, it's good to see her keeping busy during lulls in her acting career.

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  4. The only word that fuckwit Jake Wilson didnt regurgitate was APOSTATES. I bet my letter to the editor doesnt get published.
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  5. Incredulicide Member

    Jake Wilson cookie cutter Scientology page (proxied through

    Jacob B. Wilson, $10,000 donation:
    Jacob B. Wilson ||Sponsors for Total Freedom|| Impact 99 || 2002-03-01

    J.B. Wilson completions:
    J. B. Wilson ||FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT BOOK COURSE|| The Bridge (Sydney Org) no number || 2009-08-01
    EDIT: The reviewer's site is registered to a name with a different middle initial.
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  6. Louis Theroux at his very best with My Scientology Movie

    The movie gets 3 1/2 stars.

    Herald Sun: Louis Theroux at his very best with My Scientology Movie

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    While Rathbun is well-known around the world as an outspoken critic of Scientology — and has participated in many docos and TV programs in the past — his own complicity in some very unsavoury incidents in the past remains open to question.

    To his credit, Theroux keeps pressing Rathbun with that question, and his angry responses point My Scientology in yet another intriguing direction.

    Though Theroux obviously knew what he was in for by addressing such a hot-button topic as Scientology, his shock and confusion in moments of extreme duress are genuine (as is his determination to at least attempt a balanced assessment of his subject.)

    It can sometimes be amusing viewing, but like Theroux’s finest TV work, it is always both revealing and disturbing in equal measure.

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  7. The harm that Marty has done.

    Below is an example of the harm Marty has done.

    Yahoo: Louis Theroux's Scientology Documentary Accused Of 'Deception'

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    Marty Rathbun, the former high-ranking Scientology executive who is the subject of Louis Theroux’s new feature-length documentary, has accused the filmmakers of deception.

    Rathbun, who was at one time right hand to the church’s leader David Miscavige and ‘audited’ Tom Cruise, says that Theroux and Oscar-winning producer Simon Chinn used him as ‘bait’ with which to ‘incite the wrath of the Church of Scientology’.

    Rathbun has been a vocal critic of Miscavige church since he left it in 2004, often using his blog Moving On Up A Little Higher as an outlet for his criticisms.

    But in a post on the site, he’s savaged Theroux and Chinn, who was behind documentaries including ‘Man On Wire’ and ‘Searching For Sugar Man’.

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  8. sallysock Member

    Well this is interesting...


    Appears as though he has a mad at Mike.
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  9. The Wrong Guy Member

    Louis Theroux’s ‘My Scientology Movie’ Down Under

    By Tony Ortega, September 9, 2016


    Last year, on our book tour, we went to the far end of the earth — namely, the city of Perth, Australia — and met Bunker readers Ella Raitch and What’sup, pictured above with your proprietor and Ella Raitch’s son.

    Yesterday, Ella Raitch took her daughter, who she’s calling Ellette, to see Louis Theroux’s My Scientology Movie on the opening night of its theatrical run in Australia. She posted this account of the film last night very late in our comments, and we wanted to make sure everyone got a chance to see it.

    Continued here:
  10. The Wrong Guy Member

    My Scientology Movie: Release date of new Louis Theroux documentary announced, new trailer released | The Independent


    A release date for Louis Theroux's big-screen documentary My Scientology Movie has finally been released months after acquiring UK distribution.

    Fans have been wondering when they would get to see the film following it screening at last year's London Film Festival and its international debut at Tribeca in April .

    They'll be happy to know there is now less than a month to wait: Theroux himself is to participate in a nationwide broadcast live Q&A with Adam Buxton on 7 October followed by the film's general release on 10 October.

    Continued here:
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  11. The Wrong Guy Member

    Physically Assaulted by Scientology in Hollywood

    Steven Mango, September 14, 2016

    I was physically assaulted twice in one night on Hollywood Boulevard by a staff member of the Church of Scientology Testing Center as I was peacefully protesting the abuse of their organization. The police got involved and I describe the details on what happened that evening and what is happening with the case as of late.

    For more information and photos regarding this incident, please see Tony Ortega's blog:
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  12. fishypants Moderator

    * gasp! *
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  13. Louis Theroux's My Scientology Movie has been pulled from the Port Townsend Film Festival.

    This was first reported by phenomanon on ESMB:

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    I just checked the Program for the Port Townsend Film Festival, and discovered that "MY Scientology Movie" was no longer scheduled for Sunday night. I called them up and I was told that the Film had been cancelled. That it was pulled by Magnolia Pictures, the Distributor. That the Film had been pulled from all the Theaters. WTF!!!

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    The Port Townsend Film Festival website confirms the showing has been canceled:


    Further confirmation the Port Townsend Film Festival has cancelled and replaced My Scientology Movie. The Google cached version of the festival's Events page lists "Movie Meet Andrew Perez following My Scientology Movie." The current version of the page omits that event.

    Compare the current version of:

    With Google cached version of the page:


    Madman Films responded by effectively confirming the cancellation but stating the movie is "still showing in select Australian cinemas."


    Madman Films further responded:


  14. The Wrong Guy Member

    About that ‘My Scientology Movie’ cancellation

    By Tony Ortega, September 21, 2016


    Last night alarm bells went off around the various forums about Louis Theroux’s My Scientology Movie being pulled from the Port Townsend Film Festival. The festival organizers themselves said the film was pulled by Magnolia Pictures, the movie’s American distributor. Naturally, that caused some worry — was the film under a legal onslaught from Scientology?

    Well, we heard back from the Theroux camp that the film being pulled was an unfortunate result of a contract glitch between the BBC (which produced the film) and Magnolia, and that it had nothing to do with outside forces (i.e. Scientology lawyers, etc.).

    So we will hope this was just an unfortunate event that won’t affect the film’s opening in the UK next month and the US in January.

    If we hear differently, we’ll let you know.

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  15. Louis Theroux's My Scientology Movie gets a Ralph Steadman poster.
    Empire: Louis Theroux's My Scientology Movie gets a Ralph Steadman poster

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    Louis Theroux's first theatrical release has been a long time coming, so it deserves something a little special to usher it to the big screen. This new poster by Ralph Steadman, iconic cover designer for Hunter S. Thompson, should do the trick. The film getting the gonzo treatment, of course, is My Scientology Movie. Take a look below.


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  16. The Wrong Guy Member

    It looks like Louis Theroux's My Scientology Movie won't get an Irish release due to blasphemy laws |


    The film has a UK distributor, Altitude and is set to be released over there on October 14th. However as we reported earlier this year, an Irish distributor has yet to be confirmed and it's looking likely that none will be.

    The main stumbling block seems to be Ireland's blasphemy laws and in particular the The Defamation Act of 2009. According to that piece of legislation, any "publication or utterance of blasphemous matter" against any religion is an offence and carries a fine of €25,000.

    The Act does allow for a defence of work that has "genuine literary, artistic, political, scientific, or academic value", which this documentary most likely will have. However it looks like there aren't any distributors willing to take a chance on the film for fear that they could be found to be in breach of the legislation.

    Alex Gibney's 2015 Scientology documentary, Going Clear had similar problems and did not secure an Irish theatrical release.


    Graham Spurling, the owner of Movies@Dundrum, Movies@Swords, Movies@Gorey and SGC Dungarvan has confirmed on Twitter that the film will not get an Irish release and has suggested that the blasphemy law may be to blame though he cannot speak for the distributors.
  18. My Scientology Movie: Louis Theroux documentary unlikely to get Ireland release due to blasphemy laws.

    The Independent - My Scientology Movie: Louis Theroux documentary unlikely to get Ireland release due to blasphemy laws

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    Louis Theroux fans hoping to watch My Scientology Movie in Ireland look set for disappointment as the country’s blasphemy laws threaten to keep it from cinemas.

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  19. Ireland's blasphemy laws unlikely to prevent Louis Theroux's Scientology film from being released here.

    The Journal IE: Ireland's blasphemy laws unlikely to prevent Louis Theroux's Scientology film from being released here

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    However, a legal expert has said that in his opinion there is no way an Irish screening of the documentary about Scientology could lead to a prosecution on the basis of blasphemy.

    Dr Neville Cox of Trinity College, a specialist in the Defamation Act, has said categorically that “there is no blasphemy case here”.
    Cox said that the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) would never bring such a case and that no judge in the land would go near it.

    It wouldn’t even get to a jury.

    He cited section 36 of the Defamation Act which allows for work to be published or uttered which has “genuine literary, artistic, political, scientific, academic value”, and suggested that the documentary would fall under these parameters.

    He also doubted that the documentary would qualify as “grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion” in this case.

    A more real risk, he said, would be a group defamation suit. However, Cox also cast doubt on that outcome, and said that it would have to proven that the documentary defamed one person or an identifiable group of people.

    Film classification

    Graham Spurling, owner of Movies at Dundrum, Swords, Gorey and SGC Dundgarvan, told that the situation came to light this weekend, and that he had received emails from the film’s distributor Altitude Film Distribution on the issue.

    Spurling said: “All I know is that it is not being released in Ireland at the moment. I would love it to be released now because it would pack the place.” He said that things may change and he does not want to be critical of the distributor. contacted IFCO earlier today, which said it had not heard anything about the film and that it hadn’t been given it to classify.

    The length of time a distributor would give IFCO to classify the film before its release may vary, and it doesn’t take more than a day or two to classify a film.

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  20. The Wrong Guy Member

    Why Ireland won’t ‘ban’ Louis Theroux’s Scientology film

    A speculative media story has suggested a new documentary could ‘might’ be banned under Ireland’s blasphemy laws. It won’t.

    By Donald Clarke, The Irish Times


    Dr Neville Cox, associate professor of Law at Trinity College Dublin, told The Irish Times: “There are three reasons why the blasphemy laws are of no relevance here.” It is significant, he agrees, that the state does not define the Church of Scientology as a religion with charitable status.

    “Secondly, for blasphemy it has to deal with issues held sacred by a religion and, thirdly, there is an exception within the blasphemy laws for something that is of literary, political, artistic or scientific merit. There is no way a documentary could not fall under that.”


    This week’s chatter has, however, focused almost exclusively on the blasphemy legislation. Professor Cox explains: “My view is the 2009 act fulfilled a constitutional obligation on the crime of blasphemy, but skilfully rendered the law completely unenforceable. I am not saying that was the intention.”

    My Scientology Movie opens in the UK on October 7th. It will be broadcast on the BBC at a later date. The inflated controversy will do the film no harm at all.
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  21. The Wrong Guy Member

    This is from Ireland, related to the post above:

    A date for the blasphemy referendum still hasn't been decided on


    Today is International Blasphemy Rights Day, where campaigners call for people to ”show solidarity with those who challenge oppressive laws and social prohibitions against free expression, to support the right to challenge prevailing religious beliefs without fear of violence, arrest or persecution”.

    The Center for Inquiry says:

    “While many perceive “blasphemy” as offensive, this event is not intended to ridicule and insult others. Rather, it was created as a reaction against those who would seek to take away the right to satirize and criticize a particular set of beliefs given a privileged status over other beliefs.”

    The Humanist Association of Ireland (HAI) is today calling on the coalition government and all political parties, TDs and senators, to repeal the blasphemy law, the 2009 Defamation Act, by supporting a referendum to remove references to God from the Irish constitution (Article 40.6.1.i).

    HAI Campaigns Director Terry Flynn noted that under the 2009 Defamation Act blasphemy is a crime punishable with a fine of up €25,000.

    “We are now asking all political parties, all TDs and Senators – to repeal this anachronistic blasphemy law by supporting a referendum to remove references to God from the Irish constitution,” said Flynn.
  22. The Wrong Guy Member

    My Scientology Movie: Louis Theroux's exposé is the most damning yet | The Guardian

    The documentarian found a typically offbeat way to infiltrate the church’s secretive world but the result is just as powerful and evocative as Going Clear.

    Last paragraph:

    ...My Scientology Movie belongs in the company of the most serious work done on the church. The more sunlight that falls on this dark organisation, the better for all of us.
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  23. Louis Theroux crowned BBC Grierson Trustees' Award winner at the 2016 British Documentary Awards.

    Grierson Trust: Louis Theroux crowned BBC Grierson Trustees' Award winner at the 2016 British Documentary Awards

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    London, 30th September 2016: Documentary maker and presenter Louis Theroux will be honoured with the prestigious BBC Grierson Trustees' Award at the 2016 British Documentary Awards.


    Earlier this year, the BBC broadcast his A Different Brain and Drinking to Oblivion which has also earned him a nomination in this year's Best Documentary Presenter category. His latest project Louis Theroux: Savile will broadcast on BBC Two this weekend and My Scientology Movie opens at cinemas across the UK next week.

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  24. The Wrong Guy Member

    What Happens If You're Stalked By Scientologists? | Grazia

    Louis Theroux’s new documentary, My Scientology Movie, premieres this week, shining further light on many of the bizarre and sinister allegations about the religion that counts Tom Cruise as its second in command. Grazia’s Emily Maddick reports on her decade-long pursuit by the church.
  25. The Wrong Guy Member

    Louis Theroux's My Scientology Movie Leaks Online Before UK/US Theatrical Release | TorrentFreak


    Louis Theroux's much-anticipated upcoming movie investigating The Church of Scientology has been leaked online ahead of its UK/US theatrical release. My Scientology Movie, which was funded by the BBC, appeared on torrent sites a few hours ago in perfect quality.

    Just a few hours ago, Theroux’s latest offering appeared online and began spreading across torrent and file-hosting sites alike. TF is informed that the release first appeared on a fairly well-known private tracker. However, we were unable to confirm that before publication so have omitted its name from this report.

    According to numerous sources, the theatrical release has a duration of 99 mins and this ‘pirate’ copy lives up to that billing, indicating that this indeed the full movie intended for release later this week.

    Also noteworthy is the quality of the release. Often leaked ‘cam’ versions appear online in the days after a commercial release but this is an almost perfect copy, something that will be of concern to the movie’s funders at the BBC.

    The big question now is where the copy originated from. Sometimes so-called DVD screeners provide the kind of quality we’re looking at here but in this case, the people behind the release indicate that the movie was captured from a ‘WEB Rip’ source, i.e some kind of streaming system available over the web.

    Two separate sources indicate the movie has been ripped from iTunes.

    Here's the full article:
  26. The Wrong Guy Member

    My Scientology Movie, review: Louis Theroux finally meets his match | The Independent

    This crafty, enjoyable and illuminating documentary comes at the Church Of Scientology from an unexpected angle. Louis Theroux is not a polemicist, out to attack Scientology. Instead, he portrays himself as a curious bystander, simply trying to understand the inner workings of the Church regarded by many as a cult.
  27. PODCAST - Louis Theroux: Journalists viewed as enemies by Scientology.

    News Talk ZB: PODCAST - Louis Theroux: Journalists viewed as enemies by Scientology

    Audio at link.

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    Filmmaker Louis Theroux joins Larry Williams on the Mike Hosking Breakfast to discuss his new film - an expose on the secretive Church of Scientology.

    'My Scientology Movie' covers Theroux's attempts to shed some light on David Miscavige's group, and allegations of abuse and brainwashing among Scientology.

    However, he explains Scientologist aren't particularly welcoming to outsiders, especially journalists.

    Theroux said during the making the movie he came to realise that "they are genuinely capable of being very nasty, and I've had little glimpses of it, and it's not nice."

    "When you feel that you're exposed and they might have something that will make you very uncomfortable in some way, and they use it against you, it can be very frightening."


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  28. Incredulicide Member

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  30. The Wrong Guy Member

    Critics Deam Louis Theroux's 'My Scientology Movie' As Flawed But Enjoyable |

    His new documentary takes a highly unusual approach

    My Scientology Movie review – Louis Theroux gets smart with the cult church | The Guardian

    All sorts of weird stuff starts happening as Theroux reiterates the sheer nastiness of the organisation in his provocative documentary
  31. DeathHamster Member

    How elronic...

    At 1:28:00-1:33:00 Marty talks about how he can't have friends or contacts without knowing that OSA is always watching. Meanwhile the cameras are rolling, and he forgets that he's talking to an expert ambush interviewer who's making a movie... *tap* with the soft question right to the vitals.

    I feel some sympathy for Marty there. He's obviously been rattled by the CoS team that just visited. His statement that he doesn't know what they mean about foster care is completely pie-faced, and he's ready to lash out at someone. 2*"Rue the Day" + "I didn't want to have to do it, but I'm going to have to pull the plug on this organization." And yet soon after, they pulled the plug on the court case.

    I don't like to guess, but I think they found his button right there, and came back to hammer on it.
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  32. I finally got to watch Louis movie yesterday. I must say, it wasnt what I expected. A dark and intense story of scientology. Ive watched most of Louis work, and his account of scientology is very different from what he has done before.

    Marty seems to get pissed off whenever he is asked about his own complicity for decades.
    Marty obviously has held back some really damning stuff-simply because IMHO, he would be implicated. I can understand him storming off in the scene where Louis and the pretend clams applauded to LRH.
    What I cant come to grips with is Martyr made it abundantly clear at the end he had the goods on the cult and would "take them down".
    Meh, Martyr can cry foul all he likes, coz he did much worse to many more for decades.

    1000 internetz to My Scientology Movie
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  33. sallysock Member

    I echo both of the comments above. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed watching. After all of these years, a part of me was like idk.
    Marty, though he knows "where the bodies are buried" seemed quite understandable. Yes, I want to know what he does so that justice (or at least an understanding of things} is clear and I hope he gets there.

    I am surprised by his disdain for the film. Really don't understand it.
    It was awesome to see Jeff Hawkins. So much respect for that man, he does not disappoint.
  34. The Wrong Guy Member

    Theroux’s cult classic | Morning Star

    A razor-sharp exposé of Scientology is a must-see says Alan Frank

    Film Review: Theroux turns sights on celebrity cult | The National

    Louis Theroux’s My Scientology Movie is the film Tom Cruise wouldn't want you to see | Daily Mail Online


    ...with Rathbun’s help, Theroux hires actors to show how Scientology’s top-brass operate behind closed doors. If accurate, it’s beyond bizarre.

    Of course, they say it’s not accurate. They claim to be an honourable organisation, outrageously maligned. A Miscavige of justice, if you will. Maybe that’s so. I certainly didn’t warm to Rathbun, whose sense of self-importance doesn’t seem to have diminished much since he was Miscavige’s right-hand man.

    But if the Scientologists are more sinned against than sinning, there’s precious little evidence here.

    Adult movies, baboons and shopping with David Soul: Louis Theroux's funniest moments | NZ Herald
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